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SinCityTLX 06-25-2011 08:32 PM

Just received my Tein H tech springs...pics to come on Monday....
 
I have a set of Tein H Techs I just received, They look very well made and come with the spring rubber insulators so the soft part of the progressive coil does not clank on each other.

I love the look of progressive springs how the coil spacing differs from top to bottom. I am excited to see how my car handles and rides when I am done.

I have 245/40/19 tires with 19x8 RDX wheels. I have had this set on for about 15000 miles and have never once come close to rubbing, so I doubt they will rub with the mild drop of the Teins.

ttk5 06-26-2011 09:12 PM

about time!

Mr. NC 06-26-2011 09:35 PM

I wanna see pics of this, this is the set I'm lookin at as well :D

SinCityTLX 06-26-2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by ttk5 (Post 13050908)
about time!

It did take me a while.

ttk5 06-26-2011 11:08 PM

I have 245/40/19 on my rear with H&R springs. I rub sometimes when I have passengers in the car and I am turning my wheel. Hopefully you will be ok.

SinCityTLX 06-26-2011 11:45 PM

What offset are your wheels. H&R springs are lower than these by approx. 1/2 inch, I would imagine I should be good. I have never rubbed and I have definately bottomed out the suspension. The path the wheel travels will still be the same so if I didn't rub then, I shouldn't rub after install either. At least in theory.

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 12:14 AM

Well here are the pics. They kinda suck because it is night time in my garage. I will take better pics tomorrow or the next day.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0900.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0898.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0897.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0896.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0895.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0894.jpg

and 1 for good measure of the Gixxer 1000:
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0901.jpg

NO RUB AT ALL. I drove the shit out of it too over bumps where the shocks bottomed out to see what it could and could not handle. So far it can do whatever it could have done stock.

A lot of people say that the Tein Htech dont lower enough. Well if so many people didn't run annorexic skinny low pro tires they are great. I think having a car slammed it ghetto fab any how. It fills the wheel wells perfectly with the 245/40/19 tires I have.

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 08:02 PM

and finally, the money shots before washing....
 
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0903.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0904.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0905.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0906.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0907.jpg

measurement after lowering in rear, it was 27.5 inches prior to lowering.
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0908.jpg

measurement in front after lowering, it was 27.5 as well prior to lowering.
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0909.jpg

They lowered a little more than I anticipated, but I like it. I need to get 5mm rear spacers now because the 245s look tucked on the 45mm offset RDX wheels. And yall though it would rub, I told you it wouldn't, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

loner 06-28-2011 09:53 PM

That looks just awesome. How's the ride?

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 09:59 PM

Thanks for the comment. As you can see in one of the pics the dealer decided to take a chunk out of one of the wheels pulling it in the car wash. They are supposedly going to fix it for me though. I said I do not want it fixed with filler, but I wanted it welded. Then they squirmed and said they may just give me a new wheel. I left the damage wheel at the dealership for them to decide on the easiest way to fix it.

It rides pretty good. Not quite as soft as stock because when the progressive spring stiffens up under compression it firms up quick. And I notice that it rebounds fast after hitting bumps, so the rebound on the stock shocks is a little soft. It take dips and big bumps good though and rides pretty smooth. It is the small abrupt bumps where you can feel a difference. It is something that most people would not notice though. I say they are good and worth the money. I do need to get an alignment though as the car pulls to the right now and tramlines a smidge.

ed_423 06-28-2011 09:59 PM

nicee, i am one of the people that thinks h tech doesnt drop enough, but from the pic it looks pretty nice

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 10:16 PM

I have 1/2 finger gap up front and 1 full finger in the rear. I think it sits about perfect if they don't sag much more. I took the car through its paces so they should not sag too much more.

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 10:18 PM

My favorite, I will take more once I get it detailed tomorrow.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...IMG_0906-1.jpg

KillerG 06-28-2011 10:24 PM

so the fronts lower than the rear now o_0?

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13056418)
so the fronts lower than the rear now o_0?

You can;t really tell by looking at it, but yes. They appear to sit lower in the rear stock, but the look like they sag in the rear. It is only 1/2 inch difference and it looks pretty good to me.

ed_423 06-28-2011 10:35 PM

i actually like how some cars are nose diving. pretty sexy IMO

KillerG 06-28-2011 10:40 PM

thats interesting cause i figured the front would still be higher.

is it possible...that the springs are reversed? this might be a dumb question but yeah, stock front is a decent amount higher than rear so im just confuse :O

ed_423 06-28-2011 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13056458)
thats interesting cause i figured the front would still be higher.

is it possible...that the springs are reversed? this might be a dumb question but yeah, stock front is a decent amount higher than rear so im just confuse :O

i think a lot of springs/coils do front lower than back. H&R front is a tiny bit lower than back. the S tech from teins is lower in the front as well.

