Opinions on cai or sri
02-18-2012, 03:33 PM
#1
Opinions on cai or sri
Debating whether if i should change my sri to cai cause ita summer time now but my friends told me sri sounds way better and has better high end torque
But like does changing to cai really change the sound cause i mean an intake is an intake ..
But yea gimme your guys opinion on this lmfao
But like does changing to cai really change the sound cause i mean an intake is an intake ..
But yea gimme your guys opinion on this lmfao
02-18-2012, 03:43 PM
#2
Intermediate
Have yet to fit in my INJEN, but i woulda think SRI and CAI would sound the same if you stand outside of the car (since its really the pod filter that's making the sound and not really the distance of the pipe to the intake)
02-18-2012, 04:23 PM
#5
Lol, one of your old topics is even in that search guide
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KillerG (02-18-2012)
02-19-2012, 03:58 AM
#8
SeeYou2Crew #2
fish fish fish fish fish fish fish.....
i probably said this 20x in this forum about my experience with INJEN intake in both SRI and CAI form. SRI is noticeably louder than CAI and i much prefer the CAI sound. much more refine rather than just loud.
and the whole high end power low end torque thing is sorta somewhat true and not true. when i switch over i feel like sri has better throttle response, but harder to get high end power. but cai feels a tad bit better at high end. but that could be all placebo effects since i completely forgot how stock feels like. all i know is it sounds much more aggressive than stock.
i'd switch it just because you never tried it before. besides, it's not too hard. i switch mine without taking the bumper off lol.
i probably said this 20x in this forum about my experience with INJEN intake in both SRI and CAI form. SRI is noticeably louder than CAI and i much prefer the CAI sound. much more refine rather than just loud.
and the whole high end power low end torque thing is sorta somewhat true and not true. when i switch over i feel like sri has better throttle response, but harder to get high end power. but cai feels a tad bit better at high end. but that could be all placebo effects since i completely forgot how stock feels like. all i know is it sounds much more aggressive than stock.
i'd switch it just because you never tried it before. besides, it's not too hard. i switch mine without taking the bumper off lol.
02-21-2012, 01:24 PM
#12
SeeYou2Crew #2
Lol I was in class and got lazy to explain. If you goggle it it's gonna tell you you can switch by taking out the front left wheel and put filter in through the fender linear. What j did is turn the wheel so I get more room and go through the fender linear, and unclip just that side if the bumper if needed
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justnspace (02-21-2012)
02-21-2012, 02:48 PM
#13
Mine went on without taking off bumper as well. I had my Takeda in both configurations. I originally had it in SRI mode but swithed it to CAI mode a couple months in. I leave it in CAI mode so I can easily see how dirty the filter is. Felt no difference in power delivery between the two. I may be the minority here but I would say it was louder in SRI mode. I believe it has to do with the mounting point for the down tube on the SRI transmitting noise and vibration to the cabin. That mounting point is not used in CAI mode. Sounds better in my opinion.
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f1sh (02-21-2012)
02-21-2012, 03:03 PM
#14
It is technically impossible that an aftermarket intake does anything positive (performance wise) on a modern car.
Try drinking a soda (or whatever your beverage of choice is) from a fat straw (the aftermarket intake advertising hype) and you get more soda. Do the same with a thinner straw and you get less soda (aftermarket intake hype about stock intakes.)
However - if you stick a fat straw (aftermarket intake) on a thin straw (the point where the aftermarket intake attaches) you only get the amount of soda that you can suck through the thin straw, no matter how big the fat straw is.
Accordingly, it is impossible that you'll get any noticeable gains from an aftermarket intake - except - you may feel that you do because of the modified sound of that aftermarket intake. Since the CAI (a misnomer because it actually sucks in the same hot air as the stock intake) has a different sound from the SRI, the perceived gains will be different. That's just the way the mind works.
It really wasn't until the onset of emission controls that manufacturers paid much attention to intakes and one actually could get gains from aftermarket stuff because the intakes themselves were more restrictive than the plumbing. Today, manufacturers spend millions to develop the most efficiend intakes and no mom-n-pop shop can improve on that.
