07 TLS vs. 05 G35 Sedan
#41
^ I am in norcal. feel free to come here. i can claim i beat a ferrari. will anyone believe me? Hahaha. if you dont have any videos or proof of you beating a 335. no point talking? haha trust me. TL are out of the league compared to a 335. don't know what kind of 335 you been racing. probably some stupid ass who debadged his 330i and put a 335i badge on it. LMAO
#45
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
wow. lol isnt that just awesome? IMO, there is no way a TL can keep up with a 335 with simple bolts on a TL. Unless your heavily modded with like a SC and nitrous then ya.. probably. Are you automatic or manual? where you from? socal? I wouldn't mind racing you. I am bone stock. Won't be getting my chip until a month or 2. i got a video of me racing my friends 350z 6mt exhaust + intake. 0-100, gave him jump and beat him by 10+ car lengthes. then we did a 20 roll gave him jump again beat him by another 10+ car lengthes.
#46
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
I went and looked up many curb weights for the 2002-2003 TL-S and found 3475-3495lbs. Your car is still lighter than a 3rd gen TL Auto. I still believe that the 2nd gen TL-S is slightly quicker than a 3rd gen TL auto. Is that what most of you have found?
#49
Originally Posted by Dave_B
Yes. It's been my experience on the strip that the 02-03 TLS is a notably quicker car than the 5AT 04+ TLs. With headers and an intake, I've personnally seen 14.4s-14.5s@98mph out of two TLS'. The 2nd gen car is lighter and the engine has a much larger aftermarket. Gains with headers are extremely impressive. I wish my G could post the same gains, but my car already came with manifolds that are nearly headers.
#50
Hes talking about modded ones. Second gen tl has way more potential than any third gen tl. The bolts on available on second gen will kill a third gen easily with all bolts. If only second gen came out with 6mt.
#52
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
Bring it. Get your pos g35 against a 335 and see how much ill smoke u by. Dont get mad your engine is slow. The 350z was not stock. He has intake and exhaust.
#53
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by JJaber06
what aftermarket does it have that the 3rd gen doesnt? Headers is the only thing i can think of, and we have the e-shift HFC.
#54
Originally Posted by JJaber06
what aftermarket does it have that the 3rd gen doesnt? Headers is the only thing i can think of, and we have the e-shift HFC.
#55
Originally Posted by Dave_B
Apples to oranges, Chief and don't get all ricer on me either arguing like 4 y/o. I'd hope to God that a 335 with an underrated 300hp (closer to 340hp) would beat my ~285hp G35 and I shouldn't have explain why because it's obvious on so many levels. Sounding like a broken record, intakes DO NOT DO SQUAT on G/Zs and they usually hurt power. That's a fact. I know way more than the VQ series than you could fathom. As for exhausts, gains are minimal seeing that the stock exhaust is already basically equipped with headers and 2.7" ID piping. You might see 10whp with a true dual exhaust on a Z/G. If you have an intake also, then you can probably kiss any gains away because the MAF gets really flakey when it sees high flow. What happens is it will make the engine run extremely lean which then causes inaudible detonation which then leads to the ECU dumping in lots of fuel and cutting timing which then makes for a slower car. Some sort of tuning is required to effectively take advantage of those mods assuming the intake is not a CAI (CAI = 5 to 10whp less than stock).
#56
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
My friend has a 03 350z that has 280 hp. Not the new 350z with 300. You say the 07 350z can take a 335. Thats bs. They may run mid to high 13s but 335 run low 13s stock. I think u need to do so more researching. And also my friend has a sri and exhaust. We did a before and after run his 350z pulled more after the mods
The 07 350Z weighs about 3300lbs and has 265-270whp/230wtq. The 07 335 sedan weighs in close to 3,600lbs and has about 290-295whp/290wtq. The power to weight is identical.
#57
335i vs is350
335i wins everytime.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=124138
335i runs 1/4 in 13.4@103.9 mag times
here is a stock 335i running low 13s.
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-10490.html
One simple mod on a 335 will boost it to 60 WHP. i cannot see a stock 350z beating a stock 335i. It never happened before. 350z are slow. totally outta the league with 335s.
335i wins everytime.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=124138
335i runs 1/4 in 13.4@103.9 mag times
here is a stock 335i running low 13s.
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-10490.html
One simple mod on a 335 will boost it to 60 WHP. i cannot see a stock 350z beating a stock 335i. It never happened before. 350z are slow. totally outta the league with 335s.
#58
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
335i vs is350
335i wins everytime.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=124138
335i runs 1/4 in 13.4@103.9 mag times
here is a stock 335i running low 13s.
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-10490.html
One simple mod on a 335 will boost it to 60 WHP. i cannot see a stock 350z beating a stock 335i. It never happened before. 350z are slow. totally outta the league with 335s.
