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03-23-2018 | 10:26 AM
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03-23-2018 | 10:27 AM
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03-23-2018 | 11:07 AM
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There's no point just upgrading the x-pipe. Might as well get a whole exhaust. If money is tight, the invidia exhaust is a good cheap solution. If money is no object, check out the motordyne shockwave exhaust. I hear it sounds like God is talking to you, it sounds so good.
Same with the intake. If dynos are to be believed, most any air intake seems to open up an additional 15hp/15lbft. Whatever the gains are, the intake dynos show power gained throughout the entire rpm range.
Personally, I'm looking at the new aem intake system. They're more of a SRI system, but with nice insulating covers for the filters. My only reason for leaning towards these is I don't have to take my bumper off. Not that I can't... But I'd rather leave shit as original as possible. Dynos seem to indicate similar gains as true CAIs.
03-23-2018 | 11:14 AM
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didn't we know another guy that was afraid to take his bumper off?
then watched while majofo stooped his girl
then ran off and got a real job and forget about we?
then watched while majofo stooped his girl
then ran off and got a real job and forget about we?
03-23-2018 | 11:20 AM
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Well... Any stock exhaust and intake is restrictive. The Jizzmo exhaust is a bit more free flowing than the regular 370z exhaust, but, gains can still be had with an aftermarket exhaust. The problem with the factory Nismo exhaust- even though it's made by HKS, its way too quiet.
There's no point just upgrading the x-pipe. Might as well get a whole exhaust. If money is tight, the invidia exhaust is a good cheap solution. If money is no object, check out the motordyne shockwave exhaust. I hear it sounds like God is talking to you, it sounds so good.
Same with the intake. If dynos are to be believed, most any air intake seems to open up an additional 15hp/15lbft. Whatever the gains are, the intake dynos show power gained throughout the entire rpm range.
Personally, I'm looking at the new aem intake system. They're more of a SRI system, but with nice insulating covers for the filters. My only reason for leaning towards these is I don't have to take my bumper off. Not that I can't... But I'd rather leave shit as original as possible. Dynos seem to indicate similar gains as true CAIs.
There's no point just upgrading the x-pipe. Might as well get a whole exhaust. If money is tight, the invidia exhaust is a good cheap solution. If money is no object, check out the motordyne shockwave exhaust. I hear it sounds like God is talking to you, it sounds so good.
Same with the intake. If dynos are to be believed, most any air intake seems to open up an additional 15hp/15lbft. Whatever the gains are, the intake dynos show power gained throughout the entire rpm range.
Personally, I'm looking at the new aem intake system. They're more of a SRI system, but with nice insulating covers for the filters. My only reason for leaning towards these is I don't have to take my bumper off. Not that I can't... But I'd rather leave shit as original as possible. Dynos seem to indicate similar gains as true CAIs.
As for SRI vs CAI style, I figure it matters less for here and there spirited driving in Canada. Weather's colder on average so as long as it's shielded it should be good.
On the MS3 in summer CAI is beneficial because the engine bay gets stupid hot (1st gen MS3 gets heatsoaked real quick) but in winter a lot of people remove a pipe from the 3 parts CAI to turn it into a SRI for faster engine warmup.
03-23-2018 | 11:22 AM
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It was fucking stupid. You think it's gonna take 15 minutes, turns out to be a 1 hour deal cause you're working blind. So much for time saving
03-23-2018 | 12:21 PM
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After taking my TL bumper off 8639275 times, I swear, nothing is like it originally was. I mean, the fucker still lines up and stays in place, but the plastic push clips are half mangled, and I'm pretty sure on one or two occasions I had an extra bolt remaining afterwards
I do not want to follow suit with the nissan
03-23-2018 | 12:24 PM
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Fair on the exhaust being expensive, but intake is probably cheaper for similar gains anyway. I was just curious is NISMO meant slightly better performance than base. I don't understand why they made it quiet though. :S
As for SRI vs CAI style, I figure it matters less for here and there spirited driving in Canada. Weather's colder on average so as long as it's shielded it should be good.
On the MS3 in summer CAI is beneficial because the engine bay gets stupid hot (1st gen MS3 gets heatsoaked real quick) but in winter a lot of people remove a pipe from the 3 parts CAI to turn it into a SRI for faster engine warmup.
As for SRI vs CAI style, I figure it matters less for here and there spirited driving in Canada. Weather's colder on average so as long as it's shielded it should be good.
On the MS3 in summer CAI is beneficial because the engine bay gets stupid hot (1st gen MS3 gets heatsoaked real quick) but in winter a lot of people remove a pipe from the 3 parts CAI to turn it into a SRI for faster engine warmup.
I'm looking to source a gently used Ark exhaust, or Motordyne exhaust. They're fucking sexy, have no drone issues due to the helmholtz tubes (or whatever they're called), and are true dual exhausts, front to back.
03-23-2018 | 12:26 PM
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03-23-2018 | 12:46 PM
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Intake isn't overly cheap. The true CAIs go for around $500 US. The AEM one is a bit cheaper, at like $380 US. An invidia exhaust can be had for about $800 US.
I'm looking to source a gently used Ark exhaust, or Motordyne exhaust. They're fucking sexy, have no drone issues due to the helmholtz tubes (or whatever they're called), and are true dual exhausts, front to back.
Anyway, even the cheapest intakes are fine as long as you got a good filter on it. Doesn't get pressure and heat like exhaust side so as long as the welds aren't absolute shite, the biggest issue with the cheap stuff is fitment usually. No wonder it's the first mod every Civic owners does.
03-23-2018 | 12:56 PM
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Yes, the AEM is more of a SRI, for $380. Just showing you what this shit goes for. And sure any intake gets heat soak. those shields are definitely required. I don't trust any cheap eBay shit either. Sure it looks ok... how big are the gaps in the filter though? Some fly by night shit... fuck that. Even the tube design has an effect on how laminar the air flow is going through it.
03-23-2018 | 01:13 PM
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Yes, the AEM is more of a SRI, for $380. Just showing you what this shit goes for. And sure any intake gets heat soak. those shields are definitely required. I don't trust any cheap eBay shit either. Sure it looks ok... how big are the gaps in the filter though? Some fly by night shit... fuck that. Even the tube design has an effect on how laminar the air flow is going through it.
As for tube design... it's almost a straight line man. Don't buy in that as seen on TV salesman bullshit about having the perfect mandrel bend and some rifling inside the pipe.
And yeah with how the VQ is designed and how far back you need to go as you said any intake's gonna get soaked eventually. It was problematic also on the 350z, even on the VQ35DE with only one TB.
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03-23-2018 | 01:50 PM
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Gap in the filter? You don't use an eBay filter ever, you just swap it for a K&N.
As for tube design... it's almost a straight line man. Don't buy in that as seen on TV salesman bullshit about having the perfect mandrel bend and some rifling inside the pipe.
And yeah with how the VQ is designed and how far back you need to go as you said any intake's gonna get soaked eventually. It was problematic also on the 350z, even on the VQ35DE with only one TB.
As for tube design... it's almost a straight line man. Don't buy in that as seen on TV salesman bullshit about having the perfect mandrel bend and some rifling inside the pipe.
And yeah with how the VQ is designed and how far back you need to go as you said any intake's gonna get soaked eventually. It was problematic also on the 350z, even on the VQ35DE with only one TB.
gaps in air filter... I meant how porous is their filter? If you're already buying quality air filters, why not spend the 60 bucks more on quality tubing? I guess difference of ideologies...
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