KillerG 06-28-2011 11:00 PM

so they over compensate instead of evening out on purpose? or is it hard to predict cause the springs settle however they feel like it

ed_423 06-28-2011 11:46 PM

if u look at the specs for some springs. it'll say that the front will lower the back more. while others like eibach states its 1" all around

SinCityTLX 06-28-2011 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13056458)
thats interesting cause i figured the front would still be higher.

is it possible...that the springs are reversed? this might be a dumb question but yeah, stock front is a decent amount higher than rear so im just confuse :O

I measured before I put the Teins on....3 corners were 27.5 inches from ground to bottom of fender lip, and the right rear was 28 inches from ground to bottom of fender lip. I measured 4 tsxs on the lot that were brand new and they were all the same within 1/4 inch.
My car now after drop measures 26.5 inches up front and 27 inches on the left rear and 27.4 on the right rear. I attribute less lean due to the firmer spring rate of the Teins supporting the weight difference better, so it leans a smidge less. Remember the gas tank is on the driver side, stupid they did this but it is. The Japanese need to copy the Germans on some of these important design features.

KillerG 06-28-2011 11:58 PM

arlighty then...last questions... hows the ride?

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13056495)
so they over compensate instead of evening out on purpose? or is it hard to predict cause the springs settle however they feel like it

The are designed to pretty darn specific specs. They should be within 3mm of claimed amount. I lost a lot of height up front, more than claimed. Tein claims a front drop of 1.2", but mine dropped almost 1.5". The rear on droped about .5-.6. I would say shame on Tein for not being more accurate, but the drop is decent, more than you expect from H specs in my opinion. I sure hope they don't sag more. Ill be tucking tire when I have a full car of people.

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13056597)
arlighty then...last questions... hows the ride?

Ride is good, the only complaint I have is when you hit abrupt bumps, like road costruction where they don't smooth it out, a smidge jarring on those kind of bumps that you should try to avoid anyways. It rides great on the freeway and very sporty. It seems to ride very smooth and solid, are they as good as coilovers, HELL NO, but they are also $600 or so less than a decent set of coilovers. Do I think they are worth it, Yes. Would I get them if like a super smooth ride and would complain the stock ride is a little firm, NO. But I am 31 years old and drive clients around on frequent occasion and i think they will be fine and un noticeable to passengers when driving normal. Now when you push it they firm up well as the progressive spring compresses it gets firm quick, very little body lean in the turns. Hits big slow bumps on the freeway well.
When someone comes out with shorter aftermarket shocks I may consider them, but I will wait for my stockers to blow first.

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 12:07 AM

Ill take better pics after I get it washed tomorrow.

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 12:10 AM

The rear tires did camber in quiet a bit, that makes the rear look lower, but also raises the fender. Once I get the camber more lever the rear will drop a little and the rears fender well appearance will look a little higher as well. 5mm spacers in the rear would look good, but they don't make them hubcentric on to where you can safely run them without new lugs, so I will forego the spacer idea and keep with my conservative style.

09TSXTech 06-29-2011 02:46 AM

Looks great.

Wait a week and get an alignment done once the springs settled.

ttk5 06-29-2011 03:08 PM

looks perfect with your tire specs. With 245/35 there is still some gap but looks like your almost tucking fronts. gjob!

Mr. NC 06-29-2011 06:40 PM

Thats a sick drop! If you hadn't said anything I woulda taken those as S-Techs for sure.

From my understanding it looks lower in the front/it's raking cuz of the body lines? Ie the car is normally level, but the fenders do not match up because of the body lines, ie the back would have a higher cut cuz of the trunk etc whereas the front looks lower since its the hood is naturally lower than the trunk (If any of this makes any sense at all.)

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Mr. NC (Post 13058336)
Thats a sick drop! If you hadn't said anything I woulda taken those as S-Techs for sure.

From my understanding it looks lower in the front/it's raking cuz of the body lines? Ie the car is normally level, but the fenders do not match up because of the body lines, ie the back would have a higher cut cuz of the trunk etc whereas the front looks lower since its the hood is naturally lower than the trunk (If any of this makes any sense at all.)

Here is a simple way of saying it "looks level, rear really higher"

Thanks for the comments. Ill take pics now since my detailer just got done. Now that its clean and lowered I find 3 small dents on my rear passenger pillar, hard to see but I know they are there. I am going to see if I can have a PDR guy fix it for $50 or so.

