Vibration at all speeds
Vibration at all speeds
Good morning everyone! I have a 2022 RDX A-Spec that I love. It's had a nagging problem though and I can't see to find an existing thread on this, so I figured I'd ask in a new thread.
At about 2500 miles, I noticed that the car was shaking. I could feel and see the bottom of my pant leg vibrating while driving anywhere between 40-80mph. Putting my hand on the arm rest above the storage compartment between the seats, I could clearly feel the shake. I made an appointment, drove the car with a tech who could feel the vibration in the passenger seat, and in the arm rest of the center console. 2 hours later I had two brand new rear tires on the car because "No matter what I did, I couldn't get them to balance. I put new tires on the rims and was able to balance them without a problem, so you should be all set". The car had 3000 miles on it when the rear tires were replaced, which did *greatly* reduce, but not completely eliminate the vibration. I chalked up the remaining vibration to the fact that the RDX A-Spec has heavy rims and tires that allow a lot of road imperfections to make it into the cabin.
I'm now at 5,600 miles, and the vibration is back. It isn't as bad as it was at 3000 miles when the tires were replaced. It's very similar to how it was when the car was at 2500 miles. Today I drove a company car to an offsite meeting, and it was smooth with no vibrations. Something is clearly wrong with my RDX. I understand it isn't going to be silky smoother like a cloud because it's a stiff suspension and the tires/rims are heavy. But I shouldn't always have a vibration in a brand new car with 5600 miles on it.
The vibration can clearly be felt on top of the arm rest of the center console's storage area. I can also feel the cloth at the end of my pant legs vibrating while driving. The driver's seat is vibrating with the rest of the car. I put my phone on my quad this morning and drove, you can can clearly see the reflection off the phone's screen vibrating. So... I'm back to the car having a vibration at all speeds 40-80mph (the vibration intensifies with speed).
It appears that the rear tires getting lumps or wear spots or something at 2500 miles and being replaced at 3000 miles was a symptom of the problem, and not the problem itself. I'm at 2600 miles since the tires were replaced, and the issue has returned and is getting more noticeable as I put more miles on the car. I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel - It's mostly felt in the seats, floor, and can easily be felt by placing your hand on the armrest over the storage area in the center console between the seats.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'd like to avoid having to take several trips to the dealership (it's a 92 mile round trip) to get this fixed, but I would like to get a permanent fix since the rear tire replacement at 3000 miles only appears to have "fixed" the issue for a second 3000 miles. Something else must be wrong, and I'd love to hear ideas before I schedule service again. Thank you all in advance!
At about 2500 miles, I noticed that the car was shaking. I could feel and see the bottom of my pant leg vibrating while driving anywhere between 40-80mph. Putting my hand on the arm rest above the storage compartment between the seats, I could clearly feel the shake. I made an appointment, drove the car with a tech who could feel the vibration in the passenger seat, and in the arm rest of the center console. 2 hours later I had two brand new rear tires on the car because "No matter what I did, I couldn't get them to balance. I put new tires on the rims and was able to balance them without a problem, so you should be all set". The car had 3000 miles on it when the rear tires were replaced, which did *greatly* reduce, but not completely eliminate the vibration. I chalked up the remaining vibration to the fact that the RDX A-Spec has heavy rims and tires that allow a lot of road imperfections to make it into the cabin.
I'm now at 5,600 miles, and the vibration is back. It isn't as bad as it was at 3000 miles when the tires were replaced. It's very similar to how it was when the car was at 2500 miles. Today I drove a company car to an offsite meeting, and it was smooth with no vibrations. Something is clearly wrong with my RDX. I understand it isn't going to be silky smoother like a cloud because it's a stiff suspension and the tires/rims are heavy. But I shouldn't always have a vibration in a brand new car with 5600 miles on it.
The vibration can clearly be felt on top of the arm rest of the center console's storage area. I can also feel the cloth at the end of my pant legs vibrating while driving. The driver's seat is vibrating with the rest of the car. I put my phone on my quad this morning and drove, you can can clearly see the reflection off the phone's screen vibrating. So... I'm back to the car having a vibration at all speeds 40-80mph (the vibration intensifies with speed).
It appears that the rear tires getting lumps or wear spots or something at 2500 miles and being replaced at 3000 miles was a symptom of the problem, and not the problem itself. I'm at 2600 miles since the tires were replaced, and the issue has returned and is getting more noticeable as I put more miles on the car. I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel - It's mostly felt in the seats, floor, and can easily be felt by placing your hand on the armrest over the storage area in the center console between the seats.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'd like to avoid having to take several trips to the dealership (it's a 92 mile round trip) to get this fixed, but I would like to get a permanent fix since the rear tire replacement at 3000 miles only appears to have "fixed" the issue for a second 3000 miles. Something else must be wrong, and I'd love to hear ideas before I schedule service again. Thank you all in advance!
