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Old 09-06-2018 | 11:41 PM
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DIY: First oil change at what mileage?

Looking for some input, when I should do my first oil change? I have a recommendation from a mechanic to do the first at 2000 miles; will use full synthetic Mobil 1 0W-20 with an OEM filter. Currently at 800 miles.
Old 09-07-2018 | 01:23 AM
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Honda generally suggests leaving the initial oil fill in until the maintenance minder says to change it. I would leave that initial fill in until at least 20% remains on the oil indicator and I will not start looking to change until the 15% point is reached.

While Honda does not use break-in oil, per se, there is a fair amount of assembly moly in the engine, and therefore in the oil, that Honda recommends you leave in for that first fill.
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Old 09-07-2018 | 05:12 AM
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I go by what the MID say, when it warns me at 15% I go in for an oil change.
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Old 09-07-2018 | 05:16 AM
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I, typically, never listen to "Maintenance Minders" but I may listen for the first change based on commentary above if research proves it accurate. I will then change with full synthetic (I like Pennzoil Platinum or Castrol) every 5K miles like clockwork.
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Old 09-07-2018 | 05:20 AM
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I would wait until the oil life drops to at least 20% or one year...which ever comes first.
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Old 09-07-2018 | 07:21 AM
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https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tip...-your-oil.html

I go with every year but no more than 10k miles.

The first oil change at 2k miles or change oil immediately is a thing of the past. The factory that add these oils and filter are probably cleaner than your local mechanic shop.
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Old 09-07-2018 | 09:32 AM
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Thanks for the link, just read a few of those on oil change periodicity and oil monitoring systems. Just like I did on my Countryman Cooper S All 4 I'll most likely change the oil and filter at 5k miles and use full synthetic. One thing I won't do is use an aftermarket oil fiter, did that once on the Mini and the crushwasher provided was the wrong type,
Old 09-07-2018 | 09:34 AM
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Thanks, I'll hold off on the initial oil change and keep an eye on miles and oil remaining life and change when oil remaining life is at 20%.
Old 09-08-2018 | 08:40 AM
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I would be using Mobil1 filter. It’s much better than Honda filters. 172k on my rdx first gen on Mobil1 and mobil1 filters.
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As a general rule, folks over think the oil filter; here are a few comments to mull over:
  • As with all sieve type filters, oil filter efficiency improves as the filter ages.
  • For any healthy engine, it will typically take over 20,000 miles to saturate the filter element enough to cause the filter to go into bypass mode.
  • Changing synthetic oil and the filter every 5,000 miles on virtually any modern vehicle not living on a race track is throwing away good oil and a good filter.
  • As of my most recent Honda product, Honda was still recommending an oil filter change EVERY-OTHER oil change; they may still be following that practice (if not they've probably reduced the oil filter size).
Old 09-08-2018 | 09:42 AM
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I get Mobil1 oil at walmart for like $22, plus $10 for mobil1 oil filter. I do run same oil filter for two oil changes, but I follow MID which is around 5-6K miles. Turbo engines are not easy on oil, there is really no upside trying to stretch OCI given that it only costs $20-25 for oil considering its $40K+ car. Oil is cheap.
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Yes, turbo engines are hard on conventional oil, the same doesn't hold true for synthetic. Changing synthetic oil every five to six thousand miles is extreme overkill; some turbocharged engines over in Europe don't call for an oil change until at least the 20,000 mile mark.
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I worry less about the oil and more about the filter. Yearly syn oil change is a good measurement if you are not driving 10k or over
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Originally Posted by acuraada
I worry less about the oil and more about the filter. Yearly syn oil change is a good measurement if you are not driving 10k or over
The filter is the least of your worries; filters improve with age (improved efficiency) and yet will not go into bypass mode for an easy 20,000+ miles. That's why Honda recommends filter changes EVERY-OTHER oil change for many of their cars.
Old 09-08-2018 | 02:59 PM
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Mobil1 oil filter has a guarantee of 20k miles!
I cut my mobil1 oil filter after 10k miles and it barely had anything in it!
So you say I am wasting money changing mobil1 every 5-6k miles as recommended by manufacture? Hmn, it costs me $22 for 5qt, I must be wasting a lot of money....
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Originally Posted by russianDude
Mobil1 oil filter has a guarantee of 20k miles!
I cut my mobil1 oil filter after 10k miles and it barely had anything in it!
So you say I am wasting money changing mobil1 every 5-6k miles as recommended by manufacture? Hmn, it costs me $22 for 5qt, I must be wasting a lot of money....
So I'm curious, where does the manufacturer (manufacturer as in Honda/Acura, not the dealership), recommend five to six thousand miles? In addition, what oil does the manufacturer recommend? I strongly suspect is is a semi-synthetic oil. If you use a full synthetic then yes, you are wasting money by changing it so often. That said, if your car is under warranty, then in the event of an engine related warranty issue, it is much less of a hassle to change when they recommend, even if you are throwing away good oil.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
So I'm curious, where does the manufacturer (manufacturer as in Honda/Acura, not the dealership), recommend five to six thousand miles? In addition, what oil does the manufacturer recommend? I strongly suspect is is a semi-synthetic oil. If you use a full synthetic then yes, you are wasting money by changing it so often. That said, if your car is under warranty, then in the event of an engine related warranty issue, it is much less of a hassle to change when they recommend, even if you are throwing away good oil.
owners manual for my car says follow MID, and it comes up around 5-6k miles for an oil change based on driving conditions.
1st gen RDX requires synthetic Mobil1 5w-30 or other synthetic oil that meets HTO-6 certification. mobil1 is a factory oil for 1st gen.

