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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 11:00 PM
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No, I don't have to use the "marketing speak" because I've learned in the past that still leaves some people going...."HUH???"....so, I describe it in practical terms. I know very well how they all work. I should after owning so
many of them. So, IF you want to help folks, use "common language" when explaining what is going on. "Marketing Speak" explains nothing.

I used to have to write Tech. Manuals for aircraft....I think I know a little bit about this type of subject. I got paid a lot of money to write so people can understand what truly is happening.

And, pray tell, what is the "different meaning" with our new RDX in Sport+ mode? Inquiring and knowledgeable minds would like you to explain it to us. In everyday, understandable terms for those that don't have a clue...."marketing speak" has been banished from this thread.
Well, I think this was a very productive session. When we come back next week, we can work on some different topics that cause us stress in our everyday lives.

A brief scan of pertinent common language dictionaries has failed to produce a hit on "Sport+", but according to Acura it is a "dynamic mode" setting we may select with that REALLY BIG KNOB on the dashboard. Some might argue that knob could be better used for selecting transmission modes, but this is the kind of thing that happens when artists ( excuse me, automotive designers ) get to call the shots.

Anyway, as I think you know, the "dynamic modes" alter steering assist and throttle response as well as some transmission shift parameters ( and suspension tuning in the Advance trim with the electrically adjustable shock absorbers ).

The "S" mode on the transmission, which you can access by pushing the D/S button on the transmission button pad, has a more profound effect on shifting behavior. And as you know, once you are in "S mode" ( which I prefer to call "Sport mode" ), yanking a paddle shifter will enable full manual control of the transmission. This is referred to as "manual sequential" mode because that's how it behaves. One pull of a paddle shifts the transmission up or down one gear. It doesn't skip gears. Usually. For advanced study, describe a situation where the thing WILL skip gears in that mode.

I just want to know who thought it was a good idea to have the cutsie little graphics animations for the "dynamic modes" on the infotainment system display. And the "start-up" fanfare on the MID. Even my teenage son thinks it's lame. There. I feel much better now that I got that off my chest. Thanks for listening.




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Old Jul 23, 2018 | 11:30 PM
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I mean the graphics are better than boring Times New Roman size 11 single spaced font
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 12:28 AM
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I mean the graphics are better than boring Times New Roman size 11 single spaced font

But since we have trended onto the topic of effective communication, what information is conveyed by those graphics that is not more effectively, and perhaps less distractingly, conveyed by a single word of text?

But really, the "dynamic mode" setting graphics just strike me as a little bit silly. The "startup fanfare" is downright annoying. There outta be a setting to turn it OFF!

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 12:55 AM
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If they didn’t add graphics there would be one less thing for people to complain about.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 01:09 AM
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If they didn’t add graphics there would be one less thing for people to complain about.
Or maybe they could focus their attention on things that actually add value.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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I don’t mind the startup fanfare or the graphics but my monitor lags a bit when you change modes. Kinda funny you want to quickly move into Sport+ but you gotta do it slowly..
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fury63
I don’t mind the startup fanfare or the graphics but my monitor lags a bit when you change modes. Kinda funny you want to quickly move into Sport+ but you gotta do it slowly..
TRue, I want to quickly go to Sport+ but i have to wait until it stops in Sport mode first. If I need the Sport+ now it is too long.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Fury63
I don’t mind the startup fanfare or the graphics but my monitor lags a bit when you change modes. Kinda funny you want to quickly move into Sport+ but you gotta do it slowly..
Just maybe, but the monitor stuff might just be there to distract you while things boot up behind the scene.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:38 AM
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I just took a trip to Central Michigan from Chicago and back. I changed the scale on my nav probably 10 times and for different lengths of time. Sometimes to actually find roads but a lot just for curiosity. I would really miss being able to do that and have the nav continue tracking. I’ve read the new RDX jumps back to a set scale to track the vehicle. Is this correct? Does it bother owners as much as I think it would bother me? Obviously I would probably get used to it but it would be something I would miss. Any word that it could be an easy fix in the future?
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog
Just maybe, but the monitor stuff might just be there to distract you while things boot up behind the scene.
^^^ This is the likely reason.

