Back to the Garmin
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Back to the Garmin
My wife is back to her Garmin. Refuses to use the Nav system. She says typing in address is much slower than her Garmin. No ability to name Favorites. Using voice for addresses seems to be hit or miss. Takes too many seconds for the system to be ready for you to speak. The turn directions only say left or right but not the name of the street. No Detour button. The Nav refused to calculate a new route when she took a known route to avoid traffic. Another third parties first attempt at a Nav system and wanting or needing to be different. Broke my own rule about never buying the first production year of a new model. Having the Cargo Cover as an option on a 40+K car was not expected. We assumed it had one, but we nor the sales person checked that during the demo. Too soon but not sure I'm impressed with the MPG.
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I've used several Navs newer vehicles. Namely Lexus and BMW. They can't touch Google Maps. The only reason I prefer cars with the NAV is because the screen is larger and incorporates other things like the stereo and climate control. Otherwise, I largely find the Nav useless. It appears the same applies to the new RDX.
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maybe it's because I grew up poor and DONT have ANY expectations for ANY vehicle.
Even if the vehicle costs over $100k, there STILL will be shortcomings.
ALL vehicles have compromises, especially the electronics. (since the auto manufacturer and suppliers have to design a system YEARS before it actually goes into service...which means, the electronics are ALREADY behind when the car debuts. )
Even if the vehicle costs over $100k, there STILL will be shortcomings.
ALL vehicles have compromises, especially the electronics. (since the auto manufacturer and suppliers have to design a system YEARS before it actually goes into service...which means, the electronics are ALREADY behind when the car debuts. )
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Disagree. Bench marking the Garmin functionality when designing a Nav system would seem basic? I understand a touch screen is probably a long term reliability issues. Not being able to Name a Favorite is a fundamental lack of functionality. I can't image that all or most of these issues would not be found with a proper focus group. The No Detour function and lack of street name with the turns are all programming functionality. Its clear programmed to talk more, but isn't any good without basic info. By the way why no digital speedo if you don't have Heads Up especially when they programmed a Minimal screen with nothing? Expected more from Acura and Honda. Some please tell me Auto Android will solve most of these issues.
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All of these things should have been apparent with some prior research and a thorough test drive.
Since all cars have compromises, you need to decide your priorities and your “must haves”. I know I was a PITA to the first salesman I met, but I still walked all around the car asking questions, and deciding which areas needed further research.
No digital speedo? If that was important, how did you not know this?
Since all cars have compromises, you need to decide your priorities and your “must haves”. I know I was a PITA to the first salesman I met, but I still walked all around the car asking questions, and deciding which areas needed further research.
No digital speedo? If that was important, how did you not know this?
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Here's my example:
When I purchased my 2014 RDX, it had never occurred to me that the built-in NAV couldn't be accessed while the vehicle was moving. (This was my first "built-in"- also coming from a trusty old Garmin.) It also didn't occur to me that the voice recognition was frustratingly less than useless. I enjoy having a big screen in the middle of the dash, but on trips, Mrs. DAVISinLA finds nearby restaurants and coffee stops with her iPhone. And entering a new address "on the fly" is simply impossible.
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I tried this going to my local movies yesterday just to test navigation, even though I knew how to get there. I used voice commands - no results. Then I went to the menu and searched under the entertainment/theater category. My local theater was the second result (because there is another theater even closer I don't go to). The name was completely different from what it's normally called, but I was able to find it and get directions within 15 seconds.
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With some use, I found the on-board Nav to not suck as much as I thought. Still prefer Waze and Google Maps if I MUST actually navigate through traffic.
Traffic info was better in Naples, that it is here in the Hudson Valley. I think it is because there are more, newer high-end cars using HERE.
Traffic info was better in Naples, that it is here in the Hudson Valley. I think it is because there are more, newer high-end cars using HERE.
#11
The RDX Nav does have a detour button. When a route is planned and you are following it, touch the bottom of the pad/screen and a detour option pops up. Works great for me. I also enter an address into my phone and then send it to the car rather than type on the Nav. It's really quick and simple.
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All of these things should have been apparent with some prior research and a thorough test drive.
Since all cars have compromises, you need to decide your priorities and your “must haves”. I know I was a PITA to the first salesman I met, but I still walked all around the car asking questions, and deciding which areas needed further research.
No digital speedo? If that was important, how did you not know this?
Since all cars have compromises, you need to decide your priorities and your “must haves”. I know I was a PITA to the first salesman I met, but I still walked all around the car asking questions, and deciding which areas needed further research.
No digital speedo? If that was important, how did you not know this?
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My wife is back to her Garmin. Refuses to use the Nav system. She says typing in address is much slower than her Garmin. No ability to name Favorites. Using voice for addresses seems to be hit or miss. Takes too many seconds for the system to be ready for you to speak. The turn directions only say left or right but not the name of the street. No Detour button. The Nav refused to calculate a new route when she took a known route to avoid traffic. Another third parties first attempt at a Nav system and wanting or needing to be different. Broke my own rule about never buying the first production year of a new model. Having the Cargo Cover as an option on a 40+K car was not expected. We assumed it had one, but we nor the sales person checked that during the demo. Too soon but not sure I'm impressed with the MPG.
