PAWS Experience
#1
PAWS Experience
How's everyone's experience with PAWS? Do you feel it while driving?
I sort of can feel it sometimes but most of time I can't.
I think Acura should consider adding PAWS info/status on the LCD screen.
I sort of can feel it sometimes but most of time I can't.
I think Acura should consider adding PAWS info/status on the LCD screen.
#2
My experience with P-AWS has been outstanding, especially in the twisty's.. Depending on your speed and how aggressive your maneuvers are, will depend on how much you will feel P-AWS assisting with the turns. I have sometimes felt it assisting during U-Turns as they are tighter. I see the vehicles behind me following my U-Turn and see how much tighter my turn is..
If get the opportunity and your on the east coast take a ride down "Blue Ridge Parkway" thru VA & NC, 450 miles of great scenery and it's god's road for M/C's and RLX's, S2000's etc.
Just stay off "Tail of the Dragon" that is 319 turns in 11 miles...
I'm not a fan of adding any more info to the screens as it will tend to add more distraction...
If get the opportunity and your on the east coast take a ride down "Blue Ridge Parkway" thru VA & NC, 450 miles of great scenery and it's god's road for M/C's and RLX's, S2000's etc.
Just stay off "Tail of the Dragon" that is 319 turns in 11 miles...
I'm not a fan of adding any more info to the screens as it will tend to add more distraction...
Last edited by victorber; 08-01-2013 at 01:30 PM.
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#3
I think P-AWS is much more accessible in everyday driving. I've had three SH-AWD Acuras and I find P-AWS pushes up the driving fun factor big time because I experience it in most driving situations. I only experienced the capabilities of SH-AWD in bad weather or when I pushed the car to the limits. I hope the new SH-SHAWD system combines the best of both worlds. I was thinking about waiting but I'm glad I didn't. I really like the system.
#4
echoing all the same comments here. you pretty much feel it under almost all conditions. it really makes the "driving" factor that much more of an experience in every day driving. I drive 17 miles to and from work on windy roads with speed limits anywhere from 35-55 mph. The P-AWS combined with the LKAS is amazing. Add to it the ACC and literally (and I do mean literally) the car drives itself for most of my trip to and from work. It's pretty amazing.
#5
I have the RLX Advances with ACC and was wondering if the PAWS kicks-in when the ACC is slowing down the car when the car in front of you slows down for a red light or stop sign - And at what point does the "Tail Lights" come on when the RLX starts to slow down? Thanks - Mike Landon
#6
^^ Mike2landon
I understand that P-AWS will toe-in both wheels to assist in quicker stops. I'm not sure of the degree's of toe-in or if it the computer adjusts to the amount of de-acceleration.
I have had one opportunity to see how quickly the system helped bleed off my speed, hopefully I hope not to have to duplicate it again..
I like you am not sure if the brake lights come on when in ACC and the car starts slowing down, the system works altho I wish it was a little smoother on the de-accell and quicker on the Accell. I suppose it must be reading the distance your CMBS distance is set for???
I understand that P-AWS will toe-in both wheels to assist in quicker stops. I'm not sure of the degree's of toe-in or if it the computer adjusts to the amount of de-acceleration.
I have had one opportunity to see how quickly the system helped bleed off my speed, hopefully I hope not to have to duplicate it again..
I like you am not sure if the brake lights come on when in ACC and the car starts slowing down, the system works altho I wish it was a little smoother on the de-accell and quicker on the Accell. I suppose it must be reading the distance your CMBS distance is set for???
Last edited by victorber; 08-22-2013 at 06:21 PM.
#7
PAW-S can provide up to 1.8 degrees of toe change to each rear wheel. As I recall from our training, someone asked about excessive tire wear if the tires are always toe'd in under braking. They said that the don't toe-in under 'normal' braking. Since ACC provides slow and steady stops in normal usage, I would suspect there is no toe-in under these conditions.
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There is already an accelerometer in the car for the stability control so they could be tapping this for data. Another possibility is the sensor for brake force distribution could send a signal to toe-in. Either way, I think it takes some pretty heavy braking to signal the rears to toe in and this is probably a good thing from a tire wear perspective.
#10
Good to hear that the PAWS can be felt early on. My last Acura was an '05 RL and I could only feel the SH-AWD kicking in if I really caned the car around a corner.
Also good to see the RLX owners loving their cars. I really enjoyed my '99 TL, '04 TL and '05 RL and would like to see Acura back in the game.
Also good to see the RLX owners loving their cars. I really enjoyed my '99 TL, '04 TL and '05 RL and would like to see Acura back in the game.
#11
Thanks for the Info
Let me preface this by saying that I do not know much about the mechanics of cars: I always thought 1.8 degrees sounded too small to make a difference but I guess not. I also noticed the GS does 1.5 degrees so I guess it does not take much.
I assume that this will show up in other Acura vehicles (altho the FWD MDX not having it makes me wonder) but my main question is will the SH-SH-AWD get it? Now that the MDX has been launched I was hoping we would start getting info on this vehicle bu so far, no .........
I assume that this will show up in other Acura vehicles (altho the FWD MDX not having it makes me wonder) but my main question is will the SH-SH-AWD get it? Now that the MDX has been launched I was hoping we would start getting info on this vehicle bu so far, no .........
#12
Let me preface this by saying that I do not know much about the mechanics of cars: I always thought 1.8 degrees sounded too small to make a difference but I guess not. I also noticed the GS does 1.5 degrees so I guess it does not take much.
I assume that this will show up in other Acura vehicles (altho the FWD MDX not having it makes me wonder) but my main question is will the SH-SH-AWD get it? Now that the MDX has been launched I was hoping we would start getting info on this vehicle bu so far, no .........
I assume that this will show up in other Acura vehicles (altho the FWD MDX not having it makes me wonder) but my main question is will the SH-SH-AWD get it? Now that the MDX has been launched I was hoping we would start getting info on this vehicle bu so far, no .........
I would guess that the SH-SH-AWD version will not get it. My reason for that assumption is that P-AWS is supposed to compensate for the understeer characteristics of a nose heavy FWD car. That was also the intention of the active torque vectoring of SH-AWD in the 2nd gen RL. SH-AWD would over drive the outside wheel to make the read end swing out a bit more. I say active because there are other torque vectoring systems that try to gain this effect by braking the inside wheel. It's a cheaper way of doing it since you don't need the sophisticated transfer case and rear differential that existed in the RL, MDX, TL and 1st gen RDX. The RL actually had a more sophisticated system that would vary the torque whereas in the MDX, RDX and I think TL it was fixed.
The SH-SH-AWD system in the RLX, as we all know, accomplishes this by using an electric motor (instead of a mechanical differential) on the rear wheel to overdrive the outside wheel.
As a result I would think putting P-AWS and SH-SH-AWD on a car would be somewhat redundant. The only thing you might be missing with SH-SH-AWD is the toe-it that P-AWS gives you under heavy braking.
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