So let me get this straight.
I just got an email from Acura announcing the 2007 TL-S 6MT with an MSRP of $38,325 and destination $670 = $38,995. It comes with 28 extra HP but only 17 inch wheels! If I want to get the 18 inch chrome look wheels that came with my A-Spec package, that is another $2200. Not to mention the rear and side underbody kits are not included and run $351 and $324 respectively (installation not included!) They don’t even offer a front underbody kit (maybe that is included...I sure hope so at this price). So the grand total MSRP comes to $41,870 not including installation of the wheels and underbody kit. You’d be lucky to get out of the door for $45,000 with a great deal including tax, license and installation. Is Acura nuts? I paid $37,750 including installation for my 2004 TL 6MT A-Spec. I know prices have increased in 2 ½ years but $4120 for 28 extra HP. I’ll stick with what I got thank you very much.

 

They won't sell many Type-S TL's...they're getting greedy with the success of the TL and think we're willing to pay $4K for a few extra HP.......NOT ME!!

 

07 TL-S should have 18" A-Spec wheels and tires standard for that price.

 

Or atleast make it AWD....= /

Oh well, my next car will be the G35 coupe when i'm 21

 

I expect to see Acura lose market share with the 2007 TL simply because they are turning away from a segment of buyers which will force many of them to seek automotive satisfaction elsewhere.

I'm talking about those of us who prefer manual transmissions.. especially with a performance sedan (or performance anything). I suspect many will not be happy with Acura's decision to discontinue the manual in the "base" TL and only make it available on a car costing a bit more. Look for these people to flee to the competitors.

Makes you wonder what were they thinking.

 

Beautiful car JJaber, the 6Speed TL's smoke 'em though, trust me haha I was supposed to get the 350Z or the G35 but I opted for the TL due to the G's and Z's RWD and I dont know about your town but mine is an AWD fanclub to the point that its sickening, people buy Range Rovers cause theyre AWD. In NJ it snows maybe 2 times a year and most of the time lightly and rain is decent, the cars here are all AWD or RWD, with a few scattered FWD's.

 

I love the complainers, people say that Acura is not prestigious, yet people will buy cars with similar or LESS features for 10K more. Then Acura adds more features, raises the price to add to their prestige and people bitch that Acura is no longer a bargain. Acura can't make everyone happy. People wanted turn signal mirrors, Acura added them, now there are people saying, too many lights on the car! I guarantee you, this car will sell like hot cakes.

 

couldnt of said it better

 

You have to have something to back up the price increase though, thats what the problem is. Anyway you look at it, the Type-S is still just a hooked up TL. Its still FWD, its still going to have torque steer and all of the other side effects of a high powered FWD car. I'm sure everyone would be selling thier TL right now if the Type-S had SH-AWD and more than 300hp.

 

This car will sell like your mom's hot cakes...anybody who will spend 45k on a sport sedan wants RWD with their 6MT. The the 2007 G35 and 335i 6MT sedans will outsell the TL-S 10 to 1.

 

The 2007 G35 has got to be one of the ugliest Luxury sedans i've ever seen. It's funny because the 2006 G35 is amazing. i agree with SBTL though.

 

I actually agree with cTLgo. They won't have problems selling. You don't want one? Don't buy one.

I don't want RWD unless it is my second car because I live in NY and I need FWD/AWD. The 335i will sell well, so will the G. But the market is so large, there is no way that everyone will be satisified with those.

In a few months, the Type-S will be selling close to invoice, which should be a couple of grand less. I would look at it very seriously in the $35-36K range. Personal choice.

 

i hear that

 

FWD, RWD, AWD... the type of drive is not all there is to the car..

I think the price of the TL-S is not that outrageous considering the MSRP of my 06 TL 6MT+navi was 35k. You get extra 28hp, quat exhaust, backup camera, new audio system (i mean mp3 playback and aux input), new leather seats, 3spoke steering wheel, MID control on the steering wheel, etc, etc, etc for 3k more

Ok, G35 is RWD with 300+ hp... so what???

 

Cannot agree with you on your last statement. 300HP+ with SH-AWD... that's gotta put at least 10k more to the 07 TL-S.

 

well that goes without saying. we are all mad because its a TL with everything we hoped it would have on it. you cant say its not worth it because its FWD... Some people really dont give a shit...

 

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Oh man, we got some takers to this thread. If only the 16 guest would quit being such vaginas we could get their input...

 

I should say that personally I like the new '07 TL-S but not everything about it. I don't like the red instrument and accessory lights. And I don't like the turn signals on the outside mirrors. I have never liked clear or semi-clear tail light covers. On the positive side, I do like the wheels. Also I love the fact they added more cubic inches under the hood for increased horsepower and more importantly.. torque.

So yes, I do like the new TL-S. I hope it does well in its market.

