Alot of these gremlin-ridden, poorly executed, multi-menu infotainment systems are killing scores for some of the big manufacturers. They are overly complicated, buried deep with sub menu after sub menu, slow, apt to freezing, etc. I haven't come across a better infotainment system than Audi's MMI. One screen, one dial close to the armrest, buttons for frequently used items, superior graphics and information, and fast. Hell my 3G TL's had far superior interfaces than the 14 MDX. There are also the group of consumers that are simply "technology stupid" and simply refuse "to learn a computer" and those people I think do unfairly pull down scores for manufacturers. But, this system in the 14 MDX downright sucks.

 

CR issue with the Honda version is not because its complicated, its because it had "bugs" ergo it didnt work appropriately for many owners. Though I havent had mine for long mine seems problem free, even the Acuralink apps work like a charm. The accords issues, as also explained, by CR were fixed by a system update we'll have to wait till next year to see how well the patch worked. People also moan and complain about Fords "my touch" I've used it a couple times on rentals Ive found it quite competent (as long as it works). The big issue is not the interfases which can be indeed quite obtuse, the issue is the amount of doodas cars now have all of which can be controlled some way or another, anyone remember a car from the 70's at best the only controls were the 5 buttons for the station presets on the AM radio if you were doing good you had an 8track that would occasionaly eat the tape! Windows used cranks,etc. A modern car has CMBS, LKAS,VSA, navigation 15 separate audio inputs variable auto wipers, seat heaters and coolers adative powertrains etc etc etc all with their particular, variable settings. The fact is that an MDX has more controls than an original 747!!!! Even when the inrfase works perfectly people may think its buggy simply because they dont know how to operate the darned thing! How many people do you know will read the 400 page manual plus 300page navi/radio manual. Even for a guy like me that prides to be tech savvy its difficult to master. It took me 2 evenings to set all the presets for my wife and me, audio presets, phone presets, acuralink (damn the VIN for everything) getting all the nannies to not being annoying. My guess is that 90% of owners would not even dream of going through the required technological ringer to get the car thoroughly to their liking. Though the dealer does most of those for you (they have to go through a 50 part checklist with you) there are things you dont know what to set to till you actually go through the settings! Lets face it cars are simply getting way too complicated for the average user.

 

This whole conversation is sort of ridiculous. I have owned 5 new Acuras and 4 new Hondas over the last 10 years. This latest MDX is definitely a step back, for numerous reasons. There absolutely is no debate. The 3G MDX is one of the first Acuras to communicate in all manner of communication, to the owner, that quality has suffered due to cost cutting. All manufacturers find creative ways to cut costs, but the Japanese have always been particularly good at hiding it. Even to a layman, the 2014 MDX appears to have lost a lot of details that make it feel expensive. On top of this, whatever build processes they've adopted for this vehicle under the covers exposes itself to the owner as well. For example, panels not only have gaps somewhere on nearly all 20 MDXs that I inspected at the dealer, they don't seem to be as thick, rigid, and well-connected to the frame as nearly all of the previous vehicles I've owned. Even my 2013 Honda Accord feels more solid. Everything from the way the doors close with a thud, to the interior door handles and arm rests. Vegas is one of those buyers that pays attention to details, like any luxury buyer should. Stop giving Acura excuses. It isn't a mass market econo brand. Just because you have lower standards and haven't had problems, doesn't mean his opinion doesn't count. Certainly our opinions matter as we are regular buyers with money to spend on luxury cars.

 

Unfortunately, when the latest generation (3G) MDX's are flying out the dealerships in ~6K unit per month, which is even more than any other previous generation (2G included) MDX's can achieve; Acura will automatically believe that people love the latest MDX more than anything else.

 

True. There are definitely a lot of improvements and good qualities about the car, it's just that they took step backs on some things that should be in a luxury car and basics that really should be in any car. These are things that people who are new to the brand or who don't sweat details, will not notice. Design choices like the lack of standard fog lights are things I can't complain over from a buyer's remorse standpoint (though I think it's bad for the brand). My problem is that some design choices have resulted in quality problems. For example, the weather guards near the top half of the hood, by the windshield, are flimsy and attach with cheap clips. I've never seen a car where you can literally pull panels and things off with almost no effort. Nothing feels solid. It's like they went the route of "cheap" and "light" as possible, and did a poor job balancing with other factors. It seems like their main goals were high margins and mainstream buyers, which equates to nothing more than volume sales. The vehicle has lost a lot of soul, which damages the brand in the long term.

