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TxLady 07-08-2018 11:55 AM

Post actual MPG on your new RDX
 
What MPG have you been getting on your 2019 RDX? Reports have been coming in much less than the sticker is showing. Please add your experience (MPG / driving mode/ and MPH, etc.) This could be a great fact finding thread. Thanks.

The estimated mpg shown on stickers varies for FWD:

Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)24 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)22 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)28 (Est)

The estimated MPG for AWD is:
Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)24 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)22 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)28 (Est)

Stew4HD 07-08-2018 12:10 PM

After 2 weeks, my average is 24

pnoi521 07-08-2018 02:42 PM

I’m averaging 19 after 3 weeks- all city driving. Stew how are you getting 24? Tell me your secrets lol

Dizzyg12 07-08-2018 03:06 PM

11.1 but haven’t really left a 10 mile radius of my house in the first 4 days of ownership. I have a full week of work travel coming so I’ll know after this week what a full tank will do.

Stew4HD 07-08-2018 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by pnoi521 (Post 16260626)
I’m averaging 19 after 3 weeks- all city driving. Stew how are you getting 24? Tell me your secrets lol

Comfort mode and mostly freeway driving though I am averaging roughly 70-75 on the freeway

TxLady 07-08-2018 03:29 PM

Wow! That’s a 5 mpg spread. Are y’all driving in comfort, sport or sport+? (If you don’t mind sharing). Thanks!

MTD 07-08-2018 04:06 PM

Ive onl;y had my SHAWD A-Spec for about 5 days, so its hardly broken in, but getting about 19mpg all-city in Sport and + modes.

pnoi521 07-08-2018 04:07 PM

I was getting 18 in Sport; now 19-19.6-19.9 in comfort.

TxLady 07-08-2018 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by pnoi521 (Post 16260648)
I was getting 18 in Sport; now 19-19.6-19.9 in comfort.

I wonder if elevation has anything to do with the variance in mpg...

I started this thread because we're planning to get an Advance Sh-Awd as soon as one becomes available in the color we want in our area. The Sh-Awd seems to be a rarity here (in Texas). Kinda weird since our hill country roads which are heavily populated with wineries and hills (albeit a mini version) are as winding and fun to drive on as those beautiful mountain roads in Central California (grew up there).

MI-RDX 07-08-2018 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by TxLady (Post 16260661)
I wonder if elevation has anything to do with the variance in mpg.....

It can - but I'm sure the driver and conditions have more impact.

FWIW Alex on Autos averaged 22.5 in their testing - and I'm sure they weren't driving for economy.

Skip to 17:20 in this video:

Colorado Guy AF Ret. 07-08-2018 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by TxLady (Post 16260661)
I wonder if elevation has anything to do with the variance in mpg...

I started this thread because we're planning to get an Advance Sh-Awd as soon as one becomes available in the color we want in our area. The Sh-Awd seems to be a rarity here (in Texas). Kinda weird since our hill country roads which are heavily populated with wineries and hills (albeit a mini version) are as winding and fun to drive on as those beautiful mountain roads in Central California (grew up there).

Actually it can IF you put your foot in to the throttle more than most. I live at the 6,200 ft level. But, with my wife's "foot" she just got 20.1 mpg in town driving. I have no highway miles on it. So, with just over 400 miles
on it, that's not bad. When I drive it, which hasn't been much, I can watch the on board computer for fuel mileage start dropping! LOL! Gee, I wonder if it's my heavy foot? Oh yeah, This thing is quick and fun to drive.
The fuel mileage at 20.1 was figured doing the math, not looking at what the computer says. It's been about .4 lower.

Fuel mileage in town just might equal what our Gen 2's got, which was a consistent 22 mpg. But, the '19 RDX will NOT get the well over 30+ I got with the V6's. It's just the nature of the beast with this 272 hp, turbo 4.
So, fuel mileage average will not be what my V6's got. Always makes me wonder WHY...why Acura did you go to this engine?? Certainly can't claim better economy...although they seem to want to use those words....if
you have been a long time owner of Gen 2 RDX's....and I've had 3, then we know the truth.

Dave48103 07-08-2018 09:15 PM

I’m getting 24mpg with about 75% city / 25% highway in comfort and sport mode

TLMDXRDX 07-09-2018 11:29 AM

I am curious what some are getting who do mainly city driving. I do 95% city driving and have gotten around 15.5 MPG on my 2010 MDX which was rated 16 for the city. I am hoping to get at least 20 MPG on the new RDX.

