'01 S2000 vs Newer Camaro.
08-24-2011, 01:49 AM
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'01 S2000 vs Newer Camaro.
Had a run in with one of the newer Camaros tonight. Black, V6, stick (I assume), and sitting on some 22's I think. To make it short and sweet we ran twice..
*My S2K is virtually stock with the exception of a 3" cat-back.. I don't know how much power it actually makes though in comparison to how much noise it makes.
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1) He was about a car length ahead and he wouldn't slow down to line up, so once he heard me to drop to 3rd he hit it too. I was at about ~65mph in 3rd gear and I managed to reel him in and pull a car length on him before shutting down at ~90mph.
2) We pulled up to a light and I told that I actually wanted to line up and give him another shot. 30mph in 1st gear, 3 honks and we're off! Almost immediately I start pulling and I shut down about 1.5-2 car lengths ahead after shifting into 3rd gear.
All in all, some decent runs. He gave me a thumbs up and went on his way and I did the same.
. Good to know that the little 4-banger can hang.
- David.
*My S2K is virtually stock with the exception of a 3" cat-back.. I don't know how much power it actually makes though in comparison to how much noise it makes.
lol1) He was about a car length ahead and he wouldn't slow down to line up, so once he heard me to drop to 3rd he hit it too. I was at about ~65mph in 3rd gear and I managed to reel him in and pull a car length on him before shutting down at ~90mph.
2) We pulled up to a light and I told that I actually wanted to line up and give him another shot. 30mph in 1st gear, 3 honks and we're off! Almost immediately I start pulling and I shut down about 1.5-2 car lengths ahead after shifting into 3rd gear.
All in all, some decent runs. He gave me a thumbs up and went on his way and I did the same.
. Good to know that the little 4-banger can hang. - David.
08-24-2011, 02:04 AM
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I've heard mixed opinions on them.. even in stock rim (w/o the giant rims) I've read that they're pigs.
Idk though.. guess I'll just have to wait and find out when I run the next one.
08-24-2011, 10:14 AM
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Nice kills! Those 22's are probably slowing him down quite a bit. Still think the S2k would pull none the less. Anyway check out this vid of a V6 Camaro 6MT stock vs a 06 5AT 350Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxnVANoJK0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLxnVANoJK0
08-24-2011, 01:02 PM
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It's not really that. It's the fact that the 350Z Roadster is about 250lbs heavier than the hardtop plus the Z had a passenger. In stock form, a 5AT Roadster is good for 14.4-14.5s on average. That Z, especially with it's terribly slow start, would be lucky to crack a 15.0. A 6AT base Camaro is good for 14.5s. I'm not surprised by this race at all.
08-24-2011, 01:05 PM
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Not a decently driven hardtop Z. They don't need the extreme launch rpm like your S2000 needs. On paper, the Z should be fractionally quicker. In most driver's hands, the Z should be much quicker since it's not remotely has hard to launch effectively. From a roll, it would be close, but I think the Z is going to walk after 100mph.
08-24-2011, 01:20 PM
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It's not really that. It's the fact that the 350Z Roadster is about 250lbs heavier than the hardtop plus the Z had a passenger. In stock form, a 5AT Roadster is good for 14.4-14.5s on average. That Z, especially with it's terribly slow start, would be lucky to crack a 15.0. A 6AT base Camaro is good for 14.5s. I'm not surprised by this race at all.
08-24-2011, 02:32 PM
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Not a decently driven hardtop Z. They don't need the extreme launch rpm like your S2000 needs. On paper, the Z should be fractionally quicker. In most driver's hands, the Z should be much quicker since it's not remotely has hard to launch effectively. From a roll, it would be close, but I think the Z is going to walk after 100mph.
I love Z's. I wanted one more than my S2000 actually. I'm just surprised that in 4 months of owning my S2K I haven't actually gotten to race a Z.
