Any bought a 2016 MDX yet ?
02-19-2015, 05:36 AM
#2
The current deals on the 2015 are amazing. You should test drive both and decide if the 9 speed is to your liking.
02-21-2015, 06:57 AM
#3
Racer
I have a few 2016 orders aiready spoken for, but for no other reason than the clients just want the latest possible model year even if they have to wait for it, and price isn't the biggest concern.
Same vehicle, other than the 9-speed that will likely be smoother.
02-21-2015, 02:41 PM
#4
Agreed. And the 2015 with the 6-speed has better MPG ratings, so keep that in mind as well.
I have a few 2016 orders aiready spoken for, but for no other reason than the clients just want the latest possible model year even if they have to wait for it, and price isn't the biggest concern.
Same vehicle, other than the 9-speed that will likely be smoother.
I have a few 2016 orders aiready spoken for, but for no other reason than the clients just want the latest possible model year even if they have to wait for it, and price isn't the biggest concern.
Same vehicle, other than the 9-speed that will likely be smoother.
02-22-2015, 09:28 AM
#5
Racer
No special lease programs on 2016 MDX's yet, as there's no inventory and a lot of 2015's to go. We just released 2016 ILX lease programs, since there will be more inventory of that car soon. I wouldn't expect MDX for a bit yet, until more 2015's are sold clear.
02-23-2015, 11:19 AM
#6
Agreed. And the 2015 with the 6-speed has better MPG ratings, so keep that in mind as well.
I have a few 2016 orders aiready spoken for, but for no other reason than the clients just want the latest possible model year even if they have to wait for it, and price isn't the biggest concern.
Same vehicle, other than the 9-speed that will likely be smoother.
I have a few 2016 orders aiready spoken for, but for no other reason than the clients just want the latest possible model year even if they have to wait for it, and price isn't the biggest concern.
Same vehicle, other than the 9-speed that will likely be smoother.
Thanks, but the 1 mile difference is not a deal breaker, prefer the smoothness of he 9 speed tranny. Just wanted someone's opinion on the 9 speed tranny from an actual owner.
02-25-2015, 09:54 PM
#7
Racer
Back to back driving the 2016 is smoother and quieter from a power train perspective, as the shorter gearing makes it feel more energetic and not have to rev as high. Ride, handling, steering, quietness, etc. all identical, but the power application is very different and makes the MDX feel more effortless and smooth.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
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02-26-2015, 01:25 PM
#8
Back to back driving the 2016 is smoother and quieter from a power train perspective, as the shorter gearing makes it feel more energetic and not have to rev as high. Ride, handling, steering, quietness, etc. all identical, but the power application is very different and makes the MDX feel more effortless and smooth.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
Thanks beach109, it looks like the 9speed on the MDX is a winner. Seems Acura has fixed that lag in the TLX.
02-26-2015, 05:49 PM
#9
Back to back driving the 2016 is smoother and quieter from a power train perspective, as the shorter gearing makes it feel more energetic and not have to rev as high. Ride, handling, steering, quietness, etc. all identical, but the power application is very different and makes the MDX feel more effortless and smooth.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
Better yet, it doesn't seem to have the odd lag the AWD TLX with 9-speed is prone to, and it moves strongly.
02-26-2015, 06:42 PM
#10
Intermediate
OK...no flaming the newbie. I just leased a 2016 AWD/Tech today. My 4th Acura, but 1st MDX. Gave it a thorough test drive over a couple of days. Drove the 2015 and 2016 back-to-back and found the 2016 to be a noticeably smoother, quieter ride.
02-26-2015, 06:53 PM
#11
Racer
It's more of a "click click click" instead of higher revving then shifting, in the 9-speed. As a passenger you don't notice much, as a driver you feel it.
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2012wagon (02-27-2015)
02-26-2015, 10:18 PM
#13
Thanks for the feedback. I'm looking at purchasing/leasing my first MDX, and while I liked my short test drive with the 2015 (months back), I think I might like a smoother throttle response and smoothness of a 9 speed. I'll go drive one.
02-27-2015, 04:21 AM
#14
The way the power is applied through the more widely ratio'd 9-speed makes a nice difference, and keeps the engine quieter. Otherwise, ride, handling, road, etc. are identical in feel.
It's more of a "click click click" instead of higher revving then shifting, in the 9-speed. As a passenger you don't notice much, as a driver you feel it.
It's more of a "click click click" instead of higher revving then shifting, in the 9-speed. As a passenger you don't notice much, as a driver you feel it.
