My Eibachs have been on a couple weeks now and seem to have fully settled. The rear has settled quite a bit since installing them and the overall drop is a lot more (theoretically) than what Eibach initially advertised. They advertise a 1" drop front and rear when in actuality it's more like 1.3"F/1.5"R.

So anyways, the camber in the front is fine and there doesn't appear to be any visible change. Any change that may exist should easily be corrected with an alignment. The rear however is quite noticeable. I've never dealt with camber issues in the past and am wondering how much of an issue this may be. I have an appointment Saturday to get an oil change and 4-wheel alignment. My question is, does it appear that most of the negative camber can/will be corrected with the alignment? Or do you think I'll end up needing a camber kit? I don't want there to be any significant wear on the inside of my tires. If I need a camber kit, then maybe I'll hold off on the alignment for now.

Here's some pics:

 

there shouldn't be any problem with the negative camber, as it is not that negative. You will barely see more wear on the inside of the tires but I don't think it's going to be such a huge deal. I actually think it looks really good.

 

Well I guess most of it might be corrected with the alignment Saturday.

 

can we get some more side shots

(your other pictures have shadows and you cant see the tire->fender ratio)

 

You can easily see the camber in all these pics. What would you need more side shots for?

 

To drool over your car.

And camber? What camber? (jk)

 

if you look closely at a stock TSX, the rear wheels run a slight bit of negative camber.
with the springs you have obviously increased that.

do you need a camber kit? no.
will your alignment put your camber in spec without one? no.
does it need to be in spec? no.

camber is not the enemy of tires. toe is. you can keep the negative camber that
you have right now and experience very little inner tread tire wear. if your toe
was off, then you would have a big tire wear problem.

so do you need a camber kit to correct toe? no.

the only reason you need a camber kit is if you don't personally like the negative
camber you have now. with proper toe specs you will encounter little to no tire
wear issues with your current camber. but if you want to be extra careful, like if
you run super soft tires like I do that are very prone to wear, then you may want
the camber kit for peace of mind. of if you don't like the look of negative camber,
then you can get the kit to straighten them out for asthetic reasons.
the slight negative camber you have now should improve your handling a bit in the
twisties, it's not a bad thing really.

the alignment is key no matter what. and be sure toe is within spec. no matter what.
our stock suspension allows for plenty of toe adjustment in 99% of the cases.

 

ya thats right...the stock tsx has -1 degree camber

 

Can I get an A-Men?!?

 

Results of my alignment:



As you can see, the rear camber is at -2.5 & -2.4 degrees, everything else is pretty normal. The service advisor said that I will see significant wear on the inside of the tire and recommended that I get a camber kit.

But is he exaggerating? I don't often look at camber numbers, truely how bad are these measurements? I'd like to keep it this way if I'm not really going to see any MAJOR tire wear on the inside, but if I am going to see a significant amount of wear, then I'll pick up a camber kit.

Comments?

 

The camber angle does eat away at the tire, but certainly not at the rate a misaligned toe would. It's hard to quantify how much the camber is eating at your tire without some observations, maybe its negligible? I agree with MMsTsx, ultimately the camber kit might give you peace of mind (if not much else), but IMHO peace of mind can go a long way...

 

I wouldn't worry too much about the camber. As stated before, it is the toe that would cause most problems. I've been running on negative camber on the rear (~2 deg) for about 10k miles and I haven't noticed any noticeable "extra" wear on the inside.

 

Well I really have no other choice for the time being since there's no CU2 specific camber kits available.

 

2.4 and 2.5 is a bit much.
I'd feel better between 1.5 and 2 myself.

rotate every 5k miles to be safe and keep uneven wear non-existent.

 

Will do. Then once a camber kit becomes available I'll pick one up.

 

PEOPLE! negative camber does NOT drastically affect the wear on your tires. As long as you get a tire rotation every 5-7k miles you will be fine!

TOE kills tires, out or in, toe will destroy your tires. as long as your toe is close to zero, then you will be fine!

ah the misconceptions about suspension settings.

 

Uh, I think that's pretty much what everyone else stated, did you read the entire thread?

 

^ I guess not. lol.

 

I think you'll must install a camber kit if you don't want eat your tyre in a short time.....
sure it's a small "cambering" but I think it's better to instal a camber kit....

 

I'm planning on buying on, unfortunately there's not one available for the 2nd gen yet.

 

I know,I'm waiting too....
I have a contact with SPC, Ingall's and Sugura performance in japan....
but no information yet...

 

imo yes you will need a camber kit. in the mean time just make sure you rotate your tires more often than normal

 

Why must people repeat things so many times?

 

because we love that !!!!

 

I did. Was just reiterating it I suppose.

anyways i think negative camber looks good, it also doesnt hurt that it will make you car handle better.

 

Why? because half the people say you need one and half say you don't. Thing is, nobody is giving any support to their opinions. I happen to know MMsTSx is qualified to comment. Still, check this article out that I wrote. It will give you all the information you need to make a decision (I know you already did make a decision, but for everyone coming in here saying you need a kit to save the tires...you are wrong and the article will tell you why).

http://heeltoeauto.com/httech/YaBB.pl?num=1162587420

 

After a month of use, what do you think about the comfort of your car?

 

It's absolutely perfect. The Eibachs aren't nearly as "stiff" as I thought they'd be, they're pretty close comfort-wise to the stock springs. However you can definitely notice a difference in cornering.

 

Hey Darren are you planning on getting the RSB for this car? I think I may be ordering mine tomorrow. Still haven't decided on which springs to get though. I may even wait for the Tein SS to be available.

 

I was in this position a few months ago and got advice from Mr.heeltoe...take it...it's true! Thanks again!

I have Tein SS on my 3rd Gen TL and I am running -1.1 front and -2.4 rear camber...

So far...no issues and it's been a good 3 months and 4K miles. Tires are not wearing unevenly. Save the money and rotate the tires when you change the oil.

 

I'm not sure yet. I've thought about it but I just don't know. I don't drive the car hard enough to where I think I'd really even notice a difference with it. Plus, I don't want to start stiffening the chassis so much that comfort begins to be compromised.