Mindcrime

I just noticed on the Acura site that they have info for the 05 TL. Pricing starts at $32,900 plus $570 shipping which I believe is a few hundred over the 04 model. Other than that I haven't noticed any changes.





Mindcrime, cTLgo, Pro Street, bfogarty, DMZ, GQS, tasdisr, bmduncan, thanks for the helps.

EDIT by 3G MOD rets



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04 3.2 4dr Sedan 5AT 32,650 (MSRP) 29,755 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 5AT 32,900 (MSRP) 29,982 (Invoice)

04 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT 32,650 (MSRP) 29,755 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT 32,900 (MSRP) 29,982 (Invoice)

04 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT HPT 32,850 (MSRP) 29,937 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT HPT 33,100 (MSRP) 30,164 (Invoice)

04 3.2 4dr Sedan 5AT Navi 34,650 (MSRP) 31,575 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 5AT Navi 34,900 (MSRP) 31,803 (Invoice)

04 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT Navi 34,650 (MSRP) 31,575 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT Navi 34,900 (MSRP) 31,803(Invoice)

04 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT Navi HPT 34,850 (MSRP) 31,758 (Invoice)
05 3.2 4dr Sedan 6MT Navi HPT 35,100 (MSRP) 31,985(Invoice)

04 $545 (Destination Charge)
05 $570

So, 05 MSRP is only $250 more. Destination Charge is $25 up.






New 17" wheel as an option $1,796






New change






New feature

1. NO Auto-On/Off Headlights (SPEC doesn't say, but the safety feature lists it; typo??)
   
   
2. Back-Up Sensor: Two styles to choose from: regular* or new flat style
   
   
3. Michelin tires for Navi model (Michelin Pilot HX MXM4) (Some non-Navi 05TLs come with MXM4, too... it seems that all later 05TLs may get Michelins instead of Bridgestones)
   
   
4. • Navi DVD disc: 3.40A
   • inner wiper/rubber isn't felted
   
   
5. 3 stitched sections to the front seat bottoms
   
   
6. Check Fuel Cap message on MID
   
   
7. More... and more...

Official 2005 TL change?



The first 11 05TLers at TL.ACURAZINE.COM

1. The first 05TL at A-TL.com by JBM on 9/25/04
   
   
2. Just bought 05 AT w/Navi!!! by y2jdmbfan on 9/26/04
   
   
3. Salesman just called me at work - 05 by tkedat on 9/30/04
   
   
4. Picked up my 05TL by Treblig on 9/30/04
   
   
5. New TL (Auto w/Nav) Owner Experience (Positive) by jphoya91 on 9/30/04
   
   
6. '05 ABP/6spd/Nav in the house!! (w/ Pics) by azobairi on 10/01/04
   
   
7. Just moved from TSX to TL (mini review) by TheDude on 10/01/04
   
   
8. Took delivery of 05TL 6MT by grimpeur on 10/01/04
   
   
9. What an amazing car! My 05TL! by 05TL on 10/02/04
   
   
10. First 05, 6spd Nav in WA/OR by alpine97tt on 10/03/04
    
    
11. New Acura TL SUV/Truck side-impact results posted by richmojm on 10/05/04 (could be the lowest VIN so far)

cM3go

um... is it me or did the price go down, at least the MSRP... wasn't it 33195 for non nav and 35195 for nav?!?!?! but destination was cheaper

Mindcrime

I think it was $33,195 with destination, at least that is what my car was. I believe it was around $32,695 for the car itself.

cM3go

oh yeah you're right... stupid me

cM3go

so the price went up $275

cM3go

here are the NEW new wheels



then they have the old A-spec wheels in Silver and in Chrome

Mindcrime

Think I like the regular ones better.

cM3go

something else that is new

Mindcrime

hmm, interesting...must be a swtich to turn off passenger airbag.

cM3go

actually i believe its the indicator light that the passenger airbag is deactivated because of the position of the passenger or the passenger is less than 70 lbs (i.e. child)

JLim

$1,796.00 for the 17” 15-Spoke Chrome-Look Aluminum Alloy Wheel
$1,396.00 for the 18" Sparkle Silver High Performance Alloy Wheel

Funny how a smaller wheel is more expensive just because it has the chrome-look...

Also, the all-season floor mats went up from $129 to $132. =)

Casper42

Well they were either too lazy or changed their minds about the Red. Redondo Red is still listed under Build n Price. They also didnt bother to make an overlay for the alternate 17s for the top picture.

rets

I'll either MERGE this thread into 05TL sticky or make this thread as STICKY tomorrow.


Then, I'll update all the links/pics/info into the first POST. This will be easier for ppl to give it a quick glance.

rets

1. Don't we have passenger airbag disable indicator inside the instrument panel?

2. 05 MID's HFL screen shows "HANDS FREE TELEPHONE", what do we have for 04?

3. Does 05's Navi has better resolution? The LCD inside the interactive showroom looks sharp.

Repecat

I like the new wheels, but I bet they are more difficult to keep clean.

ToddL

We finally have some information regarding the 2005 TL's on acura.com. Looks like the MSRP ($35,470.00) went up $250.00.

Possible Changes - can someone confirm:
3D Solar Sensing Automatic Climate Control (Was this available on the 2004?)
Airbag height and position sensors?
8" 3D Touch Screen. (Larger than 2004?)
Increased Voice Commands for 2005?
8 Speaker 225 watts

rets

3D Solar... YES at 04

05 add a few more (prolly 2 sensors only)

LCD is the same size; resolution dunno

293 Voice command as 04 has

8 Speaker 225-watt is the same

ToddL

We finally have some information regarding the 2005 TL's on acura.com. Looks like the MSRP ($35,470.00) went up $250.00.