 

Another example is the shiny plastic between the windows on the exterior. It is already somewhat warped and feels like it moves/is not completely fixed to the door. It feels cheap when opening and closing doors. Long term it feels like it will rip off with more use. I've owned Hyundais and Hondas that feel more solid in this regard. The MDX's details just feel very "domestic" and not very solid. The problems I've had already prove that most of these choices do in fact cause things to break/malfunction.

If anyone thinks this is nitpicking, including Acura, than they have no business in the luxury market.

 

Also, if anyone thinks the quality problems are just anecdotal, I would disagree. I've inspected over 20 other vehicles, spoken with my dealership tech leads, and other owners, and the same problems surface. The fact that my vehicle has had over 20 different issues proves that the philosophy and thorough product testing are the culprits. My MDX has misaligned panels, had a misaligned shifter cable, bolts not tightened, a wiring harness mismatch, screws missing from wheel wells, a messed up spot weld, a cracked windshield (stress fracture) for unknown reasons, cheap glue that causes door trim to come off, engine chirp noises, etc. etc. And for those of you who don't have problems yet, I guarantee some of these same issues will surface with time and use. The vehicle was rushed to market, with little testing, has been executed on a poor design philosophy, and apparently hasn't had enough employee training and resources placed on its build process. These are all things the consumer PAYS for when they throw down 50K+ dollars on a vehicle. There have already been two recalls and a bunch of TSBs for what Acura has ADMITTED to. I would place monetary bets that there will be a TSB for the hard brake pedal (in cold weather), the windshield, the engine chirp, grinding steering wheel, and a few others, that they've simply failed to find a resolution for yet. All of these problems are due to limited testing (in things like cold weather) and build process mistakes. I somehow doubt that I simply got unlucky and had ALL of these issues on my vehicle.

 

Well, I finally ditched Acura completely. I purchased the 13 MDX tech to replace my lemon 2014 tech SHAWD in October 2013. Come April, I was getting so bored with the 2G MDX as I had had 4 iterations of it since 2011. At the time of the launch of the 3G MDX and shortly thereafter, the new X5 and RR Sport was not yet available. I went an test drove a 2014 BMW X5 in April and placed an order. I received my new 2014 xDrive 3.5d M Sport diesel a couple of weeks ago...and MAN, what a difference. I realize the X5 is in another price category than the MDX when properly equipped, but it is worth the extra 15-20k IMHO. I feel much better having spent 69k for my BMW and being thrilled to look at it, drive it, listen to it's phenomenal sound system, and experience it. The 2G MDX was just missing so much tech. With the TSX outgoing and a new 2G MDX unavailable now, Acura has lost me as a customer. I don't see anything on the horizon in the near future that would win me back. The TLX had real potential as the prototype, but they 'dumbed' it's image down so much it's boring at best. It killed me to leave Acura as one of my best friends has sold me countless Acuras and the dealership treats me like a king, but I am sick of spending 50K on a vehicle that is mundane at best, missing tons of features available or standard in other cars. I'd rather spend the extra money on a more luxurious brand and receive items with high quality, fit/finish, exciting to look at, feel, touch, and hear. My mom and sister are sticking with their 14 MDX's through their problems as the vehicle is more suited to them. If anyone is interested in a comparo between 14 MDX tech SHAWD, 13 MDX Tech, 12 MDX Advance, and BMW X5 3.5 Diesel, let me know and I'll do a write-up. I only wish I had now gone for the 5.0 X5 with the V8, but I stayed fairly conservative in the X5 pricing line-up and ordered mine equipped with options that had an MSRP of 69550. There were a couple more things I wanted, but at some point the base price of the X5 Diesel was 57K (but did have standards such as NAV, pano roof, etc) and I put 12.5K worth of options. I flip cars too often and realize that most of those option buy-ins are simply loading the vehicle for the next owner and worthless at trade in. Funny, while I was typing this message, Acura Financial just emailed me my paid in full letter is on the website. LOL. Irony. Wishing everyone luck with their MDX's. I was one of the first to be outspoken of the 3G MDX as an actual early owner and went through the litany of problems I experienced. I didn't even bother to contact, write, or call Acura Client Services as they are not going to change the vehicle for one buyer or an enthusiast. They have a new target market for the MDX and that clearly is the Buick Enclave, Cadillac SRX, Hyundai Santa Fe's, Lincoln MK whatever's. I think they've given up trying to compete with the ML, X, RR, RX, etc. They just are not on the same level...though I do realize those aforementioned luxury vehicles carry much steeper price tags.