08-25-2011, 01:28 PM
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08-26-2011, 10:51 AM
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08-26-2011, 11:04 AM
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True, but they have a bit more torque, a fatter powerband, and a live axle which lets them plant the tires quite well. The new V6 Stangs can move and with a couple very simple bolt-ons, even more so. Strap on a set of slicks to a bonestock 11'+ V6 6MT Stang and it should easily see mid 13s. Add a set of 4.1 gears, tuner, headers, and catback and you're looking at low 13s, possibly 12s.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
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08-26-2011, 01:56 PM
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^^ Race both of your buddies and record. 
08-26-2011, 06:32 PM
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True, but they have a bit more torque, a fatter powerband, and a live axle which lets them plant the tires quite well. The new V6 Stangs can move and with a couple very simple bolt-ons, even more so. Strap on a set of slicks to a bonestock 11'+ V6 6MT Stang and it should easily see mid 13s. Add a set of 4.1 gears, tuner, headers, and catback and you're looking at low 13s, possibly 12s.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
Keep in mind Motor Trend got 13.7s@102mph out of a bonestock V6 6MT. Surely there will be owners with them that will see even quicker times on a nice track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_psJn...eature=related
08-26-2011, 06:39 PM
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Another impressive V6 stang. He is running 2.73's with a 6MT and simple bolt-ons with tune.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4fO_BgIHY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ4fO_BgIHY
08-26-2011, 10:47 PM
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And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
08-27-2011, 05:40 PM
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And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBSIx...eature=related
Those things are no joke with mods, but IMO, there's still something inherently wrong with buying a V6 pony car.
On principle, I'd get one of the V8 variants if I were in the market for a Stang. But I give Ford props for finally creating a base Stang that actually causes one to question whether or not to opt for a V8. (I recall back when the updated Fox body -- circa 1987 -- had either a 225hp V8 GT/LX ('5.0') or an 88hp 4 cylinder LX. 
...and it didn't get much better until the current generation.)
08-28-2011, 01:19 AM
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After flogging that 5.0 last month, I'm definitely toying with the idea of buying one after the Acura's paid off and then driving the Acura in the winter. I'll take a black/black GT Premium 6MT with Brembos, 3.73's, HID/security and comfort packages and the 19's thank you very much. It's a lot of car for $37k and change. 
08-28-2011, 01:39 AM
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On principle, I'd get one of the V8 variants if I were in the market for a Stang. But I give Ford props for finally creating a base Stang that actually causes one to question whether or not to opt for a V8. (I recall back when the updated Fox body -- circa 1987 -- had either a 225hp V8 GT/LX ('5.0') or an 88hp 4 cylinder LX. ...and it didn't get much better until the current generation.)
08-29-2011, 09:01 AM
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Burning Brakes
I'm actually quite intrigued by the new V6. Sure, I love the 5.0. Freaking amazing motor with lots of flexibility and the same can be said for the V6. In terms of handling, you can get a v6 equipped with the GT suspension. We already know the new GT can handle exceptionally well and the Boss even more so. I can only imagine what a lighter (especially in nose) V6 with a proper suspension could do. The GT is a steal for the money, but the V6 probably even more so. For the money, I don't think there's a car out there for the same base price and potential. A close second would be the new WRX, but even then it's a few grand more, gets worse mpgs, has a questionable 5MT, and some possible issues with the ring lands. 1 year from now, hardly used 6MT V6 Stangs will be super cheap.
Yeah, I know, it's not a 5.0, but I'd image a v6 Stang could be the auto-x killer in it's class and could be quite the sleeper. Low 13s seems really easy to obtain which for me is plenty plenty fast for a dual purpose daily driver. I've had a souped V8 before. It was damn fun, but after a while, you realize there's only so often you can use it on the street without getting in major trouble.
Yeah, I know, it's not a 5.0, but I'd image a v6 Stang could be the auto-x killer in it's class and could be quite the sleeper. Low 13s seems really easy to obtain which for me is plenty plenty fast for a dual purpose daily driver. I've had a souped V8 before. It was damn fun, but after a while, you realize there's only so often you can use it on the street without getting in major trouble.
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