TxLady 07-09-2018 12:00 PM

It might help others to know what mode you’re driving in...comfort, sports, sports+

Meto 07-09-2018 12:10 PM

In comfort mode combining city and highway I am getting around 23

tobey457 07-10-2018 04:20 PM

Knowing AWD vs FWD would also help!

Outfitter 07-10-2018 05:19 PM

At 1650 miles on our FWD Tech the wife is at 25.2 mpg in mostly city driving and using comfort setting. I only drive it on weekends and it does drop a bit for me.

Dizzyg12 07-10-2018 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by Outfitter (Post 16261896)
At 1650 miles on our FWD Tech the wife is at 25.2 mpg in mostly city driving and using comfort setting. I only drive it on weekends and it does drop a bit for me.

Well....there can be only one explanation:

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...0a146a7ea.jpeg

Dizzyg12 07-10-2018 07:27 PM

I’m still on my first tank and about 300 Total miles. mostly driving the suburban assault missions. I’m getting roughly 16.5 mpg in comfort.

Outfitter 07-10-2018 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Dizzyg12 (Post 16261957)


Well....there can be only one explanation:

But, but , but, I only drive it to church on Sundays.....

Outfitter 07-10-2018 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by Dizzyg12 (Post 16261957)


Well....there can be only one explanation:

But, but , but, I only drive it to church on Sundays..... :thumbsup:

TxLady 07-10-2018 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Dizzyg12 (Post 16261960)
I’m still on my first tank and about 300 Total miles. mostly driving the suburban assault missions. I’m getting roughly 16.5 mpg in comfort.

It’s gotten better for you...from 11 to over 16. Let’s hope that trend continues :).

catbert430 07-10-2018 10:20 PM

I've been getting 18.5 around town and 25.5 on the highway at 75 mph.
Using 93 octane and Comfort mode in SH-AWD Tech model.
Hopefully there will be some small improvement when the car is fully broken in.

Dizzyg12 07-10-2018 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by TxLady (Post 16262001)
It’s gotten better for you...from 11 to over 16. Let’s hope that trend continues :).

haha I suspect it will when I take the leash off! 😉

wpmcmullin 07-11-2018 03:54 AM

19.6 MPG after 300 miles, 80% city, Comfort mode with a light foot.

quantum7 07-11-2018 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by TxLady (Post 16260587)
What MPG have you been getting on your 2019 RDX? Reports have been coming in much less than the sticker is showing. Please add your experience (MPG / driving mode/ and MPH, etc.) This could be a great fact finding thread. Thanks.

The estimated mpg shown on stickers varies for FWD:

Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)24 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)22 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)28 (Est)

The estimated MPG for AWD is:
Fuel Economy Est-Combined (MPG)24 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - City (MPG)22 (Est)
EPA Fuel Economy Est - Hwy (MPG)28 (Est)

Thank you for creating this thread.
This is very useful for those of us considering the RDX....I am looking at the A-SPEC RDX w/SH-AWD
I have about a 100 mile daily commute on mostly highway and would love to at least come close to matching my TL MPG which usually about 26 mpg at each fill up. The official ratings for my 07 TL are 18 city/26 highway/ 21 combined.
I am hopeful that the numbers will improve as the engines break in and the mileages of owners increase.

TxLady 07-11-2018 07:19 AM

Catbert430 brings up a very relevant point - it would also help to know what octane gas you’re using...regular or premium. So, great information to share is:

Which RDX model (Advance, A-Spec, Tech, Base)
And how many miles you have on it
FWD or AWD
driving mode (Comfort, Sport, Sport+)
city or highway ( or avg % of each)
type fuel
mpg

Thankyou all for continuing to contribute.

Stew4HD 07-11-2018 07:38 AM

Advance, 1100 miles, FWD, Comfort mode, 90% highway, Premium fuel

24.3 MPG average as of 7-11-18

pmartone 07-11-2018 08:23 AM

I agree with TxLady, it would be nice if people included the fuel type used (87 or 91 or 93) when they specify their fuel economy.
I would also note that I was pleasantly surprised when I was at a local Acura dealership and looking over the new 2019 RDX and popped open the gas filler door and what was inscribed was something like "premium fuel recommended", which to me implies it is safe to use 87, since it also said something like "87 octane minimum".
I wish I took a photo of that wording on the back of the gas filler door; if someone has a photo, perhaps they can share it with all of us. Thanks.

MTD 07-11-2018 09:28 AM

Sure you can use 87, but the ECU will mostly likely compensate and you can possible lose some hp/tq and get worse fuel economy then if you used 91.

Madd Dog 07-11-2018 09:40 AM

I think it is virtually the exact same engine/transmission used in the Honda Accord which calls for regular gas and posts lesser HP and torque numbers.

