55 watt hid kit in DEPO ACCORD FOGS
11-12-2009, 07:33 PM
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Mistuh DRiiVA
you should be fine with glass lenses, i know the plastic ones will definitly melt with 55watt but glass should be fine...maybe someone else can confirm this??
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11-12-2009, 09:46 PM
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Put your hand over a HID headlight vs a Halogen. You feel the heat from Halogen and you don't from HID. They use way way less watts vs Halogens. To Less watts = Less heat.
Also HID bulbs do not have a filament. So they do not create the heat a Halogen bulb does.
Also HID bulbs do not have a filament. So they do not create the heat a Halogen bulb does.
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11-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Xenon Considerations
# Xenon HID lights are a more recent invention, and have several benefits associated with them. They last much longer than the conventional halogen bulb. Though halogen is dependable, the bulb still uses a filament that will eventually burn out, while xenon bulbs use only gas and electricity, allowing them to last two or three times as long. The light produced by the xenon reaction is also considered bright than a similar halogen light, using a wider area of the light spectrum for a whiter light. Similar xenon bulbs also use less energy than a halogen equivalent.
Halogen Considerations
# While halogen bulbs does not have the lifespan or light intensity of xenon versions, they are still much more common, and it is easier and less expensive to replace halogen bulbs. There is also some controversy as to how much better the xenon bulb's light is, if at all, and different bulbs will have different effects. While halogen burns hot, around 3,200 degrees Kelvin, xenon bulbs tend to burn even hotter, up to 12,000 degrees Kelvin, and can pose more of a heat risk.
and
http://www.infobarrel.com/HID_Lighti...u_Need_to_Know
# Xenon HID lights are a more recent invention, and have several benefits associated with them. They last much longer than the conventional halogen bulb. Though halogen is dependable, the bulb still uses a filament that will eventually burn out, while xenon bulbs use only gas and electricity, allowing them to last two or three times as long. The light produced by the xenon reaction is also considered bright than a similar halogen light, using a wider area of the light spectrum for a whiter light. Similar xenon bulbs also use less energy than a halogen equivalent.
Halogen Considerations
# While halogen bulbs does not have the lifespan or light intensity of xenon versions, they are still much more common, and it is easier and less expensive to replace halogen bulbs. There is also some controversy as to how much better the xenon bulb's light is, if at all, and different bulbs will have different effects. While halogen burns hot, around 3,200 degrees Kelvin, xenon bulbs tend to burn even hotter, up to 12,000 degrees Kelvin, and can pose more of a heat risk.
and
http://www.infobarrel.com/HID_Lighti...u_Need_to_Know
11-12-2009, 09:51 PM
#14
KBPftmfw
I know Andy (Gerzand) personally and he definitely knows his shit about modding, especially when it comes to electrical and lights.
If you are getting the glass lenses you WILL be fine with the 55w kit. I run the 55w kit with 0 problems and have been since last March. Longest I have had them on continuously was 6 hours of night driving on the way to Myrtle Beach. No issues.
If you are getting plastic lenses go for the 35w kit.
If you are getting the glass lenses you WILL be fine with the 55w kit. I run the 55w kit with 0 problems and have been since last March. Longest I have had them on continuously was 6 hours of night driving on the way to Myrtle Beach. No issues.
If you are getting plastic lenses go for the 35w kit.
thanks for the info
11-12-2009, 09:57 PM
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Safety Car
Just a FYI as well. The Lexus guys use HID kits in their fogs on the ES and IS and GS. I am not 100% positive if those are glass or plastic but they do not have any issues with them and the housings are smaller than ours.
11-12-2009, 11:52 PM
#18
Racer
i got my glass Fogs from ebay and they just cracked and i do have 55w kit(99%) lol , im not sure what cause the cracs but i dont think some rocks from the road will crack both lenses and dont demage the bumper
11-12-2009, 11:52 PM
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Wow isnt a 55watt kit put in a halogen type housing gonna blind the living shit out of people? Geez I have seen 35 watt kits installed in a halogen housing its its pretty bad but the 55? Hope I never have to drive head on to you.