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Wander
Or maybe they could focus their attention on things that actually add value.
I would take better cup holders over the graphics
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:14 AM
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Leather is a natural material - it stretches - this happens.
Yes, leather stretches.
That's why designers/engineers assure correct dye cuts, stitching, internal support, supportive padding, etc. to accommodate for potential leather instability. This dimpling in photo is not acceptable in a new luxury/near luxury automobile. My guess is this will be corrected by Acura.....probable cause is cut on center panel of seat is slightly large, resulting in insufficient tension, or whatever. This might be acceptable to many. Knowing I would see it every time I sat down, it would not be acceptable to me.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Madd Dog


Just maybe, but the monitor stuff might just be there to distract you while things boot up behind the scene.
its ok, millennials, just go get a cup of frappamochalatexhino and read your book while the system boots. It’s no different than your iPhone showing an Apple logo when it boots up.

I swear, nobody has patience anymore. These people don’t know the pains of dial up aol. 😂
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:27 AM
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its ok, millennials, just go get a cup of frappamochalatexhino and read your book while the system boots. It’s no different than your iPhone showing an Apple logo when it boots up.

I swear, nobody has patience anymore. These people don’t know the pains of dial up aol. 😂
Dude, my kids are (pre-)millennials. My iPhone blows the doors off of Cray supercomputers I used to dial into "back in the day".

But Moore's law doesn't account for the cheap bas$tard in accounting who will under-spec the primary CPU in a $50,000 device just to save $0.50.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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I happen to really like the various graphics lol. Better then a blank screen IMO.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 12:50 PM
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Few details that I think could improve for the RDX,

back seat armrest. My current Mercedes makes good use out of the armrest by having fold in cup holders and small storage space. If you look at the thickness of the RDX armrest, one can’t help wonder why they didn’t make better use of it.

not enough usb and 12v outlets. I have one USB port in the glove compartment, it comes in handy when I had to route my dash cam for power. It’s perfect location for that sort of things.



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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dizzyg12

its ok, millennials,
Are there Millenials buying the RDX? I thought this was an “old persons car”.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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Are there Millenials buying the RDX? I thought this was an “old persons car”.
Yep..Acura’s target audience for this vehicle are the 30-40 yr olds, they wanted it to appeal to a younger audience.. That is what the president said at the unveiling. Have you checked out the marketing shots? Anyone over 40 in 'um? (Hum...maybe that's Gen X )
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:13 PM
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I don’t know what Jon Ikeda is thinking. Despite what he wants for the brand, Acura will always be the brand that gives you value and reliability. It appeals to your logic sense and wallet, not emotions. That tacky line about appeal to emotion has been said before (BMW) So why play the catch up? There is nothing wrong being a value luxury brand. They did that with Legend and Integra. The two cars were not the best in their respective category but certainly the best bang for the buck. RDX continues with that lineage but he is just not admitting it
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 06:46 PM
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Are there Millenials buying the RDX? I thought this was an “old persons car”.
Present. But I wasn’t complaining about anything he was talking about and didn’t see any other millennials involved in the thread at that time; I’m still wondering where that comment came from lol
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:03 PM
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Present. But I wasn’t complaining about anything he was talking about and didn’t see any other millennials involved in the thread at that time; I’m still wondering where that comment came from lol

Me too. I do not happen to be a millenial, but I am young at heart.

Fairy tales can come true
It can happen to you if you're young at heart
For it's hard, you will find
To be narrow of mind if you're young at heart.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:05 PM
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...There is nothing wrong being a value luxury brand...
True. The Gen 2 Cadillac SRX fell into that category and was the best selling model ever. New management took over and decided they wanted to make the nameplate a 'real' luxury brand when the SRX was replaced by the XT5 which ended up about $8K more for a comparably equipped vehicle. Bad move IMO.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fury63


Are there Millenials buying the RDX? I thought this was an “old persons car”.
Originally Posted by TxLady
Yep..Acura’s target audience for this vehicle are the 30-40 yr olds, they wanted it to appeal to a younger audience.. That is what the president said at the unveiling. Have you checked out the marketing shots? Anyone over 40 in 'um? (Hum...maybe that's Gen X )
Originally Posted by pnoi521


Present. But I wasn’t complaining about anything he was talking about and didn’t see any other millennials involved in the thread at that time; I’m still wondering where that comment came from lol
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Me too. I do not happen to be a millenial, but I am young at heart.

