05 TL 6MT vs 08 Lexus GS350 (highway runs)
06-20-2010, 09:17 PM
#41
06-21-2010, 07:45 AM
#42
Senior Moderator
MODERATOR'S NOTE: Alex, you and I have already addressed this privately, so I will direct this to the other subforum users: Threatening posts such as that above will NOT be tolerated, no matter how justified by provocation it may be. Varying degrees of Acurazine banishment may result if this occurs again.
06-30-2010, 09:31 AM
#45
Not sure what all this "demon" talk came from... but sure does sound funny. However, I can attest that the MS3 is certainly the monster in the highway. Roll speed is what MS3 excels.
?? I have never owned an IS350.
?.. you guys must have confused with someone else. I don't own one and never have.
I doubt it. People who make personal attacks are the ones that get the ban... cute kid.
^^ Seriously. Great, your MS3 is faster than the TL. 
Congrats on your "speed3" made for enthusiasts being faster than a luxury sedan 
I would still love to find you on the streets in your MS3, or IS350 for that matter, and give you a taste of my ricer VTEC wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Congrats on your "speed3" made for enthusiasts being faster than a luxury sedan I would still love to find you on the streets in your MS3, or IS350 for that matter, and give you a taste of my ricer VTEC wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
+1 on a Mod banning this guy polluting every damn thread with is undying love for the IS350/MS3
Last edited by mazdaspeed3God; 06-30-2010 at 09:34 AM.
06-30-2010, 09:53 AM
#46
And the reason why I know about the IS350 is because I have gone through lots of research and reading on the forums. I was thinking about purchasing an IS350 due to its amazing acceleration but it just didn't fit me in handling and ride feel. I acquire stiff ride.. and the MS3 is able to deliver it. I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
Last edited by mazdaspeed3God; 06-30-2010 at 09:57 AM.
06-30-2010, 10:10 AM
#47
Burning Brakes
And the reason why I know about the IS350 is because I have gone through lots of research and reading on the forums. I was thinking about purchasing an IS350 due to its amazing acceleration but it just didn't fit me in handling and ride feel. I acquire stiff ride.. and the MS3 is able to deliver it. I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
06-30-2010, 10:13 AM
#48
Originally Posted by mazdaspeed3God
I doubt it. People who make personal attacks are the ones that get the ban... cute kid.
And the reason why I know about the IS350 is because I have gone through lots of research and reading on the forums. I was thinking about purchasing an IS350 due to its amazing acceleration but it just didn't fit me in handling and ride feel. I acquire stiff ride.. and the MS3 is able to deliver it. I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
06-30-2010, 10:37 AM
#49
And the reason why I know about the IS350 is because I have gone through lots of research and reading on the forums. I was thinking about purchasing an IS350 due to its amazing acceleration but it just didn't fit me in handling and ride feel. I acquire stiff ride.. and the MS3 is able to deliver it. I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
I'm also shocked by its power from roll, faster than the Acura TL-S manual I test drove a year ago. I have also test driven an '07 Infiniti G35 manual and it was a bit slower than the MS3 from roll as well. I know a lot about many cars, not just the one I own, MS3 that is. I am intelligent and highly experienced in driving as well.
06-30-2010, 10:41 AM
#50
I pretty certain a stock 6MT 07 G35 (sedan I'm assuming) will out run a MS3 from a stop or roll seeing that the most broken 07+ Gs see ~103-104mph. The power of the VQ motor is misleading because it has a very smooth and linear powerband making the car feel slower. When power is peaky and ramps up, cars feel much faster. Years ago when I had my modded 94 Z28 (mid 13s@103), it felt much faster than my friends new LS1 1998 Z28. The new LS1 motor was super smooth, quiet, and felt a bit doggy. Turns out when we went to the strip, it did 13.3s@105 and made 20whp more than my Z28.
And it doesn't matter if G35 got 103 or 104 mph trap. The real world driving tests has shown me that the MS3 pulled harder up top. Trap speed is measured in quarter mile application does not apply to rolling speed acceleration, especially when comparing different cars (drivetrain, weight, and power).
LOL this one had me rolling! thanks for the joke of the day. Have a nice day
Last edited by mazdaspeed3God; 06-30-2010 at 10:48 AM.
06-30-2010, 10:41 AM
#51
Turd Polisher
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mazdaspeed3God sure sounds like Manual Transmission.
They both praise their cars like no other.
They both praise their cars like no other.
06-30-2010, 10:46 AM
#52
Test driving the Acura and Infiniti and saying they are slower than your MS3 from a roll is just silly. Your butt dyno isn't going to tell you which car is faster. Yours is a turbo vs two N/A vehicles with very different powerbands. Try actually racing against them.
06-30-2010, 07:21 PM
#54
Back From The dead
After performing plenty of research on these cars as well as the test drive including highways I felt the G35 6MT to be slower, but was a bit faster than the Type-S 6MT I test drove. But the MS3 gave me more immediate power. The car moves more quickly and felt much lighter. I was able to get to 100 mph in no time.
06-30-2010, 10:15 PM
#55
Burning Brakes
Yes, it was a 4 door sedan G35 I test drove. It didn't have as much punch as the MS3 does on each gears. MS3 had stronger pull on 4th and all the way to the 6th in the highway. The performance difference wasn't huge, but it felt clear that the MS3 had more power which is why I got the MS3. And it doesn't matter if G35 got 103 or 104 mph trap. The real world driving tests has shown me that the MS3 pulled harder up top. Trap speed is measured in quarter mile application does not apply to rolling speed acceleration, especially when comparing different cars (drivetrain, weight, and power).