TxLady 07-11-2018 10:44 AM

There was a thread (in the many 2019 RDX threads now active) which had a very lengthy discussion on this topic. (I can't recall which thread it was.) It seems many felt the turbos could be impacted in a negative way by long term use of the lower octane fuel. The higher octane would provide a higher mpg, better performance; and, longevity without issues. I'm no mechanic (by a long shot!) But a couple of the contributors said they had experience with turbos and were pretty adamant about their feelings on the topic.

Just mentioning this so if you want to do a search on the forum for the conversation...it might answer some of your questions.

pnoi521 07-11-2018 11:54 AM

The fuel filler door does say something along the lines of 91 recommended, 87 minimum. I can try to upload a photo later.

I’m now on my 3rd tank of gas (including the gas from delivery)/ 1,400 miles. The past few days my mileage has ranged from 20-20.5 MPG in Sport on my SH-AWD A-Spec. I only use 91 from Chevron or Shell. The MPG has gradually been increasing so I’m hoping it’ll go up even more with a few theousand miles on it. This weekend I’ll be taking the RDX on my second trip to the Bay Area. First time I drove there I had about 500 miles and only averaged 20 MPG

pnoi521 07-11-2018 12:26 PM


Colorado Guy AF Ret. 07-11-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by TxLady (Post 16262189)
There was a thread (in the many 2019 RDX threads now active) which had a very lengthy discussion on this topic. (I can't recall which thread it was.) It seems many felt the turbos could be impacted in a negative way by long term use of the lower octane fuel. The higher octane would provide a higher mpg, better performance; and, longevity without issues. I'm no mechanic (by a long shot!) But a couple of the contributors said they had experience with turbos and were pretty adamant about their feelings on the topic.

Just mentioning this so if you want to do a search on the forum for the conversation...it might answer some of your questions.

Yes, turbo engines "push the max fuel and air into the cylinders to maximize HP on these smaller engines. Even the manual tells you that when using lower octane fuel, you "could experience engine knock" from time to time....and IF prolonged can cause long term damage to your engine. I used
to teach internal combustion engines, turbine engines, and diesels.....turbo types too.

The problem is enhanced during much hotter operating climates and when towing. So, I've always used Premium fuel.....in my Gen 2 RDX's...personal choice there....and I will always use Premium in my '19 RDX. Just a smarter move with this engine.
I know I will get push back from some....but, what I stated is just the facts....and even though Acura wrote the same "warning" with the 3.5 V6's......it's even more imperative to use Premium with these turbo 4's.

If you use 87 octane, then you will just have to "baby your driving technique" a lot more. But, again, in really hot weather and or towing, you better be using 91. JMPO.....FWIW

Dizzyg12 07-11-2018 02:45 PM

Filled up the tank (92) and reset. Immediately jumped to 18.7mpg. I guess she was thirsty

neoshi 07-11-2018 06:44 PM

Jeez, if yalls are getting around 20 mpg in comfort mode, a guy like me, who really only drives in Sport and likes to make the drive an adventure, is probably only going to get 16-18 mpg using 91 going about 80 mph on the freeways, 60 mph locally. Hmm..

Stew4HD 07-11-2018 06:49 PM

I drive in Comfort mode at 75-80mph on the freeways

Dave48103 07-14-2018 03:12 PM

I have averaged 23mpg since I bought the car. But I was pleasantly surprised by this latest mileage (although I have been on the freeway for the last 50 miles). 29.8 mpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/acurazi...826acdb3c.jpeg

DesignerTom 07-14-2018 10:04 PM

Advance AWD, 75% city/25% highway
21 MPG, premium fuel, 1500 miles

Fury63 07-14-2018 10:14 PM

Sure wish I could get 400+ miles on a tank but that doesn’t seem feasible.

GTF 07-15-2018 10:06 AM

I'm lucky to have a friend who is an expert engineer in energy-related industries, now retired, but remains a consultant for major energy/transportation companies.
His advice:
Use premium synthetic oil. He uses Mobil One (0-20 unless recommended otherwise) in most of his cars.
Use "Top Tier" fuel, especially if using regular grades. Top tier mostly impacts 87-89 levels where some companies restrict additives to premium (91+) grades.
Use the recommended fuel...if manufacturer recommends premium, use premium. Efficiency (mileage and power) will be adversely impacted by lower grade fuel. Using regular might save money, depending upon pricing premium.
There is no significant benefit using higher than recommended octane levels, as long as it's a top tier fuel.
Avoid ethanol. The most common (10% blend) will reduce efficiency (mileage/power) 3-6%, depending upon application. Unfortunately there usually is a slight cost premium even considering the efficiency advantage.
(My friend's cars total about $1.2 million, so not much concern for him)
Ethanol blended fuels also have been the source of significant problems when used in older automobile engines, as well as most small "garden tool" motors (weed hackers, chain saws, etc.).
Note:
Ethanol free fuel availability can be found on "puregas.org" website...availability is becoming extensive in most states. Unfortunately states owned by the corn/ethanol lobby (i.e. Iowa, Illinois, California) have succeeded in restricting choice/availability.
Ethanol began being sold as an environmental solution, long since debunked. Not even Al Gore continues to support ethanol. Now it's just a tax-fed money machine for the corn/ethanol industry and there related political contributions. IMHO.