02-27-2015, 12:47 PM
#15
02-27-2015, 04:54 PM
#16
The 9-speed issue is not really with the upshifting...it should do well there. The (inherent) problem is with DOWNshifting at highway speed to pass someone...for example, when it downshifts from 8th gear to 4th to pass. The dog clutches take time and torque reduction is huge and lag.
2016 Acura MDX Specifications & Features - MDX - Acura News
Gear Ratios 2016 | 2010-2015
1st 4.713 | 14.277:1
2nd 2.842 | 8.903:1
3rd 1.909 | 6.311:1
4th 1.382 | 4.527:1
5th 1 | 3.207:1
6th 0.808 | 2.361:1
7th 0.699 | N/A
8th 0.58 | N/A
9th 0.48 |N/A
Reverse 3.83 | 9.645:1
Final Drive 4.33 | ?
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02-27-2015, 05:17 PM
#17
2012 Acura MDX - Powertrain - MDX - Acura News
2016 Acura MDX Specifications & Features - MDX - Acura News
Gear Ratios 2016 | 2010-2015
1st 4.713 | 14.277:1
2nd 2.842 | 8.903:1
3rd 1.909 | 6.311:1
4th 1.382 | 4.527:1
5th 1 | 3.207:1
6th 0.808 | 2.361:1
7th 0.699 | N/A
8th 0.58 | N/A
9th 0.48 |N/A
Reverse 3.83 | 9.645:1
Final Drive 4.33 | ?
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2016 Acura MDX Specifications & Features - MDX - Acura News
Gear Ratios 2016 | 2010-2015
1st 4.713 | 14.277:1
2nd 2.842 | 8.903:1
3rd 1.909 | 6.311:1
4th 1.382 | 4.527:1
5th 1 | 3.207:1
6th 0.808 | 2.361:1
7th 0.699 | N/A
8th 0.58 | N/A
9th 0.48 |N/A
Reverse 3.83 | 9.645:1
Final Drive 4.33 | ?
---
The gear Ratios for the 210-2015 MDX does not look right, so I am including the 2015 RDX 6 speed for reference.
1st 3.359:1
2nd 2.094:1
3rd 1.484:1
4th 1.065:1
5th 0.754:1
6th 0.555:1
reverse 2.269:1
final 4.250:1
2015 Acura RDX Specifications - RDX - Acura News
02-27-2015, 08:34 PM
#19
Racer
Simpler put.
The 2016 MDX power train feels more refined and doesn't rev as much, with the extra and closer gears. Feels smoother, and effortless.
The 2015 MDX with the 6-speed feels more aggressive and sharper out of the gate, and moves perfectly without any delay.
I did a test back to back and cruising on the highway at 65-70mph, the 9-speed 2016 is cruising at 500 rpm lower than the 2015. Mileage ratings are lower but I would venture to say real world mileage should be even higher, all depends on your driving cycle.
We'll see. I enjoy both similarly, and the classic 6-speed with normal shifter is easier to use without car wash mode, etc. difficulties.
The 2016 MDX power train feels more refined and doesn't rev as much, with the extra and closer gears. Feels smoother, and effortless.
The 2015 MDX with the 6-speed feels more aggressive and sharper out of the gate, and moves perfectly without any delay.
I did a test back to back and cruising on the highway at 65-70mph, the 9-speed 2016 is cruising at 500 rpm lower than the 2015. Mileage ratings are lower but I would venture to say real world mileage should be even higher, all depends on your driving cycle.
We'll see. I enjoy both similarly, and the classic 6-speed with normal shifter is easier to use without car wash mode, etc. difficulties.
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02-27-2015, 09:30 PM
#20
Simpler put.
The 2016 MDX power train feels more refined and doesn't rev as much, with the extra and closer gears. Feels smoother, and effortless.
The 2015 MDX with the 6-speed feels more aggressive and sharper out of the gate, and moves perfectly without any delay.
I did a test back to back and cruising on the highway at 65-70mph, the 9-speed 2016 is cruising at 500 rpm lower than the 2015. Mileage ratings are lower but I would venture to say real world mileage should be even higher, all depends on your driving cycle.
We'll see. I enjoy both similarly, and the classic 6-speed with normal shifter is easier to use without car wash mode, etc. difficulties.
The 2016 MDX power train feels more refined and doesn't rev as much, with the extra and closer gears. Feels smoother, and effortless.
The 2015 MDX with the 6-speed feels more aggressive and sharper out of the gate, and moves perfectly without any delay.
I did a test back to back and cruising on the highway at 65-70mph, the 9-speed 2016 is cruising at 500 rpm lower than the 2015. Mileage ratings are lower but I would venture to say real world mileage should be even higher, all depends on your driving cycle.