Last edited by DKPatriots; Oct 24, 2022 at 08:51 AM.
Good morning everyone! I have a 2022 RDX A-Spec that I love. It's had a nagging problem though and I can't see to find an existing thread on this, so I figured I'd ask in a new thread.
At about 2500 miles, I noticed that the car was shaking. I could feel and see the bottom of my pant leg vibrating while driving anywhere between 40-80mph. Putting my hand on the arm rest above the storage compartment between the seats, I could clearly feel the shake. I made an appointment, drove the car with a tech who could feel the vibration in the passenger seat, and in the arm rest of the center console. 2 hours later I had two brand new rear tires on the car because "No matter what I did, I couldn't get them to balance. I put new tires on the rims and was able to balance them without a problem, so you should be all set". The car had 3000 miles on it when the rear tires were replaced, which did *greatly* reduce, but not completely eliminate the vibration. I chalked up the remaining vibration to the fact that the RDX A-Spec has heavy rims and tires that allow a lot of road imperfections to make it into the cabin.
I'm now at 5,600 miles, and the vibration is back. It isn't as bad as it was at 3000 miles when the tires were replaced. It's very similar to how it was when the car was at 2500 miles. Today I drove a company car to an offsite meeting, and it was smooth with no vibrations. Something is clearly wrong with my RDX. I understand it isn't going to be silky smoother like a cloud because it's a stiff suspension and the tires/rims are heavy. But I shouldn't always have a vibration in a brand new car with 5600 miles on it.
The vibration can clearly be felt on top of the arm rest of the center console's storage area. I can also feel the cloth at the end of my pant legs vibrating while driving. The driver's seat is vibrating with the rest of the car. I put my phone on my quad this morning and drove, you can can clearly see the reflection off the phone's screen vibrating. So... I'm back to the car having a vibration at all speeds 40-80mph (the vibration intensifies with speed).
It appears that the rear tires getting lumps or wear spots or something at 2500 miles and being replaced at 3000 miles was a symptom of the problem, and not the problem itself. I'm at 2600 miles since the tires were replaced, and the issue has returned and is getting more noticeable as I put more miles on the car. I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel - It's mostly felt in the seats, floor, and can easily be felt by placing your hand on the armrest over the storage area in the center console between the seats.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'd like to avoid having to take several trips to the dealership (it's a 92 mile round trip) to get this fixed, but I would like to get a permanent fix since the rear tire replacement at 3000 miles only appears to have "fixed" the issue for a second 3000 miles. Something else must be wrong, and I'd love to hear ideas before I schedule service again. Thank you all in advance!
At about 2500 miles, I noticed that the car was shaking. I could feel and see the bottom of my pant leg vibrating while driving anywhere between 40-80mph. Putting my hand on the arm rest above the storage compartment between the seats, I could clearly feel the shake. I made an appointment, drove the car with a tech who could feel the vibration in the passenger seat, and in the arm rest of the center console. 2 hours later I had two brand new rear tires on the car because "No matter what I did, I couldn't get them to balance. I put new tires on the rims and was able to balance them without a problem, so you should be all set". The car had 3000 miles on it when the rear tires were replaced, which did *greatly* reduce, but not completely eliminate the vibration. I chalked up the remaining vibration to the fact that the RDX A-Spec has heavy rims and tires that allow a lot of road imperfections to make it into the cabin.
I'm now at 5,600 miles, and the vibration is back. It isn't as bad as it was at 3000 miles when the tires were replaced. It's very similar to how it was when the car was at 2500 miles. Today I drove a company car to an offsite meeting, and it was smooth with no vibrations. Something is clearly wrong with my RDX. I understand it isn't going to be silky smoother like a cloud because it's a stiff suspension and the tires/rims are heavy. But I shouldn't always have a vibration in a brand new car with 5600 miles on it.
The vibration can clearly be felt on top of the arm rest of the center console's storage area. I can also feel the cloth at the end of my pant legs vibrating while driving. The driver's seat is vibrating with the rest of the car. I put my phone on my quad this morning and drove, you can can clearly see the reflection off the phone's screen vibrating. So... I'm back to the car having a vibration at all speeds 40-80mph (the vibration intensifies with speed).
It appears that the rear tires getting lumps or wear spots or something at 2500 miles and being replaced at 3000 miles was a symptom of the problem, and not the problem itself. I'm at 2600 miles since the tires were replaced, and the issue has returned and is getting more noticeable as I put more miles on the car. I don't feel much vibration in the steering wheel - It's mostly felt in the seats, floor, and can easily be felt by placing your hand on the armrest over the storage area in the center console between the seats.
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! I'd like to avoid having to take several trips to the dealership (it's a 92 mile round trip) to get this fixed, but I would like to get a permanent fix since the rear tire replacement at 3000 miles only appears to have "fixed" the issue for a second 3000 miles. Something else must be wrong, and I'd love to hear ideas before I schedule service again. Thank you all in advance!