I’ve always changed oil myself, and got over 170k miles on my car and I am original owner. When I get 3rd gen rdx, will continue changing myself with mobil1 by following owners manual. 3rd gen rdx needs 0w-20, which is very hard to find non synthetic.
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Originally Posted by russianDude

owners manual for my car says follow MID, and it comes up around 5-6k miles for an oil change based on driving conditions.
1st gen RDX requires synthetic Mobil1 5w-30 or other synthetic oil that meets HTO-6 certification. mobil1 is a factory oil for 1st gen.

I’ve always changed oil myself, and got over 170k miles on my car and I am original owner. When I get 3rd gen rdx, will continue changing myself with mobil1 by following owners manual. 3rd gen rdx needs 0w-20, which is very hard to find non synthetic.
Yup, the only non-synthetic 0W-20 I know of is branded by none other than Honda. Go figure.
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Ford Motorcraft has a 0W20 Synthetic Blend. I, for one, only use FULL SYN.
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Originally Posted by securityguy
Ford Motorcraft has a 0W20 Synthetic Blend. I, for one, only use FULL SYN.
Thanks; didn't know about the Motorcraft oil. Any bets on whether the Honda and Motorcraft oil are identical and from the same petroleum company?
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Just use Mobil1, its cheap at walmart
Old 09-09-2018 | 09:25 AM
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I, too, buy the 5qt jugs of full synthetic from Walmart for under $23. Pennzoil Platinum is my preference but you won't go wrong with whatever's on sale (Mobil1, Castrol, Valvoline, etc.)
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Originally Posted by securityguy
I, too, buy the 5qt jugs of full synthetic from Walmart for under $23. Pennzoil Platinum is my preference but you won't go wrong with whatever's on sale (Mobil1, Castrol, Valvoline, etc.)

Agreed. Any synthetic would do. Number of good brands to pick from. Given such a low cost, I would not be using non-synthetic 0w-20 in any car, especially the one that has turbo engine.
Old 09-10-2018 | 12:01 PM
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So keeping the same oil filter for the next oil change is ok?, what do you guys think, thanks
Old 09-10-2018 | 12:16 PM
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For me, the cost of the filter is negligible so why not change it at the oil change???
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Originally Posted by securityguy
For me, the cost of the filter is negligible so why not change it at the oil change???
The rationale for not changing the filter is that you get better filtration during the second oil change cycle.
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Please provide a data source that collaborates this "better filtration" during the second cycle.
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Originally Posted by securityguy
Please provide a data source that collaborates this "better filtration" during the second cycle.
It is a standard feature of ALL sieve type filters; as dirt accumulates, efficiency rises. Fact of life.

If you don't believe me, and this sure seems to be the week for it, test it yourself. Take a colander, line it with cheese cloth or other porous "filter" material, and then pour soup stock or orange juice, or anything else you want filtered through it. As the filter gains particulate, the purity of what comes through the filter rises dramatically.
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its Hondas recommendation to change it every other time. I dont think this is for efficency reasons, they probably think its not necessary.
Mobil1 is more expensive than honda filter, also you save yourself some time and messines if you change filter every other time.
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When I talked to one of the salesmen at the dealership, they mentioned getting an oil change around 6500 miles.
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Originally Posted by _korangar
When I talked to one of the salesmen at the dealership, they mentioned getting an oil change around 6500 miles.
Sales associates are some of the absolute worst sources of information about a car. What does your Owner's Manual say?
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For me the first OC will be when the reminder pops up and tells me it's time. I'm quite sure the engineers who designed the systems, and the chemists who formulate the oil, know considerably more than I do.
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For me the first OC will be when the reminder pops up and tells me it's time. I'm quite sure the engineers who designed the systems, and the chemists who formulate the oil, know considerably more than I do.
Couldn't have said it better.
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Definitely go with the service reminder not salesman..
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First oil change at 1763 miles. Oil has strong gas smell and factory overfilled.
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Originally Posted by MI-RDX
For me the first OC will be when the reminder pops up and tells me it's time. I'm quite sure the engineers who designed the systems, and the chemists who formulate the oil, know considerably more than I do.
A little common sense goes a long way. Why would Acura/Honda program a MM for people NOT to follow?
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Does the dealership use full synthetic oil for the RDX? Or do I need to pay more for it?
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Originally Posted by Ludepower
Does the dealership use full synthetic oil for the RDX? Or do I need to pay more for it?
you have to ask for it, it might be synthetic blend
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Traded mine in before the first oil change. Had 8000 miles and still showed 25%
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Traded mine in before the first oil change. Had 8000 miles and still showed 25%
Why did you trade your RDX in?


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