So, be honest with yourself and buy an aftermarket intake for the sound and (maybe) for the appearance under the hood, but don't expect any measurable gains.
I know that there will be a ton of readers who will try to convince me that they've seen measurable gains, but I have yet to have someone give me a logical rational for the possibility of any significant gains. Even if it were possible, then the MAF would cancel those out.
Try drinking a soda (or whatever your beverage of choice is) from a fat straw (the aftermarket intake advertising hype) and you get more soda. Do the same with a thinner straw and you get less soda (aftermarket intake hype about stock intakes.)
However - if you stick a fat straw (aftermarket intake) on a thin straw (the point where the aftermarket intake attaches) you only get the amount of soda that you can suck through the thin straw, no matter how big the fat straw is.
Accordingly, it is impossible that you'll get any noticeable gains from an aftermarket intake - except - you may feel that you do because of the modified sound of that aftermarket intake. Since the CAI (a misnomer because it actually sucks in the same hot air as the stock intake) has a different sound from the SRI, the perceived gains will be different. That's just the way the mind works.
It really wasn't until the onset of emission controls that manufacturers paid much attention to intakes and one actually could get gains from aftermarket stuff because the intakes themselves were more restrictive than the plumbing. Today, manufacturers spend millions to develop the most efficiend intakes and no mom-n-pop shop can improve on that.
So, be honest with yourself and buy an aftermarket intake for the sound and (maybe) for the appearance under the hood, but don't expect any measurable gains.
I know that there will be a ton of readers who will try to convince me that they've seen measurable gains, but I have yet to have someone give me a logical rational for the possibility of any significant gains. Even if it were possible, then the MAF would cancel those out.
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02-21-2012, 04:32 PM
#15
Is there a popcorn smiley on this forum?
Nevermind, found it.
Nevermind, found it.
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02-21-2012, 07:31 PM
#16
02-22-2012, 01:41 AM
#17
Intermediate
It is technically impossible that an aftermarket intake does anything positive (performance wise) on a modern car.
Try drinking a soda (or whatever your beverage of choice is) from a fat straw (the aftermarket intake advertising hype) and you get more soda. Do the same with a thinner straw and you get less soda (aftermarket intake hype about stock intakes.)
However - if you stick a fat straw (aftermarket intake) on a thin straw (the point where the aftermarket intake attaches) you only get the amount of soda that you can suck through the thin straw, no matter how big the fat straw is.
Accordingly, it is impossible that you'll get any noticeable gains from an aftermarket intake - except - you may feel that you do because of the modified sound of that aftermarket intake. Since the CAI (a misnomer because it actually sucks in the same hot air as the stock intake) has a different sound from the SRI, the perceived gains will be different. That's just the way the mind works.
It really wasn't until the onset of emission controls that manufacturers paid much attention to intakes and one actually could get gains from aftermarket stuff because the intakes themselves were more restrictive than the plumbing. Today, manufacturers spend millions to develop the most efficiend intakes and no mom-n-pop shop can improve on that.
So, be honest with yourself and buy an aftermarket intake for the sound and (maybe) for the appearance under the hood, but don't expect any measurable gains.
I know that there will be a ton of readers who will try to convince me that they've seen measurable gains, but I have yet to have someone give me a logical rational for the possibility of any significant gains. Even if it were possible, then the MAF would cancel those out.
Try drinking a soda (or whatever your beverage of choice is) from a fat straw (the aftermarket intake advertising hype) and you get more soda. Do the same with a thinner straw and you get less soda (aftermarket intake hype about stock intakes.)
However - if you stick a fat straw (aftermarket intake) on a thin straw (the point where the aftermarket intake attaches) you only get the amount of soda that you can suck through the thin straw, no matter how big the fat straw is.
Accordingly, it is impossible that you'll get any noticeable gains from an aftermarket intake - except - you may feel that you do because of the modified sound of that aftermarket intake. Since the CAI (a misnomer because it actually sucks in the same hot air as the stock intake) has a different sound from the SRI, the perceived gains will be different. That's just the way the mind works.
It really wasn't until the onset of emission controls that manufacturers paid much attention to intakes and one actually could get gains from aftermarket stuff because the intakes themselves were more restrictive than the plumbing. Today, manufacturers spend millions to develop the most efficiend intakes and no mom-n-pop shop can improve on that.