 

You are very much correct. 3G MDX and RDX are keeping the brand going and alive. Period. Acura has moved/shifted their customer focus and demographic, even in published literature to dealers, etc. They realize they can't compete with RR's, X5, ML, etc. Plus, those other marques demand much higher prices and get it. The 3G MDX's are substantially negotiable and there is money on the hood, and I suspect this has alot to do with the volume. It's a nice car, but it just doesn't command the price tag it is asking for and still offering pleather, fake wood, rattles/squeaks abound, low res infotainment with subpar sound system offerings, mundane looks, cheap/flimsy materials, and very poor fit/finish and materials. I guess when they shifted their market focus, to align with the pricing structures of the other lower-tier mid luxury offerings, something had to suffer. I can't believe you still can't get a white MDX with black interior, no available pano roof, and the 'premium' sound system lacks any power, not to mention power-folding side mirrors not even available on the Advance. Plus, to buy an advance, one must put a ridiculous TV in the back. I just wish I could infiltrate Acura corporate, stage a mutiny, and shake the living $hit out of them until they come to their senses. Start producing product with real design emotion, cutting-edge technology (not someone else's 20 y/o technology, etc). The ONLY thing Acura offers as a brand noone else can is SH-AWD, but Audi's quattro is just as good; if not better in some situations, and BMW now offer's torque vectoring, etc. WHY WHY WHY? I just guess I cannot accept Acura's downfall. I loved the brand too much, but I guess I'll have to as nothing new is on the horizon for the foreseeable future (3-5 years) except for the NSX, and this is a very low production halo vehicle. The interest has already faded after the super bowl and it's basically already forgotten except for the die-hard enthusiasts. RIP Acura (for now).

 

FYI all the window trim is coming off of my sister's 14. The black flap-like items on the top of the roof; near the tailgate, are also popping up/off. My mom's 14 is still getting continual battery warning messages even after multiple software upgrades and the newest releases. Both my sister's and mom's windows rattle like crazy, and it's become an inside joke with my family as we call them 'popcorn windows.' The other day my mom's tailgate just stopped working. Flat-out wouldn't work. Started the car. Shut it off. Opened manually and closed manually just fine. Using the FOB, nothing. Pressing the power down bottom on inside of tailgate, nothing. It's just sad. Pretty sad when my new BMW (KNOCK ON SOME SERIOUS WOOD) is far more reliable and trouble-free and doesn't require any service trips than 2 Acuras in my family.

 

Definitely annoying. I noticed this too.

 

Are the window trims held on with glue? I thought I read in this thread someone mention defective glue. I guess if it's going to fall off it's better that it does while still under warranty! Perhaps service tech will install it better.

I've seen these build quality issues you mentioned about misaligned panels and this day and age where virtually all manufacturers can do this without issues it was sad that I had to inspect all the car to make sure I didn't get one of the MDX with these build quality issues. Even so you can only check so much!

I picked up my wife's MDX Tech last week and Telematic Control Unit was defective so had to take it to dealer to have that replaced. Service advisor said it was $2k part. We are planning to keep the MDX for long time and hopefully we don't have to rebuild this car 1 part at a time....

 

I too agree with you that the Acura brand is way behind BMW and MB in terms of luxury brand recognition and luxury brand prestige.

Without V8 and RWD hardware, Acura has missed the boat big time, and will never attain the prestige luxury level as BMW and MB.

However, the only good thing about Acura is top-notch reliability, which is especially important for those who are planning to keep their vehicles longer than the standard 4-year factory warranty coverage.