skarface 07-15-2018 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by GTF (Post 16264393)
I'm lucky to have a friend who is an expert engineer in energy-related industries, now retired, but remains a consultant for major energy/transportation companies.
His advice:
Use premium synthetic oil. He uses Mobil One (0-20 unless recommended otherwise) in most of his cars.
Use "Top Tier" fuel, especially if using regular grades. Top tier mostly impacts 87-89 levels where some companies restrict additives to premium (91+) grades.
Use the recommended fuel...if manufacturer recommends premium, use premium. Efficiency (mileage and power) will be adversely impacted by lower grade fuel. Using regular might save money, depending upon pricing premium.
There is no significant benefit using higher than recommended octane levels, as long as it's a top tier fuel.
Avoid ethanol. The most common (10% blend) will reduce efficiency (mileage/power) 3-6%, depending upon application. Unfortunately there usually is a slight cost premium even considering the efficiency advantage.
(My friend's cars total about $1.2 million, so not much concern for him)
Ethanol blended fuels also have been the source of significant problems when used in older automobile engines, as well as most small "garden tool" motors (weed hackers, chain saws, etc.).
Note:
Ethanol free fuel availability can be found on "puregas.org" website...availability is becoming extensive in most states. Unfortunately states owned by the corn/ethanol lobby (i.e. Iowa, Illinois, California) have succeeded in restricting choice/availability.
Ethanol began being sold as an environmental solution, long since debunked. Not even Al Gore continues to support ethanol. Now it's just a tax-fed money machine for the corn/ethanol industry and there related political contributions. IMHO.

"There is no significant benefit using higher than recommended octane levels, as long as it's a top tier fuel."

The only thing I would add to that is in the case of the 2.0 4 cylinder turbo, Honda recommends 87 in the accord and 91 in the RDX. Dyno tests on the accord showed a slight boost in the power when using premium fuel vs 87. I'm thinking Acura just used premium fuel in their tests to be able to claim the higher power numbers and it's just about the same engine, so higher octane actually gets your Honda the Acura numbers.

MarineOne 07-15-2018 11:31 AM

This is the actual website:
https://www.pure-gas.org


R. White 07-16-2018 08:49 AM

Ethanol free fuel availability can be found on "puregas.org" website...availability is becoming extensive in most states. Unfortunately states owned by the corn/ethanol lobby (i.e. Iowa, Illinois, California) have succeeded in restricting choice/availability.
Ethanol began being sold as an environmental solution, long since debunked. Not even Al Gore continues to support ethanol. Now it's just a tax-fed money machine for the corn/ethanol industry and there related political contributions. IMHO.

__________________________________________________ ________
How much is this ethanol free gas ? It looks like all racing fuel in my area ( MA)

MI-RDX 07-16-2018 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by R. White (Post 16264720)
...
How much is this ethanol free gas ? It looks like all racing fuel in my area ( MA)

Same around here locally - it's either at a marina (tough to pull your car up to the pump) or 100+ octane ($$$$).


GTF 07-16-2018 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by R. White (Post 16264720)
Ethanol free fuel availability can be found on "puregas.org" website...availability is becoming extensive in most states. Unfortunately states owned by the corn/ethanol lobby (i.e. Iowa, Illinois, California) have succeeded in restricting choice/availability.
Ethanol began being sold as an environmental solution, long since debunked. Not even Al Gore continues to support ethanol. Now it's just a tax-fed money machine for the corn/ethanol industry and there related political contributions. IMHO.

__________________________________________________ ________
How much is this ethanol free gas ? It looks like all racing fuel in my area ( MA)

Most stations offer either E0 (Ethanol free) OR 10% blend on their premium (91 or 93 octane) gas. Filled up this week at $2.99 91 E0. The blend available at another brand at $2.89....so E0 was (here) an additional $0.10/gal. I live in relatively low-priced market. About 30-35% of the stations around me have converted to E0 on their premium, but keep 10% on their 87-89 octane. Note that marine and aviation fuel does not allow ethanol...