Fairy tales can come true
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For it's hard, you will find
To be narrow of mind if you're young at heart.
haha I’m just messing with the millennials comment. It seems like a lot of millennials are interested in the car, but since their the laziest generation in the history of the planet, they just complain about how much work all the cool tech makes - like pressing a few extra buttons to go forward or backwards and turning off the ASS mode. Just kidding, lol

im 41 and a kid at heart as well. They definitely market this to the younger generation and are trying to steal sales from Lexus who went after the same demographic with their redesign a few years ago.

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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:39 PM
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Haha I think most of the complaints about extra button pressing has been from the 45+ crowd. No matter who is complaining, i just don’t get it! It takes almost no effort to disable ASS or select a gear. People just don’t like change
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:43 PM
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haha I’m just messing with the millennials comment. It seems like a lot of millennials are interested in the car, but since their the laziest generation in the history of the planet, they just complain about how much work all the cool tech makes - like pressing a few extra buttons to go forward or backwards and turning off the ASS mode. Just kidding, lol

im 41 and a kid at heart as well. They definitely market this to the younger generation and are trying to steal sales from Lexus who went after the same demographic with their redesign a few years ago.


Yeah, that there younger generation sure is full of faults.

“[Young people] are high-minded because they have not yet been humbled by life, nor have they experienced the force of circumstances.

They think they know everything, and are always quite sure about it.”


- Aristotle.

(Not the new Greek Onassisone, but that older guy, from Philo 101,)
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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Haha I think most of the complaints about extra button pressing has been from the 45+ crowd. No matter who is complaining, i just don’t get it! It takes almost no effort to disable ASS or select a gear. People just don’t like change
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by pnoi521
Haha I think most of the complaints about extra button pressing has been from the 45+ crowd. No matter who is complaining, i just don’t get it! It takes almost no effort to disable ASS or select a gear. People just don’t like change
I love change. As long as it works. Keeps me on my toes.
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Old Jul 24, 2018 | 08:56 PM
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I hate change. It weighs down my pockets and I never have enough when I actually need it.

I don't make the mistake of confusing change with progress. Progress is an infinitesimally small subset of change. Those who worship change simply for the sake of change never go anywhere. Of course sometimes that's the point. Witness planned obsolescence.

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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 08:19 AM
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Are there Millenials buying the RDX? I thought this was an “old persons car”.
Well the oldest Millenial is 37 for what that's worth
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Old Jul 25, 2018 | 05:59 PM
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I miss the "dial" of the old cars that allowed the NAVI to be zoomed in or out (and stay that way) of course, but I do like the 3D view and the fact that it moves back and forth between 1/4 mile and 3/8 mile views depending on where you are with regard to density. The thing I find the most annoying is the cabin storage space. There is far less room than my previous RDX's (14/17) and getting things in and out of the main storage unit is a real stretch, and hard (and dangerous) to try and do while driving. The bottle storage in the door is now at a 45 degree angle as opposed to the old vertical storage in the older cars, but that gives the speakers more room so I can live with that.

On the whole, I really don't have too much to complain about the car. The lack of things like spare tire, folding mirrors, remote key fob and stuff like that are annoying but I understand they wanted to keep the car under $50K.
But so far, this is the most fun I've had with a new RDX, and this is my 4th, so that's pretty good.
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 06:21 AM
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Foot Kick Sensor

Have any of you been able to tell if the Acura hitch interferes with the operability of the "foot kick" rear hatch opener on the Advance model? Is a kit needed to relocate the foot sensor?
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 12:01 PM
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Have any of you been able to tell if the Acura hitch interferes with the operability of the "foot kick" rear hatch opener on the Advance model? Is a kit needed to relocate the foot sensor?
I believe that they move the kick sensor to the left as part of the trailer hitch installation.
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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 01:00 PM
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Thats what I read elsewhere as well.