We'll see. I enjoy both similarly, and the classic 6-speed with normal shifter is easier to use without car wash mode, etc. difficulties.
03-02-2015, 09:36 AM
#21
I drove the 2016 9 speed. I did not test back-to-back with a 2015. I did find it very smooth with shifts up and down barely discernible.
I did drive a 2011 (or 12) maybe 2 months back. I liked it, but the 2016 feels better. I can't say how much of that is the general improvements with this generation.
I did drive a 2011 (or 12) maybe 2 months back. I liked it, but the 2016 feels better. I can't say how much of that is the general improvements with this generation.
03-02-2015, 12:04 PM
#22
I drove the 2016 9 speed. I did not test back-to-back with a 2015. I did find it very smooth with shifts up and down barely discernible.
I did drive a 2011 (or 12) maybe 2 months back. I liked it, but the 2016 feels better. I can't say how much of that is the general improvements with this generation.
I did drive a 2011 (or 12) maybe 2 months back. I liked it, but the 2016 feels better. I can't say how much of that is the general improvements with this generation.
Just test drove the 2016 MDX over the weekend, the 9 speed is very smooth just like what the other members on this forum has mention. The shifts are very quick and crisp, very luxurious feeling, not jerky like the old 6 speed.
03-02-2015, 12:07 PM
#23
So when you gonna pick up the 2016?
03-02-2015, 02:04 PM
#24
Pro
We don't really drive it in Sport mode though. Was it jerky in Sport mode for you?
03-02-2015, 02:22 PM
#25
I also do not think the 6-speed is jerky at all.
03-02-2015, 05:30 PM
#26
Racer
i agree, people can say the 6 speed is fine (i'm sure it is) but at end of the day if you're getting a brand new 50k premium SUV, wouldn't you want the latest greatest of everything on it? even if you get the '15 for a steep discount now, but the resale value of it will drop a lot faster than the post '16 ones down the road. but if you're those folks who keep their cars forever, then this reply does not apply to you.
03-02-2015, 06:08 PM
#27
i agree, people can say the 6 speed is fine (i'm sure it is) but at end of the day if you're getting a brand new 50k premium SUV, wouldn't you want the latest greatest of everything on it? even if you get the '15 for a steep discount now, but the resale value of it will drop a lot faster than the post '16 ones down the road. but if you're those folks who keep their cars forever, then this reply does not apply to you.
(Hint: sometimes, an update can be problematic.)
03-02-2015, 06:14 PM
#28
Maybe, jerky is not he right word. Let me explain, I am driving on the highway and when I stomp on the gas to pass the tranny downshifts from 6 to a lower gear, I get that "jolt".
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03-03-2015, 08:59 AM
#30
Racer
Seeing the gear ratios of the first few gears of 9-speed, i am not sure that i understand your driving experience. 9-speed has much lower (numerically higher) ratios in the first few gears, which should make it snappier on acceleration from stop. And with it shifting constantly thru the many gears, the "smoothness" will be interrupted frequently...because remember, each shift means interruption of power delivery.
03-03-2015, 11:26 AM
#31
Pro
Huh? I don't think the resale value of my MDX is affected one way or other by the '16 getting the 9-speed. Maybe if I sold it tomorrow, but in 1-2 years it will mean nothing. In fact, if you get the '15 at a steep discount, you will be doing even better than someone paying close to MSRP or so for a '16 on re-sale.
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2012wagon (03-03-2015)
03-03-2015, 11:55 AM
#32
03-03-2015, 12:25 PM
#33
Ok, just read a little bit about the 2016 Honda Pilot...honestly to me looks very much like the MDX. I actually like the physical button setup for the A/C versus the touch-screen for the MDX. Very interesting.
2016 Honda Pilot SUV - Official Site
2016 Honda Pilot SUV - Official Site
03-03-2015, 02:23 PM
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03-03-2015, 02:39 PM
#35
03-15-2015, 09:02 AM
#36
I feel the need...
I can't stress this enough because it is so readily apparent to me after putting 10k miles on our 2014 SH-AWD MDX Tech/Ent and 7k miles on 2015 SH-AWD TLX Tech with the exact same engine.
The 9AT is phooey. Very high level analysis for your reading pleasure.
If you're on the fence between getting a good deal on leftover 15's or waiting for the 9AT's, buy the old school 6AT and you can thank me later.
The 9AT is phooey. Very high level analysis for your reading pleasure.
If you're on the fence between getting a good deal on leftover 15's or waiting for the 9AT's, buy the old school 6AT and you can thank me later.
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