And it doesn't matter if G35 got 103 or 104 mph trap. The real world driving tests has shown me that the MS3 pulled harder up top. Trap speed is measured in quarter mile application does not apply to rolling speed acceleration, especially when comparing different cars (drivetrain, weight, and power).I'm gonna have to say nay. The new MS3 is no quicker than the previous gen car. They're all lower 14 second 100-101mph cars making the same HP. The 07/08 G35 6MT will walk all over a MS3. Just look at these two Road & Track data panels. Since you like roll racing so much, a 07 G35 did 50mph to 110mph in 12 seconds flat. The 07 MS3 did it in 13.1. I don't see the MS3 coming remotely close seeing that 1.1 second gap is going to equal about 6 cars+ in a roll race from 50mph to 110mph. Even the TL-S is .3 seconds quicker from 50 to 110mph than the MS3. Hmmmmmm....
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...S-350_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...peed3_data.pdf
Last edited by Dave_B; 06-30-2010 at 10:20 PM.
07-01-2010, 07:26 AM
#56
I'm gonna have to say nay. The new MS3 is no quicker than the previous gen car. They're all lower 14 second 100-101mph cars making the same HP. The 07/08 G35 6MT will walk all over a MS3. Just look at these two Road & Track data panels. Since you like roll racing so much, a 07 G35 did 50mph to 110mph in 12 seconds flat. The 07 MS3 did it in 13.1. I don't see the MS3 coming remotely close seeing that 1.1 second gap is going to equal about 6 cars+ in a roll race from 50mph to 110mph. Even the TL-S is .3 seconds quicker from 50 to 110mph than the MS3. Hmmmmmm....
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...S-350_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...peed3_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...S-350_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...peed3_data.pdf
so if the G/TL might be able to beat it to 110 but as soon as 4th gear hits he'll burn rubber on the highway and smoke them. Plus he test drove both of them and according to his butt dyno the MS3 pulls much better so this discredits your argument and any other facts 
Something tells me this guy would believe a STi/Evo is faster over an E92/E90 M3 and if he got one he would only race to 60mph
07-01-2010, 08:41 AM
#57
All motor
What I think is funny is where next to the '120' on the MS3 file it says "NA" 
It took so long they didn't even wanna show it.
But honestly, those graphs show a pretty good representation of how a car climbs from both a stop and a roll. It seems the MS3 is very comparable in terms of straight line performance to the TL-s 6MT in both 1/4 mile and roll racing. I know people have gotten 13s in the MS3 and I don't think anyone has yet in the TL-s.
Anyone have a stock 6MT TL-s they'd let me take to the track?
Good find Dave.
It took so long they didn't even wanna show it.But honestly, those graphs show a pretty good representation of how a car climbs from both a stop and a roll. It seems the MS3 is very comparable in terms of straight line performance to the TL-s 6MT in both 1/4 mile and roll racing. I know people have gotten 13s in the MS3 and I don't think anyone has yet in the TL-s.
Anyone have a stock 6MT TL-s they'd let me take to the track?
Good find Dave.
07-01-2010, 09:56 AM
#59
Burning Brakes
The MS3 really shines after 4th gear past 110mph due to the boost cut in the first 3 gears (http://www.autoblog.com/2010/02/02/r...on-the-bubble/) so if the G/TL might be able to beat it to 110 but as soon as 4th gear hits he'll burn rubber on the highway and smoke them. Plus he test drove both of them and according to his butt dyno the MS3 pulls much better so this discredits your argument and any other facts
so if the G/TL might be able to beat it to 110 but as soon as 4th gear hits he'll burn rubber on the highway and smoke them. Plus he test drove both of them and according to his butt dyno the MS3 pulls much better so this discredits your argument and any other facts
07-01-2010, 10:19 AM
#60
All motor
07-01-2010, 10:44 AM
#61
I'm gonna have to say nay. The new MS3 is no quicker than the previous gen car. They're all lower 14 second 100-101mph cars making the same HP. The 07/08 G35 6MT will walk all over a MS3. Just look at these two Road & Track data panels. Since you like roll racing so much, a 07 G35 did 50mph to 110mph in 12 seconds flat. The 07 MS3 did it in 13.1. I don't see the MS3 coming remotely close seeing that 1.1 second gap is going to equal about 6 cars+ in a roll race from 50mph to 110mph. Even the TL-S is .3 seconds quicker from 50 to 110mph than the MS3. Hmmmmmm....
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...S-350_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...peed3_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...S-350_data.pdf
http://www.roadandtrack.com/content/...peed3_data.pdf
What is interesting about the graph on the TL-S is that from 20-30mph it takes .9 seconds, 30-40MPH it takes 1.3 seconds and then from 40-50MPh it takes .9 seconds, 60-70 takes 1.9 seconds, 70-80 takes 1.7 seconds, 80-90 takes 2.6 seconds and 90-100 takes 2.4 seconds.
To me it seems like the driver of that TL-S cannot shift!
Shift points are at 39mph,62mph,90mph. Does anyone else see the difference in times! Seems like a rookie driver haha. Lets get sonnick in a TL-S and see what he can do!
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