335i wins everytime.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=124138
335i runs 1/4 in 13.4@103.9 mag times
here is a stock 335i running low 13s.
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-10490.html
One simple mod on a 335 will boost it to 60 WHP. i cannot see a stock 350z beating a stock 335i. It never happened before. 350z are slow. totally outta the league with 335s.
As for the 350Z being slow. Here is a bonestock 07 350Z on STREET TIRES pulling 13.2s@107mph. Hmm...look at that trapspeed. That's about 3mph faster than the 335 you posted. On DRs, he'll go 13.0s. On slicks, 12s is a no brainers. Videos and timeslips included. http://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314009
Consider yourself owned.
#60
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
Headers on a second gen gives 20 whp if not 25 whp. I believe 2nd gen redlines at 7200 and 3rd gen reds at 6800. We are 100 pounds lighter.
#61
ive seen a 335 do 13s flat bone stock. might need to look it up again. 350z is slow. look at how much i smoke this 350z by. i dont care about track times. i look at what i have experienced. heres a video of me smoking the shit outta a 350z with mods. fuckin ripped his car apart. i gave him jump in both races. i didn't even launch either.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tN6-3RcFYIo
and jaber dont talk unless you done some research on the headers. go search up comptech headers on acurazine. people has done before and after runs on dynos and shows that people got 20 hp to the wheels if not more.
comptech website claims that you can have up to 32 HP. too bad their website is down right now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tN6-3RcFYIo
and jaber dont talk unless you done some research on the headers. go search up comptech headers on acurazine. people has done before and after runs on dynos and shows that people got 20 hp to the wheels if not more.
comptech website claims that you can have up to 32 HP. too bad their website is down right now.
#63
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
ive seen a 335 do 13s flat bone stock. might need to look it up again. 350z is slow. look at how much i smoke this 350z by. i dont care about track times. i look at what i have experienced. heres a video of me smoking the shit outta a 350z with mods. fuckin ripped his car apart. i gave him jump in both races. i didn't even launch either.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tN6-3RcFYIo
and jaber dont talk unless you done some research on the headers. go search up comptech headers on acurazine. people has done before and after runs on dynos and shows that people got 20 hp to the wheels if not more.
comptech website claims that you can have up to 32 HP. too bad their website is down right now.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tN6-3RcFYIo
and jaber dont talk unless you done some research on the headers. go search up comptech headers on acurazine. people has done before and after runs on dynos and shows that people got 20 hp to the wheels if not more.
comptech website claims that you can have up to 32 HP. too bad their website is down right now.
AEM claims 18whp with a CAI, doesn't make it true.
#66
Originally Posted by JJaber06
Just because YOU beat a 350z doesn't mean a 335 can beat any 350Z, sorry to break the news to you. You call the 350Z "slow", yet they run almost identical 1/4 times. I've beat plenty of cars simply because the driver didn't know what he was doing. BTW hit the english books....reading anything you type gives me a headache
AEM claims 18whp with a CAI, doesn't make it true.
AEM claims 18whp with a CAI, doesn't make it true.
look at the trap speeds. ETs are more closely related to the 60fts. He's 2mph higher than the rest AND would be ranked #2 in the NOT-Stock '07s. It's most likely either BS due to non-disclosure, weight reduction or a nice, 40mph tailwind.
If that Z is going 13.2, one other is going 13.3, and ALL of the rest of the '07's are going 13.5-13.7, then something there is odd.
#69
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
I searched online everywhere. i cant find 350z having identical times with 335i. most of the times i see tested by professionals 13.6s. I haven't seen one tested by professional gotten low 13s. sometimes the track can hand you the wrong time slips and the track times might be wrong. they make mistakes. its easy to hide certain mods. like removing the spare tire, running racing gas, tuning vehicle, filters.here is some comments i found for the track times dave posted:
look at the trap speeds. ETs are more closely related to the 60fts. He's 2mph higher than the rest AND would be ranked #2 in the NOT-Stock '07s. It's most likely either BS due to non-disclosure, weight reduction or a nice, 40mph tailwind.
If that Z is going 13.2, one other is going 13.3, and ALL of the rest of the '07's are going 13.5-13.7, then something there is odd.
look at the trap speeds. ETs are more closely related to the 60fts. He's 2mph higher than the rest AND would be ranked #2 in the NOT-Stock '07s. It's most likely either BS due to non-disclosure, weight reduction or a nice, 40mph tailwind.
If that Z is going 13.2, one other is going 13.3, and ALL of the rest of the '07's are going 13.5-13.7, then something there is odd.