Possible Changes - can someone confirm:

Interior
3D Solar Sensing Automatic Climate Control (Was this available on the 2004?)
Airbag height and position sensors?
8" 3D Touch Screen. (Larger than 2004?)
Increased Voice Commands for 2005?
8 Speaker 225 watts surround sound system
Support up to 6 phones via Blue tooth?
Increased functionality of keyless remote control (Climate Control, Door Locks)

Decrease in City fuel economy (19 from 20)
Different tires?
AT - Weighs Less?
Shorter?
increased Cargo volume?
Increase choices in rims

ToddL

Sorry for the double post...

rets

3D Solar... YES at 04

05 add a few more (prolly 2 sensors only)

LCD is the same size; resolution

293 Voice command as 04 has

8 Speaker 225-watt is the same

6 BT phones at 04

Keyless remote "should be" the same


05 still shows 20/29 for both, but 04's 5AT 20/28, 6MT 20/30, ppl said it's mis-printed??

Tires may have options, but Acura.com doesn't say

Size should be the same (186 or 189)

Cargo 12.3 & 12.5, the same as 04

17" rim as additional option

tasdisr

The pricing is posted for the 05 tl on acura's we site

kevin922

Hey thanks for making it easy on us and posting that actual pricing info here instead of making us go look for ourselves

EmuMessenger

shotcaller88

2005 TL 5-Speed Automatic Starts at $32,900
2005 TL 5-Speed Automatic with Navigation System Starts at $34,900
2005 TL 6-Speed Manual Starts at $32,900
2005 TL 6-Speed Manual with Navigation System Starts at $34,900
2005 TL 6-Speed Manual with High-Performance Summer Tires Starts at $33,100
2005 TL 6-Speed Manual with High-Performance Summer Tires and Navigation System Starts at $35,100

shotcaller88

Also...for the 18" rims, it appears the silver & chrome wheels we previously saw pictures of are the new ones. The options according to acura.com are:
18" Sparkle Silver High Performance Alloy Wheel
18" High Performance Chrome-Look Alloy Wheel

I would have been surprised if they had completely changed the style since these are really some of the nicest oem rims around.

MyJohnson

Only an increase of $275. Not bad!

bfogarty

In looking at the 2005 TL web-site I noticed that they are listing two types of plugs for the back-up sensors. The regular and the new flat style-Does anyone know what they are talking about?

Airdog

About how much of an increase is this from the '04 TL's? - oops, forget it - i found the other thread. sorry.

dcarlinf1

MSRP for the chrome-look wheels is an extra ~$500. What a rip off. Wheels are nice though. But, I prefer my gun metal finished wheels.

FlashG

From the site:

A-SPEC™ KIT

The Acura A-SPEC kit is a complete dealer installed accessory package that addresses the demands of performance enthusiasts by providing enhanced handling, aggressive looks, quality and durability. The Acura TL A-SPEC kit includes a suspension package, 18-inch alloy wheels, high-performance brake pads for the automatic transmission model, an aero kit and a sport steering wheel.

The suspension package features track-tuned shocks and springs that lower the car approximately one inch.

The A-SPEC kit also includes 18-inch alloy wheels, which are shod with high performance AVS ES100 235/40VR18 95W Yokohama tires designed specifically for the TL A-SPEC kit.

While the 2005 TL with 6-speed manual transmission features powerful 4-piston Brembo® front brakes, the A-SPEC kit for automatic transmission-equipped models includes high-performance brake pads.

The package also comes equipped with an aero kit that includes either a deck lid or rear wing spoiler.

To learn more, please contact your Acura dealer.

cM3go

there is a sticky on this already :P

Pro Street

I just looked at the Acura site and went through the list of Safety features. I copied them here for all to see. Check out the "Auto -On/Off Headlights"

Looks like auto-on has been added to the TL.


Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®) with traction control
Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS)
4-Wheel Disc Brakes (front/rear)
Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD)
Electronic Brake Assist
Bi-Xenon High-Intensity Discharge (HID) Headlights
Auto-On/Off Headlights
LED Side Markers, Taillights and Center High Mount Stop Light (CHMSL)

cM3go

:wtf:

EMF213

DAMMIT!!!! I'm trading my 2 week old 04 in!!! LOL
Seriously...I hate that!!!

Teh Jatt

I dont care about AUTO ON/OFF HEADLIGHT feature.

rets

Back-Up Sensor

Back-Up Sensors help alert the driver to obstacles behind the vehicles when backing up
Four color-matched sensors are installed on the rear of the vehicle, and the system beeps with increased frequency as the vehicle nears an object
Two styles to choose from: regular* or new flat style
Price shown includes required attachment kit (Installation costs not included)

*Available while supplies last

MSRP: $578.00



Let's wait for some pics. If it looks good, I'll ask my dealer to install it into my 04...

DMZ

It's about time they figured out they screwed up with that horrible original design just like they also figured out they screwed up by putting on Bullshitstone EL-42's. My dealer's sales manager told me today and it's official - Navi models for '05 are getting Michelin Pilot Sports A/S's. No official indication for Non-Navi models other than the standard tire replacement Acura part # is DIFFERENT than for the '04.

rets

If he's saying the truth, the additional $250 is not the add-up for 04's MSPR, but the price difference for those tires.

cvajs

looks to me like the 2005 engine is the same as 2004 engine. why were people posting info about more HP, etc ???

PeterGrant

Well, my wife and I just went to the dealer and put a deposit on a 2005 TL in Silver (non-NAVI). The first shipment of them is expected to arrive on October 6. That's going to seem like a LONG time.

We were considering the desert mist colour, but it's not available in Canada for 2005. That made the choice of colour easier for us.

Now we just have to wait for Acura.ca to post some details about the car that's coming to Canada. Hopefully it's not really any different from the US model.