5thTo2nd 06-29-2011 08:50 PM

that looks amazing. A lot more drop than expected for htechs

madeguy76 06-29-2011 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by sincitytsx (Post 13056399)
I have 1/2 finger gap up front and 1 full finger in the rear.

Thats what she said...
sorry, I read that & could not help myself.

SinCityTLX 06-29-2011 11:57 PM

And here are the pics after the detail and clay bar. Too damn bad I found 4 minor dents on my B pilar where it looks like the detailed put his weight when he was cleaning my car, good luck for me to prove this. So now I need to roll the dice on a PDR guy to not fuck it up worse. It never ends man, right when I think I am done.

Anyways heres the pics:
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0922.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0924.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0925.jpg

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/c...9/IMG_0923.jpg

cabanalane 06-30-2011 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by sincitytsx (Post 13056593)
I measured before I put the Teins on....3 corners were 27.5 inches from ground to bottom of fender lip, and the right rear was 28 inches from ground to bottom of fender lip. I measured 4 tsxs on the lot that were brand new and they were all the same within 1/4 inch.
My car now after drop measures 26.5 inches up front and 27 inches on the left rear and 27.4 on the right rear.

Nice. :thumbsup: I've been waiting for a review like yours. BTW, some pics are not coming through.

1. Are your measurements based on OEM wheels? Do you have a I4 or V6 (17" or 18" wheels).

2. You got 19" wheels(?) with what size tires. 245/35/19? I'm trying to calculate with OEM 225/50/17, and the difference. So relating to #1, were your numbers based on the 19" wheels?

I know I'm spliting hairs with these details, but you know that's how some of us are. :yum:

3. How many miles were on your OEM shocks when you did this?

Thanks,

SinCityTLX 06-30-2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by cabanalane (Post 13060572)
Nice. :thumbsup: I've been waiting for a review like yours. BTW, some pics are not coming through.

1. Are your measurements based on OEM wheels? Do you have a I4 or V6 (17" or 18" wheels).

2. You got 19" wheels(?) with what size tires. 245/35/19? I'm trying to calculate with OEM 225/50/17, and the difference. So relating to #1, were your numbers based on the 19" wheels?

I know I'm spliting hairs with these details, but you know that's how some of us are. :yum:

3. How many miles were on your OEM shocks when you did this?

Thanks,

1. Measurements are all with the same wheels/tires, come on give me some credit.
2.245/40/19
3. I have 18000 miles on my car and I just did it soooooooo. I figure if the rumor is true that this will cause your shocks to blow early, then by the time they blow Koni will have thier replacements out for this car. Hell they already have a part number for the new Yellows, just they aren't ready for sale yet. So I am sure in the 4 or 5 months they will be readily available.

KillerG 06-30-2011 05:51 PM

what about rear camber pieces? planning an alignment soon?

SinCityTLX 06-30-2011 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13060863)
what about rear camber pieces? planning an alignment soon?

I have not found out yet if you can run rear camber arms by themselves or not. I know that they change all the other settings, and there may not be enough adjustment in the OEM arms on the other setting to compensate for the camber correction. It is a never ending battle once you modify a car, I tell ya.
If they are a simple plug and play install and I will be able to get my toe and trail adjustments within spec then Yes I will get them. Nobody can answer this for me though.

KillerG 06-30-2011 10:52 PM

kowloon had arms installed cause he needed em with springs, so did someone else with springs i believe

actually idk, i just know those two guys said the word camber at some point

quick q: most ppl mention camber worries with springs... do coilovers have the same issues?

SinCityTLX 06-30-2011 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by KillerG (Post 13061381)
kowloon had arms installed cause he needed em with springs, so did someone else with springs i believe

actually idk, i just know those two guys said the word camber at some point

quick q: most ppl mention camber worries with springs... do coilovers have the same issues?

Of course they would, they change the suspension so the alignment will change with it. I need to call the people who sell these arms and if you can safely run just the camber arms without needing the other 2 arms as well. If you can, I don't know why they would make the other arms as they would be useless. The only spec that gets out of wack when you lower them is the camber.

KillerG 06-30-2011 11:14 PM

alright. thanks for the info, that was my assumption since i figured they wouldnt do anything dif to the camber, now i know!

my first mod next year will be a drop and im really diggin these h-techs. i was a former believe of the eibach 1/1 but now im feeling the slightly more aggressive setup of the h/r and tein basics

thanks for the pics and help


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