#70
haha i don't see why u need to get so frustrated over this??? want to buy: chill pill. sorry to dissapoint you but 350z/g35 are slow man. My friend has been driving his 350z for 5 yrs. I am sure he knows how to drive it correctly. he brings his car to the track every now and then. dont blame the driver, blame the car. how is a 0-60=5.5 beat a 0-60 in 4.8 second car? common sense. 13.8 is pretty good. good enough to beat a 350z/g35 at least.
lets bring this to bimmer forums and 350z/g35 forums. no need to argue in TL forum about 350z vs 335. go ask how many people have beaten a 350z in a bimmer forum. and go ask how many people have beaten a 335i in a 350z forum.
lets bring this to bimmer forums and 350z/g35 forums. no need to argue in TL forum about 350z vs 335. go ask how many people have beaten a 350z in a bimmer forum. and go ask how many people have beaten a 335i in a 350z forum.
#72
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
haha i don't see why u need to get so frustrated over this??? want to buy: chill pill. sorry to dissapoint you but 350z/g35 are slow man. My friend has been driving his 350z for 5 yrs. I am sure he knows how to drive it correctly. he brings his car to the track every now and then. dont blame the driver, blame the car. how is a 0-60=5.5 beat a 0-60 in 4.8 second car? common sense. 13.8 is pretty good. good enough to beat a 350z/g35 at least.
lets bring this to bimmer forums and 350z/g35 forums. no need to argue in TL forum about 350z vs 335. go ask how many people have beaten a 350z in a bimmer forum. and go ask how many people have beaten a 335i in a 350z forum.
lets bring this to bimmer forums and 350z/g35 forums. no need to argue in TL forum about 350z vs 335. go ask how many people have beaten a 350z in a bimmer forum. and go ask how many people have beaten a 335i in a 350z forum.
I agree with what Dave said, I wanna see you take daddys toy to the track and see what you can do with it. I can almost bet you'll run in the 14s
Its also funny how you say its not the driver its the car LOL Say that at the track, I bet most of those track vets will rape you in every orfice you have with a slower car.
BTW has anyone seen his parents 335?
#73
2003 Accord Coupe V6
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Originally Posted by F23A4
From a racing perspective (with my old 02 Maxima 4AT running against both), I would say YES! I found the 02-03 TL-S to be more of a challenge to my Maxima than the 04-07 TL 5AT.
#74
2003 Accord Coupe V6
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Originally Posted by Dave_B
Yes. It's been my experience on the strip that the 02-03 TLS is a notably quicker car than the 5AT 04+ TLs. With headers and an intake, I've personnally seen 14.4s-14.5s@98mph out of two TLS'. The 2nd gen car is lighter and the engine has a much larger aftermarket. Gains with headers are extremely impressive. I wish my G could post the same gains, but my car already came with manifolds that are nearly headers.
#75
2003 Accord Coupe V6
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I figure I will jump into this arguement over the 335i vs 350Z HR. I believe its a drivers race but here are some figures I found.
Bone stock 07 350Z HR
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z...lip-13384.html
Bone stock 07 335i Auto
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-12920.html
Bone stock 07 335i 6spd
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-13054.html
There are a couple stock 335i's both auto and 6spd running 14.2 but the only way they could pull that time is with Drag radials(not the stock tires like the Z had when it pulled a 14.2.) After doing alot of research the 6spd and auto versions of the 335i are equal in speed. Most times a manual is quicker but BMW did a great job with the autos!
The Z traps higher stock than a 335i stock. Without the drag radials on the BMW's the Z is the winner stock!
By the way that was the only 07 350Z on dragtimes and he ran a 13.2@105. Most of the stock 335i's were in the mid 13's. So the average time for the 350z is faster than the average stock times for the 335i's.
So if you really wanted to drag race these cars I would have to say a stock 07 350Z beats a stock 335i in a equal drivers race. The Lexus IS350 would be 3rd after seeing nothing breaking out of the 13.5 range stock. The IS350 also has the lowest trapspeeds of the bunch but without a manual tranny the IS performs well.
Bone stock 07 350Z HR
http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-350Z...lip-13384.html
Bone stock 07 335i Auto
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-12920.html
Bone stock 07 335i 6spd
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-13054.html
There are a couple stock 335i's both auto and 6spd running 14.2 but the only way they could pull that time is with Drag radials(not the stock tires like the Z had when it pulled a 14.2.) After doing alot of research the 6spd and auto versions of the 335i are equal in speed. Most times a manual is quicker but BMW did a great job with the autos!
The Z traps higher stock than a 335i stock. Without the drag radials on the BMW's the Z is the winner stock!
By the way that was the only 07 350Z on dragtimes and he ran a 13.2@105. Most of the stock 335i's were in the mid 13's. So the average time for the 350z is faster than the average stock times for the 335i's.