Quattro is good, but Audi reliability isn't. Audi vehicles tend to fall apart starting at around the end of the 4th year of ownership, which is exactly when the factory warranty is about to expire.

Audi engineers are genius. They can so skillfully design their products to last such a precise service lifespan that deserves everyone's applause.

I previously owned first a B5 A4 and then a C6 A6. I kept the A4 for 7 years until the (7-yr) extended warranty had expired. The total repair bills had paid for the extended warranty cost almost 2x over. The A6 repair bills were about to paid for the (10-yr) extended warranty cost at year 7, then the car was totaled in a collision. It was good that the warranty plan refunded the remaining coverage balance back to me.

But still, the frequent trips to the dealership for warranty repairs are very tiring indeed.

 

Took delivery of my MDX Advance AWD yesterday. Compared to the experience we had 2 years back for the Lexus RX 350, the MDX is a shocker. Very poor build quality. Just before taking delivery I noticed the cover of the Entertainment system was missing. I asked the sales guy to show me how to operate and it would not even come on. Defective unit. It will be a month or so before a replacement unit will come. After taking delivery I noticed white paint spots on my headlamp cover. My MDX is white color. Both these defects are signs of poor build quality and horrible quality control. No way a "luxury" car should be of such shoddy workmanship. Honda has much better quality than Acura. Acura is damaging the Honda brand.

 

I agree with you about the build quality of MDX vs RX (or Acura vs Lexus). But MDX design is way better than RX in my opinion. RX looks so outdated compared to MDX and you get whole lot more value and versatility from MDX.

My wife test drove the RX and she really liked the feel of the ride (more like car) but I convinced her MDX is better SUV. Hopefully this doesn't comeback to haunt us!

I actually thought new Highlander which had similar ride to RX was better option but didn't care for truck grill or the storage shelf in the dash. RX has the one of the worst looking dash (asymmetric quarter circle) dash design in my opinion.

 

The most important thing is that RX does not have a lane keeping assist. If not for this, we would not have considered an MDX. Anyway, hoping the maintenance cost of the MDX will be less than the RX as a hoped for consolation.

 

Prestige is code for individuals who crave recognition because they have self esteem issues. Personally, I buy cars because they perform and are reliable. I have never bought a car for its "hey look at me" value that's for guys with small appliances

 

Did you do the math?

 

I only kept each one of my Audi's, 2008 A5 and 2009 S5 for one year. Experienced zero problems. So I can't personally attest to the long-term reliability. I can personally attest to the long-term reliability of 14+ Acuras I've bought new and owned, and 3 others purchased by my family. Up until this point, I fully trusted Acura (and Honda). Not anymore. They really screwed the pooch on quality and reliability on the 14 MDX. We had 3 problem plagued 14's all separated by 1000 or so production numbers, now only 2 because I dumped mine within 3 terrible months of ownership. BMW has had a bad track record with me. After 12 years, I decided it was only fair to give them another shot. The sales side sucked horribly, but so far I'm extremely impressed with the quality, features, looks, execution, and reliability. I had problems with my 14 MDX from day one.

 

I fear this is only the beginning for you, my friend. I can certainly commiserate. Do yourself a favor and don't look the MDX over with a fine-toothed comb, it will make you sick. I hope it gets better for you. Pretty sad that 15's are almost out and the last 14s are still plagued with this crap. Good luck!

 

Lexus service is exorbitantly more expensive than Acura...this much I can assure you of. Cost of ownership on the RX is nearly double. My mom had a 2011 RX450 Hybrid she traded in for the 14 MDX. It is shocking how much lower the Acura is in terms of cost of ownership.

 

one could easily use this argument to prove that if you bought the MDX to 'perform,' you were clearly mistaken as there are many others in this class that will easily outperform the MDX, but will cost you more $$$. I find that guys with big lifted trucks are doing the overcompensation thing, but to each his own.

 

No, I have not done the Math, because I do not have data. The RX has just had 2 services and the MDX is new. Only time will tell the maintenance cost. I just did the final service on my retiring 2007 CRV and at 181k miles, it has not had a single breakdown other than oil change/tire change and a battery change.