So, be honest with yourself and buy an aftermarket intake for the sound and (maybe) for the appearance under the hood, but don't expect any measurable gains.
I know that there will be a ton of readers who will try to convince me that they've seen measurable gains, but I have yet to have someone give me a logical rational for the possibility of any significant gains. Even if it were possible, then the MAF would cancel those out.
02-22-2012, 04:51 AM
#18
Damn dude, can you get off your anti-modding high horse already? I'm not going to argue with your opinion because its your right to have one, but quit your preaching already. People want to mod their cars here and we don't want to hear you ramble on and on about every possible thing that could go wrong with everything we touch.
Your post was the kid sticking his fingers in his ears and going "lalalalala"
I obviously don't care if and how you mod your car. I just want you to approach each mod with open eyes and consider the actual gains and consequences. How can you think that is a bad thing?
Pass some popcorn please.
02-22-2012, 09:40 AM
#19
ROTAREDOM
What is a CAI?
02-22-2012, 11:08 AM
#20
A brand of popcorn
02-22-2012, 11:27 AM
#21
Intermediate
Right. You'd just like to stick your head in the sand and flush your money down the toilet for the wrong reasons.
Your post was the kid sticking his fingers in his ears and going "lalalalala"
I obviously don't care if and how you mod your car. I just want you to approach each mod with open eyes and consider the actual gains and consequences. How can you think that is a bad thing?
Pass some popcorn please.
Your post was the kid sticking his fingers in his ears and going "lalalalala"
I obviously don't care if and how you mod your car. I just want you to approach each mod with open eyes and consider the actual gains and consequences. How can you think that is a bad thing?
Pass some popcorn please.
02-22-2012, 02:54 PM
#22
You can make power off of an intake...if your pov was correct, then why would tuners need to swap out the stock intake when modding turbo cars for stage 2.
Also, an open filter pushing air through a hollow tube, will flow much more air than a airbox that has a restrictive resonator grabbing air from a tucked away position within the bumper.
It's the lack of tuning that makes it difficult to procure power on modern day cars. You can't slap and intake and expect results, you'll need to tune the a/f, cam angles, etc in order to make power with mods these days.
Also, an open filter pushing air through a hollow tube, will flow much more air than a airbox that has a restrictive resonator grabbing air from a tucked away position within the bumper.
It's the lack of tuning that makes it difficult to procure power on modern day cars. You can't slap and intake and expect results, you'll need to tune the a/f, cam angles, etc in order to make power with mods these days.
02-22-2012, 04:25 PM
#24
^ Every time I see Ed's avatar I get a positive result.
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02-22-2012, 05:54 PM
#26
ROTAREDOM
02-22-2012, 05:56 PM
#27
ROTAREDOM
BTW is anyone gunna ps to say CU2 crew instead of Super Crew?? Juss saying
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02-22-2012, 06:50 PM
#29
Thanks Ed for posting!!!
I guess the answer is CAI... more curves for the win!
I guess the answer is CAI... more curves for the win!
02-22-2012, 07:49 PM
#30
You can make power off of an intake...if your pov was correct, then why would tuners need to swap out the stock intake when modding turbo cars for stage 2.
Also, an open filter pushing air through a hollow tube, will flow much more air than a airbox that has a restrictive resonator grabbing air from a tucked away position within the bumper.
It's the lack of tuning that makes it difficult to procure power on modern day cars. You can't slap and intake and expect results, you'll need to tune the a/f, cam angles, etc in order to make power with mods these days.
Also, an open filter pushing air through a hollow tube, will flow much more air than a airbox that has a restrictive resonator grabbing air from a tucked away position within the bumper.
It's the lack of tuning that makes it difficult to procure power on modern day cars. You can't slap and intake and expect results, you'll need to tune the a/f, cam angles, etc in order to make power with mods these days.
02-22-2012, 09:31 PM
#32
Im not working on this anymore, cause it feels weird to photoshop the breast area, but here
02-22-2012, 10:11 PM
#34
ROTAREDOM
02-23-2012, 12:13 AM
#35
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