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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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So wanted to see what type of gas people are putting into their 2019 RDX? Went to fill up mine this morning and saw the sticker saying 91 is recommended, but a minimum of 87. Does that mean 87 or above? I ended up filling it with 91, but wanted to see what others are filling it with.

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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 05:18 PM
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Simply put. You can use 87. Use 91 if you want better performance. /thread
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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It wants 91-93. You can use 87 but not recommended.
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 07:55 PM
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Everyone who cares about their premium vehicle is using 91-93.
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 08:06 PM
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Top Tier Mobil 93 or Top Tier Shell 93 only.
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 08:53 PM
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I've been using 91 for the first 3000 kms and the engine's always been peppy. Tonight I pumped 3/4 tank of 87 to see if I'd notice a difference and on the short drive home afterwards, it felt almost immediately sluggish. I'll see how the car drives over the next few days to see if my impressions were right.
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Old Sep 13, 2018 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yehlic Cliyeh
So wanted to see what type of gas people are putting into their 2019 RDX? Went to fill up mine this morning and saw the sticker saying 91 is recommended, but a minimum of 87. Does that mean 87 or above? I ended up filling it with 91, but wanted to see what others are filling it with.

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Chevron Premium is the only gas I have ever used in my 3 Acuras. 03 TL-S 04 RSX-S 19 RDX Sh-AWD Advance.

Acura service mgrs recommended - good enough for ne.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:49 AM
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OP this topic has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum and is redundant as hell with all due respect. Fill it with whatever you want, 91 for better fuel economy and performance and 87 to save a few bucks a year on your premium vehicle.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 06:37 AM
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In spite of the subtle digs about putting "premium gas in a premium vehicle", the bottom line is that 91 is recommended for optimal performance. It is not required like many other "premium" vehicles. Most European direct injected turbos require 91 Octane. My last three cars - MINI Cooper S, Mercedes GLA, and Audi TT RS all "require" 91 octane.

What that means is your RDX will run just fine with the 87 octane. I do agree 100% that you should use a top tier gasoline - more detergents and more consistent quality.

A good friend of mine is a senior manager for Nissan in Tennessee and he confirmed the comments above. Further, while you should get better performance and gas mileage with 91 octane, your mileage will not improve enough to make up the difference in price between the two grades.

Bottom line - your car, your call. You aren't going to hurt your car.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 12:41 PM
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Not to beat a dead horse but here is real data (versus speculation/opinion) on regular versus premium when it's not required - only recommended.

https://newsroom.aaa.com/2017/12/don...s-worth-price/

For those that don't want to read the article and the linked references in it here's a summary of the pertinent conclusions. (Notice that some vehicles actually experienced a decrease in mileage/performance when using the recommended premium fuel.)

"drivers of vehicles that recommend, but do not require, premium gasoline are unlikely to see any benefit from using premium gasoline during typical city or highway driving"
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"laboratory and on-road tests were performed to simulate extreme driving scenarios such as towing, hauling cargo and aggressive acceleration. When using premium fuel in these vehicles under these conditions, AAA tests found that:

- Most vehicles tested showed a modest improvement in fuel economy.

Test vehicles averaged a 2.7 percent improvement in fuel economy across AAA’s tests. Individual vehicle test result averages ranged from a decrease of 1 percent (2016 Audi A3) to an improvement of 7.1 percent (2016 Cadillac Escalade).

- Most vehicles tested showed a modest improvement in performance.

Test vehicles averaged an increase in horsepower of 1.4 percent across AAA’s tests. Individual vehicle test result averages ranged from a decrease of 0.3 percent (2016 Jeep Renegade) to an improvement of 3.2 percent (2017 Ford Mustang)."

My opinion is there is absolutely no way to justify paying 20% more for premium gas when the best I can hope to realize is a less than 3% improvement in mileage and less than 1.5% improvement in performance only under limited operating conditions - and no benefit at all otherwise.

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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:14 PM
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While I agree with much of the conclusions put forth in these threads, a couple posts over recent months mention the engine suddenly depowering under hard acceleration. While there were no conclusions regarding the cause, what if the engine was reacting to protect itself from detonation.....the last thing I would want is the engine shutting down while passing a train of semis on the highway.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Burger Steak & Eggs
...While there were no conclusions regarding the cause, what if the engine was reacting to protect itself from detonation.....the last thing I would want is the engine shutting down while passing a train of semis on the highway.
Nothing like a little fearmongering to change the focus of a discussion.

