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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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0 to 60 ??

How fast is the TL ?
0-60 manual vs auto
what about 0-1/4 mile ?

Do you know what is the breaking 60-0 in feet ?
Is there any different for A-spec ?

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:50 PM
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Rob - I'm gonna have to go out on a limb here and ask.... Have you noticed the search link here at Acurazine? The reason I ask is because, when you post a series of questions like this - that have been answered before, a lot of people are going to pile on and toast your fanny.

Do a few searches and you'll get your answers! Welcome to the forum and sorry about my sarcasm.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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0-60 8.3 seconds for the AT and 7.2 for the 6mt
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by shodog
0-60 8.3 seconds for the AT and 7.2 for the 6mt


Not even close.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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shodog, that's sarcasm, I hope.
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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It's true!

Originally Posted by shodog
0-60 8.3 seconds for the AT and 7.2 for the 6mt
This is correct when the TL is being used to tow a broken-down G35.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:53 AM
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He didn't ask for the best 0-06 times, just some 0-60 times which I am sure the TL could achieve
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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The lowest i have seen...
5.6 for the manual (C&D)
6.1 for the auto (MT)
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by shodog
He didn't ask for the best 0-06 times, just some 0-60 times which I am sure the TL could achieve

So I guess you could answer: one hour.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 04:14 AM
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I went to work yesterday and never even got to 60, but I'm pretty sure I did 0 to 45 in under 10 seconds a few times.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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what about 0-1/4 mile ?

Do you know what is the breaking 60-0 in feet ?
Is there any different for A-spec ?
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Not only is Acura search your friend, but so is google.... if you never heard of it, http://google.com

Here are your stats...

2004 Acura TL
0-60 mph, sec 6.0
1/4 mile 14.44 @ 98.17
Braking, 60-0, f t 141
Slalom, mph 62.5
Skidpad, g 0.77

2004 TL A- SPEC
0-60 mph, sec 5.7
1/4 mile 14.25 @ 97.81
Braking, 60-0, f t 119
Slalom, mph 66.1
Skidpad, g 0.83


Again, figures will vary from tester to tester.. this is from Motor Trend.
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Old Aug 11, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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Best quarter mile was also reported in Car and Driver (same article that showed a 5.6 0-60) It was 14.3 at 99 MPH.

Best 60-0 braking I've seen for a basic manual tranny was 115 feet (MotorWeek).
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 06:34 AM
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and good luck repeating those numbers... I have seen 6.3 for MT and 6.6 for AT. I am amazed how the numbers vary on this car but a 1/2 a second or more...
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey3c
and good luck repeating those numbers... I have seen 6.3 for MT and 6.6 for AT. I am amazed how the numbers vary on this car but a 1/2 a second or more...

They will vary on most cars... I remember when I bought my previous car (97 Eclipse GSX). I ran the car at Englishtown Raceway and went 14.4 in the 1/4 mile stock, which is 1/2 a second quicker than what any car magazine achieved.

Repeating performance numbers is going to be based on driver ability and track conditions.
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Old Aug 12, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TerminaderTL
This is correct when the TL is being used to tow a broken-down G35.
ROTFLMAO!!!

Good one!
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mickey3c
and good luck repeating those numbers... I have seen 6.3 for MT and 6.6 for AT. I am amazed how the numbers vary on this car but a 1/2 a second or more...
As has been pointed out, there are a LOT of variables to getting good times on a drag strip. But they boil down to four major areas: the car, the driver, the track, and the weather.

The car. As Road Rage has mentioned, newer cars tend not to get as good times as cars with some mileage on them. Most of the long term Car and Driver comparison tests bear this out with times and speeds a little better in cars after 30,000 miles.

The track. The condition of the asphault. Is there a concrete pad from the staging area to the first 100 feet? How slick is the area around the staging area?

The weather. Is it hot and humid or cool and dry? Cooler, drier air makes more horsepower and torque. But it has a negative reaction on traction.

The driver. The most variable of the factors. Have you ever watched MotorWeek when they do their drag strip tests (they run on 75 and 80.. I used to run on that track)? If the manner in which they shift that we see on TV is the same as what they do for their test results, no wonder their times are not all that good. I mean, they must spend maybe as much as a 1/3 of a second between shifts. The old adage; to win, you have to drive it like you hate it, holds true. Power shifting a TL would waste the shifter in no time and probably the tranny and the transaxle. Point is, MotorWeek doesn't even speed shift in their tests (at least the part they show on TV).

Car and Driver got the 5.6 0-60 in an A-Spec and reported it in their May '04 issue. So the tires and suspension may have been a help (a good leaver could eat up just about all of this difference if there really is any). However, a May issue report means the test was most likely done in the winter. Nice cool dry air.