So if you really wanted to drag race these cars I would have to say a stock 07 350Z beats a stock 335i in a equal drivers race. The Lexus IS350 would be 3rd after seeing nothing breaking out of the 13.5 range stock. The IS350 also has the lowest trapspeeds of the bunch but without a manual tranny the IS performs well.
#76
You guys are just basing the information on the timeslips. There is too much to consider. temperature,elevation,condition,etc. I seen many magazine showing 350z running 13.6-13.8 and 0-60 in the low 5s. I haven't seen one magazine showing a 350z running 13.2. The time slip you showed, 350z running @ 60 degrees F where 335i running at 80 degrees. the average time for 335s are low 13s to mid 13s. and 0-60 in high 4s.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
#77
335 your a pompus asshole. Just letting you know that... 335 your just jealous cuss you cant afford a E63 at the age of 17... HEHEHEH.... Now don't I look like a faggot when I say something as stupid as what you said?
#78
I'm guessing DS is just drive? Just using it in context...As for the M3 comment, the M is still a better all around sports car. It may not better in the straights, but it'll eat a 335 on the track. Also, i'm pretty sure the upped the engine in the M3 because of its competition, not because of a lower model of the 3.
I think you're confusing BMW's with a Bently, because they're not hand built machines produced in limited quantities. I just wouldn't waste my money on anything other than an M though, esp with the 3-series. I also didn't want to come off as an uneducated tool which fits the BMW profile, and you pretty much reinforce that point.
Trust me, theres no way you're paying for the 335 (if its even yours). No bank would approve a loan for a 19 year old buy a $50k car under their own name, so i'll stick by the "daddy's car" statement. The only other possible scenario I can think of is your folks skipped on a decent education for you and put all that money into a brand new BMW for their illiterate baby. Either way, I think I pretty much nailed it on the head.
I think you're confusing BMW's with a Bently, because they're not hand built machines produced in limited quantities. I just wouldn't waste my money on anything other than an M though, esp with the 3-series. I also didn't want to come off as an uneducated tool which fits the BMW profile, and you pretty much reinforce that point.
Trust me, theres no way you're paying for the 335 (if its even yours). No bank would approve a loan for a 19 year old buy a $50k car under their own name, so i'll stick by the "daddy's car" statement. The only other possible scenario I can think of is your folks skipped on a decent education for you and put all that money into a brand new BMW for their illiterate baby. Either way, I think I pretty much nailed it on the head.
#79
2003 Accord Coupe V6
iTrader: (2)
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
You guys are just basing the information on the timeslips. There is too much to consider. temperature,elevation,condition,etc. I seen many magazine showing 350z running 13.6-13.8 and 0-60 in the low 5s. I haven't seen one magazine showing a 350z running 13.2. The time slip you showed, 350z running @ 60 degrees F where 335i running at 80 degrees. the average time for 335s are low 13s to mid 13s. and 0-60 in high 4s.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
If you don't like the discussion here at acurazine then you can go back to the BMW forums where there are plenty of stuck up Bimmer drivers like yourself!
#80
Burning Brakes
Originally Posted by TwinTurbo335
You guys are just basing the information on the timeslips. There is too much to consider. temperature,elevation,condition,etc. I seen many magazine showing 350z running 13.6-13.8 and 0-60 in the low 5s. I haven't seen one magazine showing a 350z running 13.2. The time slip you showed, 350z running @ 60 degrees F where 335i running at 80 degrees. the average time for 335s are low 13s to mid 13s. and 0-60 in high 4s.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=117669
and to jaber. people has done 13.6 by just flooring the car at DS. (doubt u even know what that is ) btw. the last generation m3 is slower than the 335 that is why they changed the engine for the 2008 model.
Our 335i similarly scalded the quarter-mile in 13.3 seconds at 105.9 mph. For comparison, our 2005 M3 Competition Package used up 5.5 seconds getting to 60 and finished the quarter-mile in 13.7 seconds at 105.4 mph — close, but still a rearview-mirror performance.
and for the daddys car remark. dont get jealous man that you cant afford a BMW at the age of 19. HAHAHAHAHA
if anyone want to discuss any further, feel free to post on 350z forum or bmw forums. tired of argueing on a acura forums over a 335 vs a 350z match up. None of you guys own a 335i or a 350z. So no point argueing. Late guys.
Slightly modded 335i vs 2007 350z. found this on beamer forum. have fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SaTCBIoWMw
Better drivers on excellent tracks in good conditions will always exceed corrected mag time (you do know that the mags correct their times to sea level and standard conditions, right?). The mags say my 03 G35 does 14.6s@97mph. Mine did 14.3s@98mph.
Stop living up to the pompous BMW driver stereotypical attitude.