Has anyone found a place that does a Class II / 2" hitch in stall for this car?
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 12:05 AM
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Not sure if it was already discussed, if yes I’m sorry. My biggest in general driving experience negative point is that the gas paddle is ridiculously light, to the point that I want to put some kind of sponge under it to help keeping my foot up.. (I’m average foot size). I’m playing to take out peddle assembly and replace the spring in it with a little stronger one or something. I always liked the idea of gas paddle assembly attached on the floor. Please excuse my poor English!
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 01:52 AM
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Have any of you been able to tell if the Acura hitch interferes with the operability of the "foot kick" rear hatch opener on the Advance model? Is a kit needed to relocate the foot sensor?
The Hands Free Access sensor must be replaced and relocated when the OEM hitch is installed. I debated the merits of this, but I decided to go all-in and keep everything functional. But it's not an inexpensive solution.

I'm not aware of any aftermarket options at this time, with either 1.25 or 2.0 inch receivers. OEM is class I 1.25 inch. I have verified compatibility of a Curt 1.25-2.0 inch adapter for a bike rack.

Required OEM hitch parts for 2019 Acura RDX Advance:

08L91-TJB-200 Harness, Trailer Hitch

08L91-TJB-200B Sensor, Tailgate

08L92-TJB-200B Panel, Trailer Hitch Cover

08L92-TJB-200 Trailer Hitch

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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 02:04 AM
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Not sure if it was already discussed, if yes I’m sorry. My biggest in general driving experience negative point is that the gas paddle is ridiculously light, to the point that I want to put some kind of sponge under it to help keeping my foot up.. (I’m average foot size). I’m playing to take out peddle assembly and replace the spring in it with a little stronger one or something. I always liked the idea of gas paddle assembly attached on the floor. Please excuse my poor English!
Messing with the mechanism of the gas pedal would be a Very Bad Idea. Look up "unintended acceleration" if you want to know why. Try adjusting your seat position so your leg and ankle are well positioned to operate the pedal.

The pedal response is changed with the different "dynamic modes", so experiment to see what you like. You will quickly adapt to the pedal feel as you drive the car.
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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CarPlay negative

After 5 days of ownership and playing with most of the features and settings, I have to say that the biggest negative for me is the mouse-trackpad style control in CarPlay mode. After 10 minutes I got used to the Acura absolute trackpad control and actually like it compared to trying to hover an outreached arm to a touch panel. But I find the CarPlay controls extremely finicky and frustrating. I have a hard time picking the control I want, I think often because it requires much longer gestures than I would prefer. I used CarPlay with a touchscreen ever since the first aftermarket receiver hit the market years ago, so this is really a disappointment.

There are some subtleties in the implementation. For example, flick-scrolling for faster browsing is thankfully still supported. However, on a touchscreen you get an A—Z index on the right for skipping to a position in a long list. This is missing on the Acura interface.

Saving graces: CarPlay generally goes back to where I left off (like nav or music) after returning to the car. And I like that you can see and control the music in the right side panel while CarPlay (or HERE) nav is showing on the left; that is something I always wanted in CarPlay.

I hope Apple and OEMs can work on supporting the Acura style trackpad natively. This will improve the system substantially.
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 02:22 PM
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Do you use Siri much? I’ve used CarPlay for Maps and Spotify and thought it worked well. There aren’t many landing spots for these features so the pad was quick to use. Thankfully it’s not like an actual touchpad on a PC where you have to scroll to a specific spot. For phone calls I use Siri. But you do spend more time looking at the screen with their implementation
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Wander
Messing with the mechanism of the gas pedal would be a Very Bad Idea. Look up "unintended acceleration" if you want to know why. Try adjusting your seat position so your leg and ankle are well positioned to operate the pedal.

The pedal response is changed with the different "dynamic modes", so experiment to see what you like. You will quickly adapt to the pedal feel as you drive the car.
Thanks for trying to help, but I prefer adjusting my seating position in conjunction with steering wheel adjustment, comfort and
visibility, plus that would not change how soft or hard gas paddle feels. Also different “dynamic modes” will change throttle response but not how hard that spring in the mechanism is, witch is by the way visible if you look underneath. I’m purely talking about mechanical part of it related to spring, I would never mess electronic parts.
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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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Do you use Siri much?
That is a good point. I do use Siri quite often, and this does make up for some of the inconvenience.
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