Replacing Breaks after 15 months! 22k miles

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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Replacing Breaks after 15 months! 22k miles

I just bought a Certified pre-owned 09 TSX in March 09 and now I need to replace my rear breaks....Acura dealership is telling me its normal wear and tear and therefore I will be charged $289 to replace the rear breaks. Am I getting ripped off? The car has 22k miles and I bought it at 12.5k Miles. Should I deserve to have em replaced for free?
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 02:58 PM
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IIRC, I had my front rotors turned & new pads at 9k miles. Did the rears myself at...27k miles?

(with the updated pad spreader spring & caliper pin reversal procedure as shown in my gallery)
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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There was a class action lawsuit settlement last year in the US covering Accord and TSX. Honda will pay $150 towards the cost of rear pads replacement, you need to submit a form along with the receipt for the repair. Do a search online to get more details. The new redesigned rear pads has harder material as well as V springs.
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:00 PM
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i just did mine yesterday the pads cost me 60 dollars at the local honda dealer my friend install them for me for 35 dollars. i just to have the accord 08 its this happened too i sent it the paperwork an did not get anything
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Old Jun 7, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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I think the timeframe for the settlement is over with. I'm sorry my friend, it sounds like you're SOL. Sucks that they didn't replace them for you BEFORE you bought the car.

Even on a CPO car, they can argue against paying for your brakes due to individual driving preferences and "wear and tear".

PS: "breaks" is spelled "brakes".
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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I think the timeframe for the settlement is over with. I'm sorry my friend, it sounds like you're SOL.
I'll second that, I found the paperwork this past weekend & it was wayyyy past out of date. I wanna say mid-late 2010?
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Or....you could spend like an extra 50 dollars and just get drilled and slotted rotors and some nice pads....thats what i did when the dealer told me the price to switch and im not regretting it!
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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^I bought drilled rotors and ebc green stuff pads last year, but my dealer replaced both front and rear pads under warranty (up here in Canada, there were no lawsuits), so I will wait till those pads wears out before switching over.
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Old Jun 8, 2011 | 06:47 PM
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my dealer is charging $289 for rear pads and rear rotors. Then I'd get $150 off with the rebate, but still...is it fair to still pay? I bought the car cert preowned March '10 at 12.5k, and now its 22k miles.

Thinking about spending $600 and just getting aftermarket pads and rotors front and rear.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
I'll second that, I found the paperwork this past weekend & it was wayyyy past out of date. I wanna say mid-late 2010?
Not exactly. I remember thinking the same thing reading the forms as well, but the wording is very convoluted (in our favor though ):

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(4) Timely Mail the Claim Form: Claims Forms must be mailed within 90  days of the                                                 Effective Date (see  below) OR for new material rear brake pad replacements mailed                                                 within 90 days of the  repair (if the repair is later than the Effective Date).
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The Effective Date                                             has yet to be determined, but the deadline to mail in a claim will be November 23,                                             2010 or later.
So, in other words the effective date is now past, but as long as you are doing the 'new material' part of the settlement (and not replacing the 'bad' part with the same 'bad' part number) you can still mail in your receipts up to 90 days after the brakes are replaced. I just did mine two months ago, and Acura sent payment pretty quick.

Make sense now?
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
I'll second that, I found the paperwork this past weekend & it was wayyyy past out of date. I wanna say mid-late 2010?
Not exactly. I remember thinking the same thing reading the forms as well, but the wording is very convoluted (in our favor though ):

(4) Timely Mail the Claim Form: Claims Forms must be mailed within 90 days of the Effective Date (see below) OR for new material rear brake pad replacements mailed within 90 days of the repair (if the repair is later than the Effective Date).
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The Effective Date                                             has yet to be determined, but the deadline to mail in a claim will be November 23,                                             2010 or later.
So, in other words the effective date is now past, but as long as you are doing the 'new material' part of the settlement (and not replacing the 'bad' part with the same 'bad' part number) you can still mail in your receipts up to 90 days after the brakes are replaced. I just did mine two months ago, and Acura sent payment pretty quick.

Make sense now?
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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I had my brakes replaced in April and just got my check in the mail a week or so ago.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 05:07 PM
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wait, so is it too late, or no?

i thought we had 3 years
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 11:28 PM
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I don't think it's too late, I actually changed my own brake pads a couple of months ago, and I recently received my rebate check for the pads only.

Special thanks to HeavyDuty, who was gracious enough to offer his help and step-by-step photos way back when when I knew jack about cars. I'll try out that new "thanks" button now.
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Old Jun 9, 2011 | 11:41 PM
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mr. o...was it...hard?

can i do it even though im not a certified acura tech? i am a certified cool guy though
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 12:02 AM
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It wasn't too hard, but I did do a lot of preparation over a long period of time. Started off with looking at Heavy's pics, then over time I tried to learn as much as I could about brakes, including how disc brakes work in general, to downloading PDFs of how to do brakes on a first gen TSX, to watching videos on Youtube (Eric the Car Guy is a good resource). Then finally, I forked over the dough and got the actual instructions for the CU2. Doing all that, I realized that rear disc brakes are pretty much the same on all Hondas.

Of course, I'm sure you know about being street smart vs. book smart. There are some things they don't teach you in documentation. Example: removing the caliper pins. These pins have rubber boots holding them in, and you can't pull them out without stretching the rubber boots. When I first did this, the thought of tearing the boots scared the shit out of me, because I hadn't prepped for the possibility of them ripping and didn't buy spare ones. Luckily, I figured out how to do it and after the first one, it was smooth sailing. Another example: the Honda instructions tell you to remove the bolt that holds the brake line bracket. Mine was frozen and it turned out that I didn't have to remove it after all.

The more you work on your car, the easier it gets. I started with tire rotations and oil changes, and those helped me become more comfortable with tackling the brakes. I don't know how mechanically savvy you are, but if put in the time and do your homework, I think you'll be fine. Sorry for the longwinded post!
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 12:06 AM
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thanks for the reply mr.o... im gonna take your advice head to googles and do some research.

im sick of the brake squeal on this car. its embarrasing to drive with the windows down some days...
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 02:07 AM
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no one has answered m y question. this thread has gone completely side-tracked = (
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ReAmiE
no one has answered m y question. this thread has gone completely side-tracked = (
Read through all the responses, you will find the answer to your question.

Here's a short summary:

Acura/Honda has problems with their rear brake pads wearing out prematurely, anywhere from 12K to 25K miles. A class action lawsuit was launched and settlement approved in court. A one time $150 payment will be made to owner who had their rear brake pads (newly redesigned ones with harder material and V springs). Is that fair, not really. Up here in Canada where there's no lawsuit, my dealer replaced both front and rear pads at 35K miles under warranty. Acura did repay $125 (50%) for my initial rear pad replacement at 20K mile (cost were $250 at the dealer).

If you are not a DIY person, go check around other Acura dealer, I am sure you can find one that will do it for less than $289, the lowest i have heard on other threads were $180, so it's only $30 out of pocket.

You can also spend more (as noted in your earlier post #9) and installed aftermarket brakes and rotor for front and rear.
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Old Jun 10, 2011 | 01:12 PM
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No problem, Mr.O, glad it helped. It's just one of those things, once you get into it, you realize there's less sorcery involved than it looks.

If anyone does do it themselves, make sure to strategically place the hardware so you know what caliper bolt/pin came out of where.

Look in my gallery to see the difference between the pin original locations & the RPC locations.

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