Gonna have to respectfully disagree. While "must haves" can easily be checked, there is no way to test every facet of the vehicle on a test drive.
Here's my example:
When I purchased my 2014 RDX, it had never occurred to me that the built-in NAV couldn't be accessed while the vehicle was moving. (This was my first "built-in"- also coming from a trusty old Garmin.) It also didn't occur to me that the voice recognition was frustratingly less than useless. I enjoy having a big screen in the middle of the dash, but on trips, Mrs. DAVISinLA finds nearby restaurants and coffee stops with her iPhone. And entering a new address "on the fly" is simply impossible.
Here's my example:
When I purchased my 2014 RDX, it had never occurred to me that the built-in NAV couldn't be accessed while the vehicle was moving. (This was my first "built-in"- also coming from a trusty old Garmin.) It also didn't occur to me that the voice recognition was frustratingly less than useless. I enjoy having a big screen in the middle of the dash, but on trips, Mrs. DAVISinLA finds nearby restaurants and coffee stops with her iPhone. And entering a new address "on the fly" is simply impossible.
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Are you still talking about the 2014?
I tried this going to my local movies yesterday just to test navigation, even though I knew how to get there. I used voice commands - no results. Then I went to the menu and searched under the entertainment/theater category. My local theater was the second result (because there is another theater even closer I don't go to). The name was completely different from what it's normally called, but I was able to find it and get directions within 15 seconds.
I tried this going to my local movies yesterday just to test navigation, even though I knew how to get there. I used voice commands - no results. Then I went to the menu and searched under the entertainment/theater category. My local theater was the second result (because there is another theater even closer I don't go to). The name was completely different from what it's normally called, but I was able to find it and get directions within 15 seconds.
Were you able to access the menu while the vehicle was moving?
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Yes, I was referring to the 2014. The nearest I can figure is that the NAV in my vehicle doesn't understand English. That, combined with the fact that input is not possible while the vehicle is in motion, renders it useless unless an address had been entered - and selected - before driving.
Were you able to access the menu while the vehicle was moving?
Were you able to access the menu while the vehicle was moving?
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On my 15 I can do almost anything NAV related with voice commands, including entering addresses while the car is moving. It takes longer and requires a bunch of voice steps, but easy to do after some practice. Just need to make sure to pronounce everything very clearly.
So these Nav foibles are nothing new for Acura/Honda, sadly.
Now I think Acura is betting the farm on Google Maps via AA or CarPlay, but maybe they are finding out that it's unwise to make your business dependent on someone else's product.
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If I used the vehicle as a sales rep to make visits to clients I would find the lack of ability to put a meaningful name on an address as a very significant shortcoming. It does seem like a simple fix though to be able to add a name field to a destination record and use it in the "Find" function or the voice function to navigate to the corresponding address. The logic is already there for the "HOME" destination.
#20
I miss my trusty Garmin. I have used Garmin's for longer than I remember as I started with their simple hand held units a few decades back when I was still flying. My most recent car, a 2017 CR-V Touring used a lovely Garmin just like my 7" stand alone unit I had used on my 2012 CR-V.
Things I miss: Intersection view...so handy Lane assist....wonderful aid ....quick access to functions like detour, "along the way", and so much more. And, Garmin's live traffic (which is free forever) And how can I forget: Honda gave you five years of free updates with the Garmin.
Odd things about this Acura GPS: On categories I don't find "Lodging". I mean this is one commonly used function, especially for those of us who travel in this car. Really...I can find the local McDonald's but not a hotel? Also, it was vastly quicker and easier to move around on the Garmin. I admit that some of that was me being use to the Garmin after many years of use, but still!
My wife said it best: When you pay more for the car you expect a better nav system than your cheaper car had...not a worse one.
Any, just so this isn't a bitch fest, I am getting more use to this system and am making it do more and more but that does not change the simple fact that the lower priced Honda CR-V made in the same factory has a superior Nav system....AND works with Android Auto, WAZE, etc. This RDX tech is a step backwards in many ways. BUT, I love the car for its strengths and have no regrets. I just set my Garmin up on the dash when I travel!
Things I miss: Intersection view...so handy Lane assist....wonderful aid ....quick access to functions like detour, "along the way", and so much more. And, Garmin's live traffic (which is free forever) And how can I forget: Honda gave you five years of free updates with the Garmin.
Odd things about this Acura GPS: On categories I don't find "Lodging". I mean this is one commonly used function, especially for those of us who travel in this car. Really...I can find the local McDonald's but not a hotel? Also, it was vastly quicker and easier to move around on the Garmin. I admit that some of that was me being use to the Garmin after many years of use, but still!
My wife said it best: When you pay more for the car you expect a better nav system than your cheaper car had...not a worse one.
Any, just so this isn't a bitch fest, I am getting more use to this system and am making it do more and more but that does not change the simple fact that the lower priced Honda CR-V made in the same factory has a superior Nav system....AND works with Android Auto, WAZE, etc. This RDX tech is a step backwards in many ways. BUT, I love the car for its strengths and have no regrets. I just set my Garmin up on the dash when I travel!
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