 

So you say you agree with cTLgo...but then conclude that you would look at it very seriously in the $35-36K range, which is exactly what I'm saying, that compared to my 2004 TL 6MT A-Spec, the 2007 TL-S is overpriced at anywhere near MSRP. So in actuality, you really agree with me!

 

Well, if that's the only way to get an MT then I'm out. Too much cheddar for this boy to justify on a car.

 

People are going to think I paid you to say that...

Need I say more?

 

wow trance.. so right...

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I think I mentioned this already, but the manual market is way smaller compared to auto.

I pulled some data from JDPower's 2006 IQS (2006 model year vehicles) and it shows that in the industry,
8% - Manual
89%- Auto
3% - CVT
and for Acura,
11% - Manual
89% - Auto
0% - CVT

So, why should Acura worry too much abt the manual market when the majority of the consumers lean toward auto? However I do agree that the 4k difference does not justify (in my opinion) the minor change in performance and features.

 

yeah quite a few

but ya know, 38K is up there. Esp since I got mine for 31.

I dont have any doubts that they will sell. I just hope that acura comes through with an SH-AWD model like we are all talking about in 09. If not then this may be my last one.

 

ill make sure to take good care of her for you... :shift:

 

SBTL if its okay with you, I think Ill make this the official MSRP thread, I want to change the title to take "is acura nuts??" out...

 

that would be me for example , i think that this is a performance SEDAN so fwd is actually nice (awd better ) for shit weather , if u want a real fast performance car at this price buy a fricking mustang put a supercharger and whatever u can in it and there u go have fun racing it , tl is not meant for racing its a fricking family sedan - nice big comfy luxurious and sure as hell beautifull so people should not say that tls will not sell b/c it had just a few lausy hp less then a g35 , shit even if g35 had 60hp more i would not be interested


ANYONE AGRRE WITH ME?

 

You guys are crying about price? Yeah whatever. We Canadians pay 8 thousand dollars more than we should have to. TL starts at 33 for you, for us it starts at 40, instead of 36 it should. So 38? Pft. That's exactly 50 grand Canadian, when 50 grand, is what WE should be paying for the RL.

Stop crying.

 

Heh...
Did YOU pay for your car Mr. 19 year old with a $50G CAD TL?

Sorry, couldn't resist...

 

I actually think the '07 TL w/Nav is hard to justify with a MSRP of $36,125, not the '07 TL-S with a MSRP of $38,325. For $2200 the TL-S adds a lot of stuff over and above the base model. I suspect that a similarly equipped '07 G35 RWD will be somewhat more expensive than the TL-S (not sure, just a guess). For me it would be a close call - the handling advantages of RWD (in good weather only) against the superior styling of the TL-S...

 

The year I bought my TL, the dealer was averaging 25-27% manuals in inventory. That has diminished and I believe your 11% figure is pretty darned close today for the Acura.

However I firmly believe, as do most of the "professional" car magazine writers and editors, that any car which tries to paint itself, sell itself, as a serious performance sedan MUST be either available with a manual, or assemble ONLY with a manual.. as in the case of the Cadillac CTS-V. Such cars lose their aura of performance, as well as actual performance, when only an automatic is offered. Acura pushes things with the TL because it is a FWD platform. At least the TL is among the best FWD sedans (and probably the best FWD performance sedan) you can buy.

I just hate to see a really good thing take a few steps down on the market ladder. The new TL-S looks really good on paper. Should be interesting to see how it does when the road tests start coming in.

 

I forgot Canada existed Hahaha jk. But yea you guys dont have it too well.

 

It's ok by me...but you better check with cTLgo's mom...the one who makes the hotcakes.

 

How any 19 year old can afford a new TL is a beyond me. Guess if you living at home and have no bills, free room and board or just wealthy parents no student loans or whatever. Gone are the days of driving Mom and Dad's old hand me down.

Back on topic, I think the TL-S will sell well with the paddle shifters, extra HP and etc. AWD would have helped but it would have been over $40K easily.

 

many people will pay this, think of how many people bought the sc for around 6k (including installation; correct me if i am wrong for the total price). the sc is only a 50hp boost and comes with many potential problems. a tls is only 4k more, comes with a lot of extra goodies and is as problem free as a stock non s/c'ed car because it is a naturally asperated car.

dont get me wrong tho, there is a few things i do not like about the tls

 

I love how some people say "I'm not paying $4,000 for just 28 hp!"

Sounds like some posters haven't done their homework on what all is offered exclusively on the TL-S...

 

cant wait to see one on the road!

 

I personally think its priced reasonably. A little more than the standard model and out of the RL's range.. The Type-S isn't for everyone, its more or less for enthusiasts (those who are willing to pay more for glamour and exclusivity)

 

i think the tl-s should at least come with standard 18" wheels. and that much hp + torque on the front wheel?? how will it handle ??

 

Agreed, the complainers in this thread are amusing to say the least.