BTW, MotorWeek's track test of the '04 TL managed a 0-60 of 6.3 seconds and a quarter mile of 14.8 seconds at 96 MPH. These times and this terminal speed tells me they didn't launch aggressively and most likely shifted slowly.

One more thing. If you're spending more than 1/10th of a second between gears while shfting, you need to learn how to shift for drag racing. Though as mentioned, I most definitely would NOT recommend this kind of shifting with the TL. You'll soon have a messed up shifter (our TL shifter are NO WHERE the strength of a quality American shifter - like Hurst for example), and you transmission is not about to take that kind of abuse for long. Not to mention a FWD transaxle.
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Old Aug 13, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by robsond
How fast is the TL ?
0-60 manual vs auto
what about 0-1/4 mile ?

Do you know what is the breaking 60-0 in feet ?
Is there any different for A-spec ?

Thanks
CR reported 6.4 sec for manual and 6.8 sec for automatic for two consecutive years.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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As Southern Boy alluded, driver/technique is important- even with the automatic. 6MT has LSD (limited slip differential) and VSA. 5AT has VSA.

VSA (if it is turned on) will cut fuel to the engine and even apply brakes if the wheels start spinning. Needless to say, that is not conducive to good accelleration times.

A factor he didn't mention is weight. Depending on the weight of the driver, test equipment, passenger (if any), and fuel- times can be very different. Our TL's are in the range of 12 pounds/HP.

So (making a long story short) a bantam weight driver with 2 gallons of gas in the tank could potentially cut his 0-60 time by .25 to .50 second over a heavy driver with a full tank of gas.

Even having windows up or down makes a small difference. Up is better.

And, of course, temperature and air pressure (elevation) make a difference. Cold/cool day at sea level being better than a hot day in Denver.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nikko
CR reported 6.4 sec for manual and 6.8 sec for automatic for two consecutive years.
CR can't drive. As I recall they also had a problem with Monteros tipping. Funny, I've done extensive off-roading in mine and I've never had a problem...nor did the government or ANYONE ELSE. If I couldn't get under 6 seconds with the 6MT TL, I'd go buy a Kia which is what CR should stick to testing. And toasters, of course.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Try to fight nice guys...
I have a 6MT with ASPEC, AEM and Comptech installation. I have done the 0-60 runs a few times and numerous 1/4 mile runs at my local track.

The best time so far are
0-60 in 5.8
1/4 in 14.2
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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To TheMainEvEnt;

That's an excellent E.T. for the quarter mile and for a TL in basically box stock condition.
Congratulations! Are you running at Elizabeth Town?

BTW. Love your sig picture.
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Old Aug 15, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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To TheMainEvEnt;

Forgot to ask. How does your TL hook up? Smoking the tires much? Your E.T. and 0-60 times would seem to indicate launch problems (minor, though), but good shifting and a strong mid and high range run.
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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I am confused ??

So how much faster is MT over AT ?
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Old Aug 16, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Figure at least 1/2 to 3/4's of a second in the 0-60 runs and and maybe closer to a full second in the quarter.. advantage to the manual.
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by robsond
I am confused ??

So how much faster is MT over AT ?
Depending on who is driving, around .5 seconds. Miss one gear though and that auto tranny is gonna smoke right by ya!
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by robsond
I am confused ??

So how much faster is MT over AT ?


this can vary by not only those factors aformentioned but also if your 6 speed has HP tires, brembos, so on

but about .4-.5 seconds
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
To TheMainEvEnt;

That's an excellent E.T. for the quarter mile and for a TL in basically box stock condition.
Congratulations! Are you running at Elizabeth Town?

BTW. Love your sig picture.
It's Englishtown Raceway Park
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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I just watched "Tuner-something" on the Speed channel. They took a 2000 Ford Mustang GT to mod.

They did a complete number on it, adding a super-charger, exhaust, intake, etc.

It dyno'd at 348 WHP!

It was a manual tranny which, IIRC, is a 5 speed.

Before the mods, they got 5.9 0-60.
After the mods, they got 5.1 0-60.

It just amazes me that our luxury, FWD Japanese V6's are even playing in that ball-park.

I have been beaten by a 2005 Mustang GT, manual tranny- but not by much- and he got a hole shot because I didn't realize he wanted to get it on. He barely was able to pull into my lane safely in front of me (his was ending) at about 70MPH.

I don't mind losing those kind of races. It's like being knocked out by Mike Tyson. No shame there!

BTW: He was shocked!
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Old Aug 17, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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