kosstick

Well.. yesterday night around 11:40 I am dropping my friend off at his house. i stop in the middle of the street for like 30 seconds say good bye. Once I shake his hand I see a BMW going into the other lane (which is oncoming traffic. the stress is basically two way one lane going each direction). The bmw is slowly coming i say good bye and I punch it to get in front.. this is all uphill and I my friend filled my car up with 2 extra gallons of gas then he should have (17 gallons...) I punch it and I hear him punch it. I punched it when he was at the middle of my car and thats where he stayed..

Bet the dude thought his german engineered car couldn't possibly lose to a Acura. I wish I saw his face. Btw to note he was driving in the wrong lane not me.

zen68

I'm not surprised. You shouldn't have any problems taking him down. The 540i is a better match for your car.

banelba

I wont try a 540i, or the new 535i. It's a bi-turbo

kosstick

I beat a 545 when i was stock...

ifirahse

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Anything above a 528i will shit on us.

kosstick

Not really. But I wouldn't expect you to know much...

zen68

I'd say it's a driver's race.

The 545i does 0-60 in 5.5 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.1 sec. This is comparable to the new TL-S (manual).

SatinSilverAV6

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I know your car stock is pretty fast but its definantly not going to beat a 545i. Those cars run mid-high 13's. Stock your car is no where near it. The guy wasn't all out racing you.

This guy on dragtimes.com ran a 13.6@103 with his 6AT steptronic 545i(not even the 6MT which should be faster). He is 100% stock as well.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-545i-Timeslip-10354.html

SatinSilverAV6

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After the comment you made about beating a 545i I wouldn't expect you to know much either.(especially since your only 18).

zen68

I agree. The guys on e60 forum consistently post similar time. However, I gave the OP benefits of the doubt since anything is possible in a street race.

kosstick

Reminds of me when people didn't believe types-09 beat the is350.. Me and Dr Brains both beat a 545... So call it what you will.. We beat a 545.

zen68

The 2009 TL-S beats the IS350 based on lap time. Straight line, not a chance.

Like I said, anything is possible in a street race.

kosstick

type-s09 is the user name the guy has a 04 tl 6spd? with just an intake at the time

iforyou

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types-09 ran a 13.9 in this 04 TL 6MT with an intake only. If we go by what you said before,

"The 545i does 0-60 in 5.5 sec, 1/4 mile in 14.1 sec. "

then as we can see it's not hard to believe he has beaten one before. But I agree, anything is possible in a street race...mid 13's..high 13's...not exactly a huge difference..reaction time alone is already a major factor.

zen68

Thanks for the clarification. I used to own a 04 TL (Manual with A-SPEC) so I know it's a quick car. However, I would bet my money on the IS350 with equal drivers.

zen68

That number was quoted from a publication (I tend to be conservative). However, I've seen guys on e60 forum post much faster time.

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21913&hl=

ifirahse

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Yes really.

I'm talking only about 2008 5-series (and the older 545i)...they'll beat us in a straight line stock for stock.

535i and 550i have similar performance numbers...550i 0-60 5.5, 535i 5.7, and we all know BMW underrates their cars.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx

iforyou

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Yea, I understand that.

kosstick

Are you fucking retarded? I just said me and Dr_brain510 took them. They are not that fast.. Maybe you have a limp Tl-S or you don't know how to drive yet. Over 100 + they will start to pull because of displacement. But Other than that I took it from 35 - 90ish MPH and i only had a half a car lead.

Get it?

zen68

There are two reasons:
1. The published time on BMW's website is based on 0-100Km/h which equals to 0-62 MPH so it's about .2 second slower than 0-60.
2. They post the average time of their runs not the best time. For example, the official number for the 550i is 5.4 sec. I've seen Car and Driver achieves 4.9 sec in recent test.

OK, enough with the internet racing. If you REALLY want to test the limit of your car, take it to the track. It's the most fun you can have with your pants on

ifirahse

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It's funny how you say a tl-s cant beat an auto g37 which is 5.5 0-60, but will take a 545/550i that can do 0-60 in less than that...

I'm not about to believe what some dumbass on the internet says just b/c he says it...the numbers are right there.

