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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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question about eibach's and alignment

i just ordered eibach springs and looking to put them on tommorow, i also have a set of new wheels waiting to go on in a few days, and i know those will require an alignment as will the springs, i wanted to save money by just getting 1 alignment for both the springs and the new wheels, will the springs be good to drive on without an alignment right after for a few days?
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MirozS
i just ordered eibach springs and looking to put them on tommorow, i also have a set of new wheels waiting to go on in a few days, and i know those will require an alignment as will the springs, i wanted to save money by just getting 1 alignment for both the springs and the new wheels, will the springs be good to drive on without an alignment right after for a few days?
No problem, and installing new wheels alone wouldn't mandate an alignment; you're not changing anything that effects it. You could actually have the alignment done before you replace the wheels if that's more convenient for you. Are you replacing the springs yourself? Are you re-using the OE shocks? If so, from what I've read here over the years, they most likely won't last inside the new springs. If you're not, you may want to consider replacing the shocks too.
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Old Apr 12, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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No problem, and installing new wheels alone wouldn't mandate an alignment; you're not changing anything that effects it. You could actually have the alignment done before you replace the wheels if that's more convenient for you. Are you replacing the springs yourself? Are you re-using the OE shocks? If so, from what I've read here over the years, they most likely won't last inside the new springs. If you're not, you may want to consider replacing the shocks too.
yes i am replacing them myself and had planed to keep oe shocks as i havent heard of any issues, especially with the eibach as it is only an 1'' drop, untill now, should i be worried about my shocks going bad now?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 12:54 PM
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You'll want to drive on the springs for a few days to let them settle into place prior to an alignment. If you are changing the overall diameter of the wheels or going with a heavier wheel an alignment may need to be done as your "Toe" may have deviated from stock specs. So basically you'll be fine as I rode on my Eibachs for a few days and did some canyon runs to settle the springs prior to getting an alignment.

As far as stock shocks you should be fine with the Eibach pro kits. anything close to or over 2" will prematurely wear out your shocks as the valving was not set up for the increased cycling that occurs with an aggressive drop. Also keep in mind stock shocks are only good for about 40-50k after which ride quality will greatly decrease putting increased strain on the many bushings found in your suspension. All this sounds bad, but most people don't even realize the change in ride quality since it is gradual over time.

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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 01:33 PM
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So for the eibach pro kit (1.6 front 1.4 rear) drop, will that require a front and rear camber kit for an alignment or would the car be ok without them?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Should be fine, here is a copy of my alignment report by the local Acura dealer after my eibach pro kit install. Everything is close to spec, should be fine.




Originally Posted by Jamdc5
So for the eibach pro kit (1.6 front 1.4 rear) drop, will that require a front and rear camber kit for an alignment or would the car be ok without them?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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I've found the inside of the rear tires wear at 3.0 camber rotate tires alot and try not to get directional tires they cup and feather like mad and then the car sounds like a tractor going down the road I got yokohama yk580 255/40/18 and have been really happy with the wear I,m slammed on megan 32 way street series with all 3 rear arms 1.2-2.0 camber front and rear
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MirozS
yes i am replacing them myself and had planed to keep oe shocks as i havent heard of any issues, especially with the eibach as it is only an 1'' drop, untill now, should i be worried about my shocks going bad now?
Could be the case with Eibach kit, I actually did the reverse (used OE springs w/ Koni shocks), so I can't speak from experience; evidently others will. Again, changing the wheels has nothing to do with your alignment except to perhaps exacerbate an already out of spec set up (that's unlikely to happen though). The car should be aligned occasionally anyway, stock or not. If you drop the car an inch to an inch and a half, it will certainly effect the rear camber (which is not adjustable w/ the OE suspension), and to a lesser degree, the front. The front should shouldn't be a problem, and though the rear will be considerably out of spec, if you can bring the toe back into spec, it shouldn't bother anything (except how it looks, which is why I installed an Ingalls rear camber kit). Out of spec toe is what causes accelerated tire wear. The problem is, the adjustments work together, so when you throw the camber off, you've effected the toe also. The OE rear toe adjustment capability is pretty rudimentary, so you may not be able to bring the toe into spec using the OE control arms (I couldn't on my car for instance). Your at the mercy of the luck of the draw here though; TSX's (1st generation anyway, so I'll assume the newer cars do to) seemed to have left the factory with a fairly wide range of stock alignment specifications (and hence capabilities to align properly).

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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011 TSX
Should be fine, here is a copy of my alignment report by the local Acura dealer after my eibach pro kit install. Everything is close to spec, should be fine.

With those readings the inside of the tires will still wear out, slowly but surely right?
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 05:15 PM
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Maybe, but I'll be rotating them often to help that. Keep in mind a lil neg camber helps out in the turns during aggressive driving. There will always be compromises when you deviate from the stock setup on any car.

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With those readings the inside of the tires will still wear out, slowly but surely right?
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