3G values when the 4G TL is released??

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Old 01-20-2008 | 06:52 PM
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3G values when the 4G TL is released??

I'm in the market for a 06-07 low mileage TL. I'm not in any hurry and just wanted to know what you guys think will happen with the 3G prices when the 09 is released. These dealers are asking so much for a good used TL when you could buy a brand new 08 for a few $K more.

Any thoughts on when the 09 will hit the dealers?

This is a great website and I can't wait to get a TL. My first post, thanks for any input.
Old 01-20-2008 | 06:56 PM
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I am sure they will have an effect, but it won't be super dramatic.

What prices are you seeing with what trim level? (base, type-s, aspec, navi)
Old 01-20-2008 | 07:10 PM
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I'm looking mainly at the base, but would consider the others if I could get a deal on them. The local dealer wanted $31,990 for a 07 TL navi. I've seen posts of guys getting 08 TL-S for that price.
Old 01-20-2008 | 08:11 PM
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What are you hoping to pay for a used 06?
Old 01-20-2008 | 08:20 PM
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The 3G prices will inevitably take a hit once the 4G is released as is always the case.

Its also possible that demand for the 3G will continue if the 4G disappoints all our expectations, here's hoping that Acura don't drop the ball
Old 01-20-2008 | 08:57 PM
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i think they'll actually increase. You heard it here first.
Old 01-20-2008 | 09:10 PM
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It was also a big concern for me when I bought my 06 TL last year.
I was thinking 2002-2003 2G TL now will sell for about 14-17K may be, which I think is still pretty good, considering the dramatic model change etc for the 3G.
Even look at this car: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/car/543306862.html
(this is exceptionally low mileage)

Did I make a fair comparison between 2g and 3g & 3g and 4g, as far as concerning depreciation?
Old 01-20-2008 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by clshaw71
I'm looking mainly at the base, but would consider the others if I could get a deal on them. The local dealer wanted $31,990 for a 07 TL navi. I've seen posts of guys getting 08 TL-S for that price.
You have to remember that most of the used ones at that price include the extended warranty.

Also, the prices some of these guys quote are too good to be true. When I bought my 05 I had guys claiming stupid low prices. You can either believe them to be true, or believe them not to be. Frankly I think most of them are either full of shit, or they live in an area where these cars dont move. Chicago isn't one of those places.

The reason I bought a brand new 2005 TL Aspec/Navi was because the 2004 used models were within $1k of a new one, all because of the extended warranty mark up.
Old 01-20-2008 | 09:35 PM
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I think when guys are buying new TL's in the $31-$32K range....a 06 w/ average miles should be around 25K-26K. I know nada and kbb has them listed for more. But I'm looking at the numbers. If I pay 28K-30K like most people are asking, I should just get a brand new one. However, I just don't like the hit of driving a new car off the lot.

Handy911...If you don't mind me asking....can you give me the details of your 06 purchase last yr????
Old 01-20-2008 | 09:40 PM
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i think they'll actually increase. You heard it here first.
Me too... the 09's don't look too promising, even though we only see a little at the moment...
Old 01-20-2008 | 10:18 PM
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I'll wait till 2010 models come out.
Old 01-21-2008 | 12:56 AM
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I'll wait till 2010 models come out.
but then the 2011 models will come out.
Old 01-21-2008 | 09:07 AM
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This is why I lease. I would only be affected by this if I decided to trade my car in early.
Old 01-21-2008 | 09:40 AM
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the way the aftermarket is get a 3g, cuz you can boost it, 4g parts wont ever be available, probably just an intake
Old 01-21-2008 | 11:02 AM
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This is why I lease. I would only be affected by this if I decided to trade my car in early.
Hmmm, your making leasing sound like your not loosing money when in fact, you are loosing FAR more than a buyer would. I put $6K down on my 2004 TL. My payments were only $100 more per month than the Lease would have been ($100 * 48 months = $4,800). If you add those two initial costs together, you can see that I paid $10,800 more than you did BUT...... The car is currently worth $20K (AT/NAVI w/45K miles) so... at the end of your four year lease you have NADA, ZIP, SQUAT, etc Whereas I have $10K in equity I could use to put down on the next car. Or I can drive my car for FREE for over three more years (at which time it "may" be only worth $10K). So, in the end, you have a lease and have the chance to move to another car at the end of your lease but all buyers have those same options AT AMY TIME (not just end of lease) and those same buyers HAVE EQUITY in their cars and .... In short, unless you can write off 100% of your lease costs to YOUR OWN business, a lease is NOT a smart decision IMHO.

For the OP - Based on my calculations, the 2004 TL will be worth between $16K and $17K at the end of 2008 (when the 2009 models offically come out). A year later, this same car should be worth between $12K and $13K. Another year later, maybe $10K (as stated in this post).
Old 01-21-2008 | 11:41 AM
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Hmmm, your making leasing sound like your not loosing money when in fact, you are loosing FAR more than a buyer would. I put $6K down on my 2004 TL. My payments were only $100 more per month than the Lease would have been ($100 * 48 months = $4,800). If you add those two initial costs together, you can see that I paid $10,800 more than you did BUT...... The car is currently worth $20K (AT/NAVI w/45K miles) so... at the end of your four year lease you have NADA, ZIP, SQUAT, etc Whereas I have $10K in equity I could use to put down on the next car. Or I can drive my car for FREE for over three more years (at which time it "may" be only worth $10K). So, in the end, you have a lease and have the chance to move to another car at the end of your lease but all buyers have those same options AT AMY TIME (not just end of lease) and those same buyers HAVE EQUITY in their cars and .... In short, unless you can write off 100% of your lease costs to YOUR OWN business, a lease is NOT a smart decision IMHO.