And we're both driving auto...no matter what you think, not much skill involved in driving an automatic.

ifirahse

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anyways let's get back on topic...kosstick did you beat the 545i with or without mods. and if you did it with mods, which mods did you have?

edit: nvm i read up top you were stock.

dr_brains510

I think there was another thread about a certain 5 series that I commented in and ppl were quick to say that there was no way something like that could have happened. When I was stock, I raced my buddy's 545i which is automatic as well. He didn't have any mods either. When we raced, I initially got the jump on him (I had a clean take off) and then just kept going. I hit somewhere between 80-90mph and I stopped. I was about a half a car ahead. I know if we kept going, he would definitely have taken me. Now with all my mods, I take him even harder. I think he has some mods but don't know which ones. Point is, that anything can happen (same message we stated in the other G37 thread). So before ppl come in and say there is no way it couldn't have happened b/c the times don't make sense, they really don't know first hand what certain cars can do if you put the right driver in them. I'm not saying my car can beat every 545i or 535i or whatever. Given MY scenario, it did. I'm sure if it was a different driver the results would have been different (I might have lost by a wide margin, won by a wide margin etc.)

kosstick

But you did not answer my question... Are you fucking retarded?

ifirahse

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you've got PM

FiveLiterCheater

Can't see it happening unless its a 6MT. Those bimmers have crazy top end

And whats all the fighting about, both of you sound like whiney little bitches. Learn how the fuckin drive before you brag about drag racing.

ifirahse

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i just want everyone to know that kosstick is a god and he can kick my ass because he's crazy in the sTREetz.

kossstick, you got my number obviously, so anytime you wanna call me again on a private number cussing me out please do it after 9pm so my minutes aren't wasted.

FiveLiterCheater

You want him to call you late and talk dirty?

This thread is getting pretty gay, you two need to meat up in a hotel or something.

Eoanou

Guys you have to note that most BMW 1/4mile times don't mean anything in a roll race.

Why you ask? Because BMWs are RWD and their suspension is tuned for maximum grip when launching. Most BMWs out preform in a quarter mile race because they launch really well. Take for example an E46 325i, it only has 184hp and 181tq and weighs 3200lbs, but yet it pulls low 15sec. The new Civic Si pulls the same quarter mile time, weighs less and has 197hp. In a quarter mile race they're even, but when you run from a roll and Si will eat the E46 325i without a problem.

The same applies in this context with the 545i, the magazine times of 14.1 are accurate but if we're racing from a roll the TL performs like a low 14 second car as well, not the mid 14s car everyone makes it to be.

Just to sum up, in case there is confusion. Quarter mile times don't mean much in the scope of racing from a roll. So stop referencing them within this context.

dr_brains510

Nicely put

ifirahse

iTrader: (6)

^ So basically what he's saying is that from a dig, the bimmers we're talking about can take us, but from a roll it's completely even?

In my G37 thread I also posted that from a roll I could most probably take him, especially with my future bolt-ons, but not from a dig.

That sounds about right. Thank you Eoanou for making the most sense in this thread.

dr_brains510

^^^ it would be clearer if you just raced both from a dig and a roll and see where you get. The G37 would prolly win from a dig but I only raced one from a roll so I wouldn't know if you could take him or not.

Mike

mellow out or you're getting a vacation.

SatinSilverAV6

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It is true that 1/4 mile times aren't going to give you an accurate description of how a roll race would end up but what is a good indication of that is trap speed. The 545i traps around 103MPH. Dr.Brains and kossick are not trapping near that. Also don't forget power/weight and torque/weight ratio where the Bimmer beats the TL-S in those categories. Plus the 545i doesn't run 14.1. It runs 13.6 in 6at form.

trancemission

kosstick your time with us just ended

TeknoKing

Woo, so much anger... and why? RWD 50%/50% distribution BMW in a straight line vs a TL-S on an actual drag strip... stock vs stock... Acura has no chance.
Now, if you implement same versus on an a street application, a good experienced driver will prevail. 535i are not that fast, I can definitely keep up with them in my 08TL-S, but then again, I have enough experience to put max @ the wheel when it counts.

P.S. Please don't street race, go to the track or an abandoned road.

ifirahse

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adrian_04tl

guys chill... i may not know much about cars, power, torque, and numbers but... yeah I AM STUPID enought to find out weather i loose or win... i drive an 04 6MT and ill tell you ive taken out a 545i on the street. (barely though, im stock) know what i do know is what im capable of with my car (vsa off! lmas) i can honestly say i do way too much street racing, from civics to chargers srt (havent gone head witha 4 wheel drive turbo (sti, or evo) but as soon as i get a chance i will. ill definetly let you knoe the outcome too... know dont be so fast to judge on the outcome. lots of morrons outhere understimeate our car, i think its quite fast. LIKE MANY OF YOU HAVE SAID, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE ON A STREET RACE!!! I GOT BEAT BY A FREAKIN FORD RANGER!!! DONT KNOW HOW THE HELL THAT HAPPENNED BUT IT DID!!! so yeah i do believe (dependng on the skill of the drivers and 6 MT we can keep up with cars that are (on paper) faster....

F23A4

Thank you Mike; you beat me to it.

F23A4

All other factors being equal, the 545i should take down a 3G 6MT but the margin is negligible.

That said, take it to the track. I'm a little tired of reading about adolescents (teen and young adult) t-boning families in minivans just to fulfill a need for speed that could have easily been accomplished within the safe environs of a dragstrip.