GTF 07-16-2018 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by skarface (Post 16264418)
"There is no significant benefit using higher than recommended octane levels, as long as it's a top tier fuel."

The only thing I would add to that is in the case of the 2.0 4 cylinder turbo, Honda recommends 87 in the accord and 91 in the RDX. Dyno tests on the accord showed a slight boost in the power when using premium fuel vs 87. I'm thinking Acura just used premium fuel in their tests to be able to claim the higher power numbers and it's just about the same engine, so higher octane actually gets your Honda the Acura numbers.

I haven't researched the complete specs of the RDX engine, but I suspect there will be upgrades to the RDX as there were in the Honda Civic type R (306 hp, 295 torque). The type R gets substantial internal hardware modifications as well as higher flow fuel injectors, higher flow turbo, more aggressive tune, etc. at same 9.8 compression ratio.
Note I said "any significant" increase using higher than recommended octane rating. There could be very marginal increase as the timing approaches maximum allowed. Nothing to justify the price premium.
Using premium in the Accord motor will not result in a 20hp increase.

neoshi 07-16-2018 12:26 PM

Heh come to California. E10 everywhere.. *crycry*

TxLady 07-16-2018 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by R. White (Post 16264720)
Ethanol free fuel availability can be found on "puregas.org" website...availability is becoming extensive in most states. Unfortunately states owned by the corn/ethanol lobby (i.e. Iowa, Illinois, California) have succeeded in restricting choice/availability.
Ethanol began being sold as an environmental solution, long since debunked. Not even Al Gore continues to support ethanol. Now it's just a tax-fed money machine for the corn/ethanol industry and there related political contributions. IMHO.

__________________________________________________ ________
How much is this ethanol free gas ? It looks like all racing fuel in my area ( MA)

Must be some kind of deterrent in Texas as well. Few and far between.

Hondaluvr29 07-16-2018 07:53 PM

I'm no mechanic either but after reviewing multiple reports from consumerreports and fuel.gov or whatnot. 87 might slightly affect performance and EPA but is considered neglible compared to the price you pay for premium. There is also NO reports of long term reliability as it does NOT damage the engine(government website). When asked Luxury automakers, they have also stated that premium MAY Dec performance and EPA but have never claimed that there will be any damages. This is all for cars where premium gas is RECOMMENDED and not REQUIRED. I believe it is also true that there are sensors that let's the ECU know what octane gas you are using for modern cars that calibrate accordingly, and I would be very surprised if the 2019 RDX doesn't have it. I do believe that luxury automakers who recommended premium say so, so that the driver gets the best experience possible with that car. The engine and turbo is derived from the type R and accord. I don't know how different the engine is from the accord but the accord is recommended for Octane 87. So people who are claiming it will damage these new turbos think again. Cars and the entire gasoline automotive industry have been around for a while and know what they're doing. If they really thought you NEEDED premium fuel they would make sure to let you know of it.

The times I would definitely use premium just to be sure is summer, towing, any sort of knocking. (You will know early on, a couple knocks won't damage the engine)

Now why am I stating all of this? Because I'm the type of guy who will pay 50k for a brand new 2019 car but refuse to pay the extra for premium fuel if I don't have to.

MTD 07-20-2018 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by MTD (Post 16260647)
Ive onl;y had my SHAWD A-Spec for about 5 days, so its hardly broken in, but getting about 19mpg all-city in Sport and + modes.

As a follow up to this...

My RDX now has about 1000miles (1600kms) on it and the last tank showed 23mpg (10.3L/100kms), same driving situation, mostly city and rural low speed highways, Sport and Sport +, 91 gas. So in my case, fuel economy is getting better. Wife is doing a few longer highway commutes this weekend, so I'll be sure to report back in a few days.

romer 07-20-2018 10:02 PM

To get accurate MPG, we have to divide gallons of gas filled against miles driven per tank. The car’s (not just Acura) readings are notorious for inflating MPG. My current RDX (2016 Advance) reliably shows one MPG higher on each tank of gas than the actual MPG I get. This has been true for many of my other cars too.

Hou-RL 07-21-2018 02:46 PM

My mileage is averaging 21.3 MPG which up form 19 MPG.

TxLady 07-21-2018 06:08 PM

We just took a 350 mile trip and while able to maintain highway speed for 100 miles...got 28.5 mpg; however, we entered heavy intercity traffic and a couple bad accidents which created long, stop and go delays’ so total trip mpg was 26.2 mpg

Advance Model FWD
total miles driven: 468 miles
drive mode: Comfort

looking forward to those break in numbers :)


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