No. When the tires rear tires got replaced at 3000 miles, which mostly remedied the situation. An alignment was not done. Just a balance of all four tires, while resulted in the two rear tires not being able to be balanced, and why they were replaced.
I do plan to ask the dealership to balance the tires again and do an alignment when I make my appointment. I'm looking for other things that I should ask them check as well.
I do plan to ask the dealership to balance the tires again and do an alignment when I make my appointment. I'm looking for other things that I should ask them check as well.
1. Check to see if the rear rims are bent. I've never hit anything with the car, and the rims have never touched a curb. If one of the rear rims came from the factory bent, that would explain the vibrations, why they went away with new tires being installed since the originals had odd wear to them, and why the issue returned again after the same number of miles have passed.
2. Check the Rear suspension. A bad strut could be the culprit. If a tire is bouncing slightly then over time it will wear incorrectly which emphasizes the bounce / vibration.
3. Check the rear diff. An issue there would explain the vibration and irregular wear on the tires as well.
4. Do a balance and an alignment. I am putting this last because I don't want them to just do this then give the car back. Something else must be the problem since it's come back twice since I bought the car, at the same mileage intervals, and the car is brand new.
Anything else you think I should specifically ask them to look at?
I agree that since I'm not feeling much vibration in the wheel, the issue is highly likely to be originating in the rear of the vehicle. I'm not a mechanic... but I've compiled a short list of things that I'm going to ask them to check...
1. Check to see if the rear rims are bent. I've never hit anything with the car, and the rims have never touched a curb. If one of the rear rims came from the factory bent, that would explain the vibrations, why they went away with new tires being installed since the originals had odd wear to them, and why the issue returned again after the same number of miles have passed.
2. Check the Rear suspension. A bad strut could be the culprit. If a tire is bouncing slightly then over time it will wear incorrectly which emphasizes the bounce / vibration.
3. Check the rear diff. An issue there would explain the vibration and irregular wear on the tires as well.
4. Do a balance and an alignment. I am putting this last because I don't want them to just do this then give the car back. Something else must be the problem since it's come back twice since I bought the car, at the same mileage intervals, and the car is brand new.
Anything else you think I should specifically ask them to look at?
1. Check to see if the rear rims are bent. I've never hit anything with the car, and the rims have never touched a curb. If one of the rear rims came from the factory bent, that would explain the vibrations, why they went away with new tires being installed since the originals had odd wear to them, and why the issue returned again after the same number of miles have passed.
2. Check the Rear suspension. A bad strut could be the culprit. If a tire is bouncing slightly then over time it will wear incorrectly which emphasizes the bounce / vibration.
3. Check the rear diff. An issue there would explain the vibration and irregular wear on the tires as well.
4. Do a balance and an alignment. I am putting this last because I don't want them to just do this then give the car back. Something else must be the problem since it's come back twice since I bought the car, at the same mileage intervals, and the car is brand new.
Anything else you think I should specifically ask them to look at?
The fact that the tech said he had an impossible time balancing the wheel/tire the first time would be a hint for me. It could have been a defective tire, but now that the issue has returned makes me think there's an issue with the wheel rather than the tire. The meaty tread of the new tire likely just masked the problem. The wheel was likely balanced "well enough" and sent out. If this is the case, they might turn around and say that you must have hit something and made the wheel out-of-round. I wouldn't touch it and go straight back to the dealer.
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The fact that the tech said he had an impossible time balancing the wheel/tire the first time would be a hint for me. It could have been a defective tire, but now that the issue has returned makes me think there's an issue with the wheel rather than the tire. The meaty tread of the new tire likely just masked the problem. The wheel was likely balanced "well enough" and sent out. If this is the case, they might turn around and say that you must have hit something and made the wheel out-of-round. I wouldn't touch it and go straight back to the dealer.
I've never hit anything with my car, but I guess I can't "prove" that to the dealership or Acura. The rims are all still scratch and ding free because I've never hit anything or clipped a curb, but that isn't really "proof" that I've never hit anything.
I put a list in a response above saying all of the things I want the dealer to check, and checking to ensure rear rims are round and straight is number one on that list. Thanks for you response!
Update! I used an accelerometer to measure and visualize the vibration.
Here is the vibration on top of the arm rest between the seats at 55mph on a freshly paved highway.
Here is the vibration on the passenger seat at 55mph on the same freshly paved highway.
No arguing with those pictures. There is a very obvious rhythmic vibration in the car.
Here is the vibration on top of the arm rest between the seats at 55mph on a freshly paved highway.
Here is the vibration on the passenger seat at 55mph on the same freshly paved highway.
No arguing with those pictures. There is a very obvious rhythmic vibration in the car.
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