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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MI-RDX
Not to beat a dead horse but here is real data (versus speculation/opinion) on regular versus premium when it's not required - only recommended.
Thanks for the "real" data...we all know how anal you are about "speculation/opinion"
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by securityguy
Thanks for the "real" data...we all know how anal you are about "speculation/opinion"
With the goal of trying to make forum posts useful.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by MI-RDX
Not to beat a dead horse but here is real data (versus speculation/opinion) on regular versus premium when it's not required - only recommended.

https://newsroom.aaa.com/2017/12/don...s-worth-price/

For those that don't want to read the article and the linked references in it here's a summary of the pertinent conclusions. (Notice that some vehicles actually experienced a decrease in mileage/performance when using the recommended premium fuel.)

"drivers of vehicles that recommend, but do not require, premium gasoline are unlikely to see any benefit from using premium gasoline during typical city or highway driving"
...
"laboratory and on-road tests were performed to simulate extreme driving scenarios such as towing, hauling cargo and aggressive acceleration. When using premium fuel in these vehicles under these conditions, AAA tests found that:

- Most vehicles tested showed a modest improvement in fuel economy.

Test vehicles averaged a 2.7 percent improvement in fuel economy across AAA’s tests. Individual vehicle test result averages ranged from a decrease of 1 percent (2016 Audi A3) to an improvement of 7.1 percent (2016 Cadillac Escalade).

- Most vehicles tested showed a modest improvement in performance.

Test vehicles averaged an increase in horsepower of 1.4 percent across AAA’s tests. Individual vehicle test result averages ranged from a decrease of 0.3 percent (2016 Jeep Renegade) to an improvement of 3.2 percent (2017 Ford Mustang)."

My opinion is there is absolutely no way to justify paying 20% more for premium gas when the best I can hope to realize is a less than 3% improvement in mileage and less than 1.5% improvement in performance only under limited operating conditions - and no benefit at all otherwise.
This is very interesting and makes you wonder why they bother even suggesting premium when I know a lot of people who only buy Lincoln's because they ask for regular. I know that premium gas isn't inherently cleaner than regular and if you're filling from a top tier station, the regular should still be clean. So I'm wondering if it's to give the impression that a car is a premium vehicle. Sounds stupid to me too but it's possible no?
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 03:12 PM
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...So I'm wondering if it's to give the impression that a car is a premium vehicle. Sounds stupid to me too but it's possible no?
Who knows how the minds of marketers (or politicians) really work?

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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MI-RDX
Who knows how the minds of marketers (or politicians) really work?

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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 05:27 PM
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This same 2.0 has a regular gas recommendation in the Accord. So, IMO, the premium is recommended in the Acura so that the higher torque/HP numbers can be published. The Accord has 273 at 1500 torque and 252 at 6500 HP, while the RDX has 280 at 1600 and 272 at 6500. So the premium gas, IMO, moves the torque peak up 7 pounds and holds it better at higher revs.

To me, the difference is the premium gas recommendation.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RDX10
This is very interesting and makes you wonder why they bother even suggesting premium when I know a lot of people who only buy Lincoln's because they ask for regular. I know that premium gas isn't inherently cleaner than regular and if you're filling from a top tier station, the regular should still be clean. So I'm wondering if it's to give the impression that a car is a premium vehicle. Sounds stupid to me too but it's possible no?
I also wonder if the “Big Oil” companies are compensating the Car makers to recommend premium (thus it could be a back end money grab)
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 06:19 PM
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I also wonder if the “Big Oil” companies are compensating the Car makers to recommend premium (thus it could be a back end money grab)

Well, if someone wants to money grab against my back end, they need to watch out for the methane.
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Old Sep 14, 2018 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
This same 2.0 has a regular gas recommendation in the Accord.

I will check again tomorrow, when I see my Mom, but I am almost sure that the Accord 2.0T has the same recommendation as the Acura. 87 Minimum / 91 Recommended.
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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Midwestuser1

I also wonder if the “Big Oil” companies are compensating the Car makers to recommend premium (thus it could be a back end money grab)
If that's the case it's been going on for a long time on a selective basis. This from my former '02 Toyota Highlander OM (3.0L V6) that I used as a daily driver for over 130,000 miles on 87 octane with no issues. (Kind of interesting that neither the '11 Highlander or '18 Highlander have any mention of premium other than 87 being the lowest allowable.) Reads almost the same as the RDX.
1MZ−FE engine
Unleaded gasoline, Octane Rating 87
(Research Octane Number 91) or
higher. For improved vehicle performance,
the use of premium unleaded
gasoline with an Octane Rating of 91
(Research Octane Number 96) or
higher is recommended.




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Old Sep 15, 2018 | 07:58 PM
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I also wonder if the “Big Oil” companies are compensating the Car makers to recommend premium (thus it could be a back end money grab)
Oh please.

Keep an eye out for your tin foil hat in the mail.
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Old Sep 18, 2018 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 37tzee
Oh please.

Keep an eye out for your tin foil hat in the mail.
But how would I check the mail to get my foil hat without being at risk on the way to said mailbox
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