 

Enjoy your new X5! My father was originally looking at getting a new MDX but we were disappointed after test driving it. He just got a diesel ML350 that was special ordered. It came down to $67k for the ML vs $60 for the MDX. We are long time Acura fans but this latest model seems to be going after the luxury Honda Odyssey owner. The MDX Tech is a good deal but the Advance model needs more. After driving the ML it definitely deserves it price. Such a great vehicle!

 

Just curious about the MDX test drive... what did you like and dislike?

 

Unfortunately, for a wannabe luxury brand, like Acura, brand prestige is extremely important to successfully sell premium priced vehicles.

Acura has big trouble selling the $45K RL then, and the $50K RLX now.

Buyers simply balk at any Acura sedan priced above $45K, simply because the auto brand doesn't carry the same level of recognized brand prestige as for BMW and MB.

Below are the monthly sales figures for the RLX-class sedans :

E-class : 5K-6K units
5-series : 4K-6K units
RLX : 400-800 units

So it is very obvious that in reality, there are manyfold more luxury sedan buyers who have self esteem issues than all those without.

 

The MDX drives great just as it did in the previous generations. The issues we had were mainly quality, styling, and the radio. Did not like the radio interface and sometimes the same information is displayed on both screens which is just redundant. The reverse camera looked fuzzier than on my 04. My mother has a TL awd and that radio setup is very easy to use. Also the backup camera is crystal clear. We didn't take time to examine the exterior paint and panel gaps but the driver's armrest and sunroof were rattling quite loudly during the drive. Opinion on styling is subjective but the MDX is looking less like a suv and more like a tall wagon.

Quality issues aside the MDX Tech is a great value. We just weren't impressed with the advance model at $60k. Acura should have included some of the Canadian features like real wood trim and the 360 camera. Both are on the ML. I am interested to see what they do for the refresh.

 

So it is very obvious that in reality, there are manyfold more luxury sedan buyers who have self esteem issues than all those without.

You have hit the nail on the head
Most drivers of "luxury" cars are utterly ignorant of anything that has to do with cars to begin with, to them a car is simply an accessory to show others their perceived wealth. Simply the automotive version of a Gucci handbag. The fact is a car is a disposable form of transport, personally I wouldn't care if the RLX sport hybrid or the MDX had big H's on the grill as long as they performed and were as reliable as they do. Anyone that states that an
ML 350 drives better than an MDX is high on crack, the X5, at best, drives similarly, thus paying any additional money for any of those 2 is a sign of stupidity no more no less.

 

Agreed!
The rear view camera was a cheap afterthought compared to others in the market. The radio is complicated, but once you understand the logic, or lack thereof, it works great and, unlike other similar systems in the market, works flawlessly. Some people question the value proposition of the Advanced but the fact is that just the additional safety goodies LKAS, CMBS autobrake etc justify the price. That, of course, doesn't include the other goodies as larger rims, better leather, rear enterntainment system yada, yada that would run a lot more on competing vehicles. An X5 equipped to the same level as the Advanced pushes 75K, seen in that light, the advanced is a bargain.

 

Sounds like someone has self-esteem issues to defend their purchase so vigorously claiming the MDX is simply the best vehicle in its class. I; too, drove the ML350 and was not impressed with it's handling capabilities, rather soft feel, and interior appearance. I do agree that the MDX is a better driving/handling vehicle than the ML350. It's all in what a person wants. I'd personally rather spend 70K on a vehicle that invokes pure driving excitement, pleasure, looks, pizzazz, more exclusivity (MDX are a dime a dozen, X5 and ML350 seen less frequently), with the ability to order and customize to your exact tastes and color choices, and not to be forced to buy a TV to get ventilated seats or front parking sensors. I seriously doubt there is an exact duplicate of my car anywhere in the area and maybe one or two in the country. With my colors, 20" wheels, options, and a diesel. There's 100+ Black/Black MDX Tech's SHAWD floating around and there's no unique individuality or somewhat exclusiveness in that. A car DOES send a sense of accomplishment to others, whether you want to admit it or not. Some will overbuy to impress and act wealthy, others will not. But don't for a second tell me when someone is driving a $200K+ S65 AMG everyone around doesn't think they aren't at least well off. No matter if it is leased or not, a lease on one of those vehicles is $3k+ and you can be no slouch driving that vehicle, or qualifying to purchase it. Period.