For the OP - Based on my calculations, the 2004 TL will be worth between $16K and $17K at the end of 2008 (when the 2009 models offically come out). A year later, this same car should be worth between $12K and $13K. Another year later, maybe $10K (as stated in this post).
I have a problem with commitment. I'm willing to pay a little more and know that I'll have a new car every 3 years. No worrying about reselling, what the 09 will do to the value, temptations to mod the car ...

I understand where youre coming from and I did more then enough research to know that financing was not for me.
Old 01-21-2008 | 11:50 AM
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the way the aftermarket is get a 3g, cuz you can boost it, 4g parts wont ever be available, probably just an intake
what??? you don't think they will do like what they did with the headers and cast the f'in intake and intake manifold to the block too???
Old 01-21-2008 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LyfeIs
I have a problem with commitment. I'm willing to pay a little more and know that I'll have a new car every 3 years. No worrying about reselling, what the 09 will do to the value, temptations to mod the car ...

I understand where youre coming from and I did more then enough research to know that financing was not for me.
I know that some people choose the lifestyle of leasing and have the privilege of having a new car every 3 year or so. Leasing can only be more beneficial, if your car depreciates fast.

I would probably lease a Mercedez or Audi. But, TL is not something I would lease, since 2nd hand selling price will hold up better than most cars.

Tho, people say that after 3-4 years, cars will eventually have more problems and it eventually costs the owner more too.

So, it depends on so many factors, whether or not you should lease.
Old 01-21-2008 | 02:44 PM
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They will go down because the dealers will get factory incentives to dump the 3G inventory.
Old 01-21-2008 | 05:34 PM
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Hmmm, your making leasing sound like your not loosing money when in fact, you are loosing FAR more than a buyer would..........
House I'll buy, but I'll never buy another new vehicle in my life time unless it's an old used winter beater.
Old 01-21-2008 | 06:02 PM
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Typically the used market takes a hit for 6mo or so when a new body style is released. Prices recover somewhat after the rush of early adopters runs out. However you're always going to get less for a car that isn't the current body style.

So I you're looking to pick up a used 3g, I'd wait until 2-3 mo after the 4g is released. Probably going to be about as depressed as it gets at that point.
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House I'll buy, but I'll never buy another new vehicle in my life time unless it's an old used winter beater.
I can understand that some are willing to "pay for the privilege" of driving a new car every three years. That is their option. I just get a bit tired of all the lease guys trying (and failing) to prove that their lease is actually saving them money when in fact, such a privilege does induce a cost above owning.
Old 01-21-2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by clshaw71
I'm in the market for a 06-07 low mileage TL. I'm not in any hurry and just wanted to know what you guys think will happen with the 3G prices when the 09 is released. These dealers are asking so much for a good used TL when you could buy a brand new 08 for a few $K more.

Any thoughts on when the 09 will hit the dealers?

This is a great website and I can't wait to get a TL. My first post, thanks for any input.
2007 Acura TL Type-S High Performance Tire - Asking US$ 31,000

Exterior: Carbon Bronze Pearl

Interior: Ebony Leather

First owner. Clear Title

Warranty: Full Factory Warranty. 4-year/50K factory warranty
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Old 01-21-2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by georgegiorgio
2007 Acura TL Type-S High Performance Tire - Asking US$ 31,000

Exterior: Carbon Bronze Pearl

Interior: Ebony Leather

First owner. Clear Title

Warranty: Full Factory Warranty. 4-year/50K factory warranty
Powertrain Warranty. 6-year/70K factory warranty

Mileage: 7,700

Transmission: Automatic

-In-dash Navigation system
-Voice activated controls
-Bluetooth connectivity
-Automatic transmission (with manual mode) and paddle shifter
-6 CD changer with great sound system
- Brembo Brakes
All the bells and whistles!

I bought this car in July 2007 and need to sell this car right now!
Asking US$ 31,000.
This is a great deal for you.
This car has always been garaged. No accident. Great condition.
This is just as good as buying a "certified pre-owned" Acura just without paying the premium at the dealership.

Please contact Miss Connie if interested. I will be happy to show it anytime.
Thank you.

Miss Connie
conniebox@hotmail.com
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Old 01-21-2008 | 09:52 PM
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Old 01-22-2008 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by clshaw71
I think when guys are buying new TL's in the $31-$32K range....a 06 w/ average miles should be around 25K-26K. I know nada and kbb has them listed for more. But I'm looking at the numbers. If I pay 28K-30K like most people are asking, I should just get a brand new one. However, I just don't like the hit of driving a new car off the lot.

Handy911...If you don't mind me asking....can you give me the details of your 06 purchase last yr????
Hei, no problem, I bought mine last month, with 21K miles for $28.7K. I know, it's overpriced.
Mine is NBP. I was offered to get a green color for $1K cheaper. It's certified by dealer. You should probably expect 27-28K retail or 25-26 private party.

I've heard people say that when you buy a new car, drive out of the dealer, you've basically lost 2K right there for depreciation. But still, I wasn't aware that so many people can get a new one for 31-32K. I thought it was more like 33-34K.

Ahh who cares, I am happy with the car, and plan to keep it for a long time anyways.
Old 01-22-2008 | 02:55 AM
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Hey what up. I just bought my 06 NBP on parchment w/ nav and 18.8k miles for $26k. Hope that helps somewhat.
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