11-13-2009, 01:29 AM
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11-13-2009, 06:48 AM
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+1, it will also eventually burn the chrome right off of the reflective surface
. Here is a little experiment done by a fellow HIDplanet member. Notice that he used proper 50 watt DL-50 bulbs and not some after market iteration of them. Even though DL-50s run cooler than a regular 35 watt HID bulb at 50 watts but it still is enough to burn the chrome right off, I know this because I ended up getting the shown projector from him (3G TL projector) and upon inspection the chrome inside the reflective bowl had faded compared to normal 3G TL projector bowl. My suggestion? Dont do it.
Originally Posted by gearbox
yeah the low beam looked the same after the foreground mod. there was light extending further down, but it was hardly worth the effort it was so dim anyway to be useful. i dont think its worth doing. the hotspot will be near the top of the cutoff either way.
okay on with the testing. i fired up the full projector in lo beam mode with all three bulb setups and measured the temperatures. i let each one go to 10 mins, but after 8 mins there was no significant temp increase. also i measured the same spot on the projector bowl for all tests. i did a sweep of the whole outer bowl after 10 mins to see if i could get a max temp reading. these are below:
max temp readings after 10 mins run time on any random part of the bowl:
1. 35w ballast, 85122+ had 125F max temp
2. 50w ballast, 85122+ had 152F max temp
3. 50w ballast, DL50 had 136F max temp
I am also happy to report that my 50w kit ballast was still only slightly warm after running for the 10 mins, same as the matsushita i used. definately does not need any kind of heatsink like a boosted oem ballast might.
here is the station. clock has moving seconds display.
here is the spot where i took readings
here are the results
okay on with the testing. i fired up the full projector in lo beam mode with all three bulb setups and measured the temperatures. i let each one go to 10 mins, but after 8 mins there was no significant temp increase. also i measured the same spot on the projector bowl for all tests. i did a sweep of the whole outer bowl after 10 mins to see if i could get a max temp reading. these are below:
max temp readings after 10 mins run time on any random part of the bowl:
1. 35w ballast, 85122+ had 125F max temp
2. 50w ballast, 85122+ had 152F max temp
3. 50w ballast, DL50 had 136F max temp
I am also happy to report that my 50w kit ballast was still only slightly warm after running for the 10 mins, same as the matsushita i used. definately does not need any kind of heatsink like a boosted oem ballast might.
here is the station. clock has moving seconds display.
here is the spot where i took readings
here are the results
11-13-2009, 05:54 PM
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Wow that's a pretty good report JNC.
I have Philips 3000K on my pass TL with original Accord Foglamp. Now I have 3000K on my RL. But it's 35W. I think if you mod to 50W, i'll cause serious heat. It is do able but you are really pushing it. 35W is the safe bet.
I have Philips 3000K on my pass TL with original Accord Foglamp. Now I have 3000K on my RL. But it's 35W. I think if you mod to 50W, i'll cause serious heat. It is do able but you are really pushing it. 35W is the safe bet.
11-15-2009, 12:24 AM
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go with the 35w to play it safe. your going to def have heat issues with the housing. the light output on the 35w are def. good enough as is so you should be satisfied.
11-18-2009, 07:10 AM
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haha, just saw this thread. The proof is in the pudding guys....
Ive been running these depo fogs day in/day out for over a year and they are nearly always on when driving my car. The rules of caution outlines by some members here may apply to other brands of fogs, or on other cars.... but I hate when people talk about stuff they have NOT YET TRIED on the TL. If you go Depo and 55w, youll be fine. End of story.
Ive been running these depo fogs day in/day out for over a year and they are nearly always on when driving my car. The rules of caution outlines by some members here may apply to other brands of fogs, or on other cars.... but I hate when people talk about stuff they have NOT YET TRIED on the TL. If you go Depo and 55w, youll be fine. End of story.
11-18-2009, 11:41 AM
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Just got my foglights in, you dont have depo lights unless they acually say depo on the lense. so i'm guessing they are better quailty than the ebay fogs, they have glass lenses, I've see quite a few people on here that run 55 watt hid fogs, mostly on type s, so i'm guessing i shouldnt have a problem 
, buy the way i'm running DDM tuning Slim 55 watt 6000k in the fogs, with Kaixen 6000k low beams(in JNC V2'S) with Vled switchbacks.
, buy the way i'm running DDM tuning Slim 55 watt 6000k in the fogs, with Kaixen 6000k low beams(in JNC V2'S) with Vled switchbacks.
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