 

Not true. My X5 is equipped with all the advanced has, PLUS features not even available for $69550. Diesel Engine. LED Ambiance interior lighting throughout the dash. Far superior iDrive (works fast and flawlessly), and one VERY LARGE HI RES screen. Pano roof. HUD. 20" rims 20x10 front and 20x11 rear with 315 series tires. 20 way power multicontour seats. REAL leather that feels like leather. Harmon Kardon sound system that sounds incredible. Driving dynamics system (sport+, sport, comfort, eco pro). 8 SPEED SPORT TRANSMISSION. M Suspension. Soft Close power doors. LED fogs standard. Pano Roof Standard. Adpative LED headlights, tailights, and turn signals, M sport body kit, real aluminum trim, heated/cooled seats, power folding mirrors, etc etc all for 69550 MSRP. The ONLY three things my X5 doesn't have the advanced has is a TV/TVs (don't want it), radar cruise, and a 3rd row (don't want or need it). I get 28MPG HWY and 20 CITY. 1700 miles and have only been to gas station 4 times. diesel is also substantially cheaper than premium in my area.

 

Thank you so much. I really wanted to like the MB and it is pretty much the only luxury marque I've never owned. I drove it on 3 separate occasions over the course of 6 months, and just didn't love it. Thought the seats lacked proper support and were stiff (I'm 6'3 190), even with the multi-contour option. I did think the hot stone massage feature was cool though that you couldn't get in the BMW). I didn't care much for the interior layout. The biggest thing that sent me to the BMW was the ML's driving characteristics. It just felt very soft and small to me. I do think it's a good-looking vehicle when properly equipped (Sport + one package) in the right color (I wanted palladium silver - but think the diamond white and black is also stunning). I also thought the diesel engine in the BMW was stronger, quieter, and better performing. I HAVE heard the off road package really improves the drive, but it is steep at 5K and must be special ordered. I hope your dad (and you) enjoy the ML350! It's a very nice ride and no slouch.

 

Bring it over to Wisconsin and we'll take to the track so I can run a few laps on you. You are so full of SH#T. You have swapped your 2014 MDX for 2 cars in 3mths, how stupid do you think we are? Go buy yourself a pacifier and some pampers and stop trolling around here
BTW I went to BMWUSA and an x5 diesel equipped anywhere near to an MDX Advanced is 80K plus, so more BS emanating from your keyboard

 

People have different tastes and priorities. That's why there are so many different cars and options in the market. He chose the ML over the X5 because he wanted the extra cargo capacity. Also wanted a smooth ride coming from a stiff A4. I was able to take a quick ride in it the other day and the adaptive cruise control is pretty neat. Should be great for long trips.
The MDX was his second choice because of the cargo capacity and lower price. He just didn't love it enough for some of the reasons I mentioned above. No need to make arguments here. All are great SUV choices.

This thread is getting a little off topic. The OP has moved on after his bad experience with the new MDX. We will just have to wait and see if Acura addresses some of the issues experienced by owners.

 

It was a mistake for Honda/Acura to move production of the MDX out of Canada. Up there in Canada they had a mature production with a well trained and experienced staff and top quality assembly. It will take 2-3 years for the plant in Alabama to mature and the people to learn what quality is all about. They may be saving a couple of dollars from the payroll, but then again they are producing cars with doors that don't align well. Thats a bit sad.

 

Fully agree.

 

My my my, green is not a good color on you. Let me get this straight - I post a valid argument with proof of all the problems I had with my 14 MDX. I am conversing with other owners and now MANY others have come forward since my original post. You show up, a 3G MDX fanboy unwilling to hear any constructive criticism or anything negative about your precious; best vehicle in the world 3G MDX, and then chastise me, my home, everything else? You seriously need counseling. Further, Wisconsin? LOL. No wonder you're so crotchety. I'd be pissed if I was there, too. I'll stick between my homes in Newport Beach CA and Las Vegas, NV. AND YES! I purchased a 14 MDX in July of 2013. Dumped it in October for a 13 MDX because it was horrible. Drove the 13 MDX and missed some of the tech from the 14 (when it worked). I've been completely let down by Acura. So I went to BMW and took a chance on a 14 X5. So far, it's been WELL worth it. Call me a troll or whatever you want. I've proven every point I've brought up and backed it up with evidence. This thread was reborn with new owners finding it in the archives as they are now experiencing alot of the same problems I was. I'll continue to post on MY THREAD! If you don't like it, do yourself a favor and do not follow the post any longer. If you'd like proof of all 35 other new luxury vehicles I've purchased since I was 18, including the newest X5, I'd be happy to provide that, too.

