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like2ace 11-22-2017 03:45 PM

Dealer Experience with 2017 TSBs
 
So after looking at the TSB's for our 2 month old 2017 MDX AWD Base posted, printed 4 that were applicable - PFI Software upgrade, High pressure fuel pump (HPFP) chirp and two others and headed over to my local Acura dealer to take care of those. Had recently noticed the HPFP chirp and the gas fuel door not aligned as mentioned in another posts. Anyway the first SA I saw ran my VIN and said there were no open recalls on my MDX. I insisted that these TSB are recent and would like to have them taken care of. Again he tried to blow me off saying "they couldn't do it even if they wanted to" as my VIN was showing up as recall free. Anyway I insisted and asked him to at least look at the gas cap being not flush. He hemmed and hawed about having to order the parts and me having to come back again but got no definitive plan of action.
During this time (I was thinking to call Acura after my visit to complain/report this behavior), the Service Manager saw what was going on and stepped in to handle my case. Totally different experience ! He instantly acknowledged the TSB's, scheduled the PFI software upgrade and ordered parts for the HPFP chirps and gas cap door replacement. Also appeared that he knew what I was talking about, compared to the flake I saw first. Service Manager said I would have to leave my MDX overnight to take care of the two replacements and offered a loaner MDX.

Parts will be here Monday and will update after the work has been done, but so far so good.
Bottom line - shove the TSB's down their throat and get it repaired under warranty !! Even if they have not seen the TSB or tell you that your MDX is "too new". Yes I got that line as well today

KmanM3 11-24-2017 08:17 AM

Is there a TSB for the gas door?

like2ace 11-24-2017 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by KmanM3 (Post 16137645)
Is there a TSB for the gas door?

Not that I know but it’s a known issue with the 2017 assembly line.

like2ace 11-30-2017 07:42 AM

I have asked them to look at the gas fuel flap when my car was kept overnight to fix the HPFP chirping TSB. Will ask what they did to align the fuel flap (if they tell/know honestly). Should get the X back today.......

andysinnh 11-30-2017 11:13 AM

I'm a little confused on this thread. Having been down the road of new-car ownership for nearly 5 decades, the concept of a TSB is a dealer alert as to how and address a problem when a customer observes it. I've never (to my recollection) proactively looked for a dealer to apply a fix as outlined in a TSB unless I noticed a problem. It's good to know a TSB is there should a problem arise (meaning it's not your imagination and they have a fix already in mind). I had this with a couple of issues in my '15 RDX (brake squeal, transmission shudder). But those were in place long before I noticed the issues. I'm curious as to whether the dealer was really going to address all the TSBs you pointed out, even if you didn't notice the problem?

Curious - andy

like2ace 11-30-2017 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by andysinnh (Post 16140947)
I'm a little confused on this thread. Having been down the road of new-car ownership for nearly 5 decades, the concept of a TSB is a dealer alert as to how and address a problem when a customer observes it. I've never (to my recollection) proactively looked for a dealer to apply a fix as outlined in a TSB unless I noticed a problem. It's good to know a TSB is there should a problem arise (meaning it's not your imagination and they have a fix already in mind). I had this with a couple of issues in my '15 RDX (brake squeal, transmission shudder). But those were in place long before I noticed the issues. I'm curious as to whether the dealer was really going to address all the TSBs you pointed out, even if you didn't notice the problem?

Curious - andy

All valid questions. I only asked dealer to take care of the TSB that applied to my VIN/MDX. In my case it was the HPFP Chirp, if others don't see it that's great ! TSB's are dealer alerts but how many dealers will proactively take care of it unless you point it out that it applies to your X. It's just more work for them without making any $ of you, so it slips under the radar when consumers are not aware of the vehicle (symptoms) that they drive. We all need to be observant rather than just being consumers !!

ceb 11-30-2017 07:15 PM

Most TSBs aren't something that applies to all cars in the VIN range - it just means that it "may" apply to cars in that VIN range.

Pro-actively correcting a problem that may - or may not - appear will not be reimbursed by the manufacturer.

If you have the symptom referenced in the TSB, then the dealer should fix it. If the car doesn't have the symptom, then the dealer shouldn't fix it because there is nothing to fix.

like2ace 12-01-2017 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by ceb (Post 16141425)
Most TSBs aren't something that applies to all cars in the VIN range - it just means that it "may" apply to cars in that VIN range.

Pro-actively correcting a problem that may - or may not - appear will not be reimbursed by the manufacturer.

If you have the symptom referenced in the TSB, then the dealer should fix it. If the car doesn't have the symptom, then the dealer shouldn't fix it because there is nothing to fix.

Mr. Obvious, huh ? Like your dealer tagline..

like2ace 12-01-2017 12:26 PM

TSB Update: Dealer took care of the TSB, replaced the HPFP (no chirp now) and also replaced some parts on the gas fuel flap. Flap sits flush with the body now, happy now.

mellonc 12-07-2017 04:07 PM

anyone know why acura/honda has so many TSBs every year? Im looking to switch over to 2018 MDX hybrid from my somewhat boring Lexus RX but these TSBs leads me to believe that I'd have to waste time dealing with the degenerates at the local dealers......

Lexus service appointments are so boring that I'm arguing over spots the car wash guy missed during pick up........ or things like the loaner not having the same options as my car in the shop............

jzhu625 12-08-2017 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by mellonc (Post 16145107)
anyone know why acura/honda has so many TSBs every year? Im looking to switch over to 2018 MDX hybrid from my somewhat boring Lexus RX but these TSBs leads me to believe that I'd have to waste time dealing with the degenerates at the local dealers......

Lexus service appointments are so boring that I'm arguing over spots the car wash guy missed during pick up........ or things like the loaner not having the same options as my car in the shop............


IMO Lexus service offer much better services than Acura.

bmcgowangtenet 12-15-2017 03:30 PM

What's the "PFI Software upgrade" about? Can't figure out what "PFI" stands for.

TIA...

like2ace 12-15-2017 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by bmcgowangtenet (Post 16149312)
What's the "PFI Software upgrade" about? Can't figure out what "PFI" stands for.

TIA...

Short for PGM-FI refer to TSB 15-053 replaced by 17-034.


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