carbngrytl

So I played with an 04-06 TL tonight. And I got him by about 1.5 car lengths twice by the top of 2 nd gear. First time he was in front if me and I actually went out around him. His car was an 04-06 and sounded stock. Mine is an 07 with takeda cold air intake. I didn't think my cai would have made that big of a difference. Or maybe his car was just busted.

DaeHanMeenGuk

It could be a lot of different things.

- he's normally drives at that speed and you just happened to go faster
- he didn't know that he was in a mini race
- he let you pass because you appeared to be going somewhere in a hurry
- he had to take a piss really badly and he accidentally relieved himself, causing him to slow down

please tell me that you didn't flash your hazards after you "beat" him...

justnspace

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he didnt know he was racing.

carbngrytl

Yea he knew he what was going on. And no I didn't flash my hazards. I'm not that much of a ricer. I've raced enough people to know when someone's serious.

Nick216

Ever think his car wasn't stock?

ggesq

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that's weird. since he has an 05 he has more HP than you. 270> 258

anx1300c

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Huh? The other guy was slower.

OP, maybe he's mobbed up and had a couple dead bodies stuffed in the trunk. Or maybe he was manual and couldn't drive. Or had a dead rodent stuck under his gas pedal. Lots of possibilities.

carbngrytl

His car was auto. Who knows, I just thought it was odd and thought I'd share.

Nick216

Damn im tired I thought op said he lost to the 04.

justnspace

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there's just too many variables.

both the auto 04-06 and the auto 07-08 TL base' have the same engine.
if you were able to go around him with ease, then

EvilVirus

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THEReeM718

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Scottwax

You know the TLs were downgraded to 258 hp because Acura overstated the power they were putting out, right?

G*LUVA

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Typing in red = sarcasm

nttstt444

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No-it changed because of the new SAE horsepower rating system of 2006.

paperboy42190

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You know red text is the meaning for sarcasm, right?

DaeHanMeenGuk

You know red text isn't used for sarcasm, right?

justnspace

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did we ever find out if red text indicates sarcasm?

MarcoNorthPolo

Where'd you get your information from, a Lexus forum? This is not in red, it's a serious question.

anx1300c

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Well, he's technically not wrong. The Japanese have always had a tendency to be a little "optimistic" with their power ratings, whether it be Honda, Toyota, Nissan. Now, with the revised, stricter SAE standards, they can't really do that any longer. The Germans completely the opposite; they usually grossly underrate their powertrains. The old adage, "German horses have always been stronger than Japanese ponies" carries serious merit.

pohljm

Bolted 2nd gen 3.2's are faster than bolted 3rd gens. Headers make a big difference.

FCVadi

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so wait, is red text sarcasm?

justnspace

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maybe a full bolted on 6mt swapped 2nd gen.
aint no automatic 2G is passing me up.

pohljm

You would be suprised

justnspace

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^even with headers, they have less HP than we do stock...

swap the auto for a 6mt and youve got a beast.

anx1300c

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Even if this is so, what does it have to do with OP running an '04-06?

pohljm

Just tryin to incite a riot

anx1300c

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Lol.

Scottwax

First board I've ever seen using a different text color for sarcasm.

pohljm

Actually the S. model had same HP. But the headers are worth an additional 25-30 HP the 3rd gens can never capture.

anx1300c

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No, the 3.2 A2 was rated at 260 under the old standards, where as the 3.2 A3 was rated 270 under the same standards. The 02-'03 Type-S would have been rated around 247-248 if it were made post 2006. 2G Type-S's had trouble cracking 200 whp stock.

NBP-UA6

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My friend have an 05 and I have an 07.. I beat him everytime we raced (for fun, of course).. So I dont know..

pohljm

So subtract 10 off the top. Your still at +15-20 hp that the cast manifold heads cannot obtain.

MarcoNorthPolo

That's a good point. I'd retract my post, but I can't.

anx1300c

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At the end of the day, a FBO 2G Type-S and a FBO 5AT 3G base are going to be pretty close numbers wise. The PCD's make up a good portion of that 15-20 hp. Stock to stock, I've heard the 2G might be a hair quicker due to not having DBW, but regardless, they're still both crippled by their transmissions. The 6MT swapped 2G's are decently quick.