 

Agreed. Congrats to your dad again on the ML. I saw my first ML63 on the road yesterday. What a beast!! I am amazed at how smooth the ride is on my X5 with the 20" Rims, M Suspension, and just because it's a BMW. Far smoother than my 7 series was years ago. I've even got the dreaded Dunlap runflats everyone on Bimmerfest complains about. Fingers crossed it continues! Every vehicle in this class; or just inside or outside of it, has strong points about it. I don't think you can really go wrong except for the Infiniti JX (QX60) as I really have heard alot of bad press on that vehicle, except for storage and seating configurability. Haven't driven one but I am not at all attracted to its styling, and I think Infiniti is not going to outlive its last ditched effort to be saved. Nissan almost folded it before this last attempt. We will see. Competition in the market normally equals a win for the consumer. Take care.

 

[QUOTE=Vegas_TL04;15050043]My my my, green is not a good color on you. Let me get this straight - I post a valid argument with proof of all the problems I had with my 14 MDX. I am conversing with other owners and now MANY others have come forward since my original post. You show up, a 3G MDX fanboy unwilling to hear any constructive criticism or anything negative about your precious; best vehicle in the world 3G MDX, and then chastise me, my home, everything else? You seriously need counseling. Further, Wisconsin? LOL. No wonder you're so crotchety. I'd be pissed if I was there, too. I'll stick between my homes in Newport Beach CA and Las Vegas, NV. AND YES! I purchased a 14 MDX in July of 2013. Dumped it in October for a 13 MDX because it was horrible. Drove the 13 MDX and missed some of the tech from the 14 (when it worked). I've been completely let down by Acura. So I went to BMW and took a chance on a 14 X5. So far, it's been WELL worth it. Call me a troll or whatever you want. I've proven every point I've brought up and backed it up with evidence. This thread was reborn with new owners finding it in the archives as they are now experiencing alot of the same problems I was. I'll continue to post on MY THREAD! If you don't like it, do yourself a favor and do not follow the post any longer. If you'd like proof of all 35 other new luxury vehicles I've purchased since I was 18, including the newest X5, I'd be happy to provide that, too.[/QUOTE

Riggghhhtttt

Then you woke up and fond it was all a dream while driving a Yaris. Yep I bought a Ferrari but it had too many defects so I swapped for a reliable NSX, but I missed having Bluetooth so I swapped it for a Veyron...........

 

[QUOTE=RL06tech;15050616]Did it ever occur to you that people with the means, motivation, and excitement for cars might just trade their vehicles several times, maybe even twice or 3 times a year? I know many people in my circle that Drop 120K on a new S-Class, get an itch 6 months later, and dump the S class for a Ranger Rover. Happens all the time. I think your problem is you just don't have the means to do this; therefore, you can't justify or imagine someone who is 34, successful, and has the means to do so. I'm not in any way trying to discredit you or others who don't have the means, or simply don't want to trade cars often. Everyone has their vices. Do I have the means to get a 14 S Class? Yes. Do I want one? Yes. But I am willing to pay 120K for it and have it be worth 70k in 3 months, no! It's all in what people want. Try visiting a BMW, MB, or Audi dealership and ask them about the 6 month old vehicles they have on their lot. I have a friend in the business at MB, one client of theirs trades his 100K+ MB's every SIX MONTHS! Try providing meaningful advice, discussion, or experience rather than chastising people who come to this board with valid concerns, arguments, and experiences. Attacking someone's character or continually challenging them to prove what they are reporting becomes tiresome. I can't tell you how many threads I've read in several days of new potential owners concerned. I've had several members PM me and thank me for advising the problems, sharing my experiences, and asking how I handled everything. etc.