twalsh3

Hey Everyone,

The one thing I'm unhappy with about the TSX is the brakes. Does anyone have advice on Hawk vs. EBC brake pads? I'm trying to decide between the Hawk Performance ceramic pads vs. EBC Greenstuff pads and both seem relatively equal and around the same price. I use my car as a daily driver (sometimes very spirited) and will not use for any autocross type racing. Anyone have previous experience with these?

I plan on using the same rotors as well.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Mr. NC

If it helps, they used EBC red stuff pads in the HT TSX V6 project and they posted pretty good reviews about it

24boosted

I'm running Hawk HPS on my 350z and they bite down a bit harder than stock. Didn't want pads that were too aggressive as some will eat the disc quicker.

twalsh3

Ya I saw the red stuff but I think they might be a bit more aggressive than what I'm looking for which leads into what Boosted is saying about aggressive pads eating the disc's quicker . But thanks for the replies.

Face9596

I am about to do all my brakes and rotors on my 2008 acura tl type s and I am going with powerslot cryo rotors with hawk HPS pads I hope that set up works good for me.

PO_TSX19

Would that set up work for the TSX as well?

CAgine

Hawk Performance are perfect imo.

PO_TSX19

Does anyone know a good brake set-up because im planning to upgrade my brakes soon. So is there a set up thats good for spirited as well as winter driving?

ed_423

^picture of your hood, now.

PyroDave

i think BBK is the most accepted as the best brake kit, but they are also the most expensive i believe. try doing a search of the forums. remember that your brakes are only as good as your brake line, especially in the winter, so consider upgrading that as well. i also second the request of pics of your baby =) but in a different thread, preferable as a new topic. in the photo section. cause it looks really hawt =P

PO_TSX19

Sweet, thank you for the info. Yes pictures will up as soon as i figure out how to start new threads, but just look for the username i guess. Pics on the way.

Tannis

Speaking of brake lines... TechnaFit make great stainless lines and they come in a limited selection of colors too. You'll understand the real difference the first time you have to slam on your brakes. I use ebc's more aggressive Yellowstuff pads. I'm a fan. I like the bite. It's certainly reassuring. Good luck to you.

theemike

I used Hawks on my Corvette and loved them.

If you have the time and knowledge, I agree, switch to braided stainless lines. If you cannot bleed brake lines then don't bother.

tsxlife91

haws change brake lines

tsxlife91

musty hustla

I like EBC because they typically produce less dust than stock

benben01

Have had great experience in the past with DBA rotors, SS lines, and Hawk HPS pads.. However, I am not sure if we there is any DBA love for the TSX though...

01ITR

Not true at all. Had EBC's when they first came out about 15 years ago and it was very dusty. Nothing beats stock when it comes to brake pad dust.

I was going to mention this, anytime you change into a aftermarket brake pad.....you'll get better performance at the cost of increased brake dust.

benben01

That's not necessary true. OE pads are the exact opposite in most cases since they were made for comfy and not performance. As a result the compounds tends to be soft and dust more. However, ceramics are becoming more popular with OE applications so the dust theory will hold up. On a side note, HAWK HPS is the best compromise for a dust, comfort, and performance. Very noticeable and cost effective upgrade.

dnd2984

iTrader: (6)

I got hawks and Stoptech slotted rotors on my 01tl the car stop much better than my v6 tsx. Also there is hardly any brake dust generated by the hawks. When I had my car inspected 2 month ago I was told I have 40 %left up front and 60% on back. That after 4.5 years. All around you can't go wrong with hawks.

musty hustla

I used green stuff pads years ago and I have never seen so much brake dust.

ssjoeboe9

Just got the same setup with rotors and brakes! Much improvement over stock!

robpp

iTrader: (2)

i have used hawk HPS with much success on a few vehicles. Almost NO DUST.

I did the Hawk ceramic once but I wasnt happy due to extra pedal force needed.

Puppetmaster

Hawk HPS are good street pads, they will dust more than OEM, and in rare cases, are loud when cold, but they are great for the most part IMO it's a small price to pay for a little more bite.

Don't bother with drilled and/or slotted rotors, they are pretty much for looks and don't really improve stopping power. Stock or any other blanks are fine in most cases.

robpp

iTrader: (2)

if im spending coin on my wheels I want SOMETHING on my rotors. maybe its only a LOOK but I WANT IT

used R1 on my Jeep...dimpled slotted...../
dimple >drilled IMO.

Puppetmaster

Then use that money towards a good BBK... with blanks.

ssjoeboe9

Yo puppet!

Thats not true at all. My stock rotors were warping at like 20,000 miles. With drilled/slotted rotors no matter how hot those brakes get you are not gunna have warping because of the rapid cooling. On top of that, the frictional forces are almost doubled over stock. As a DD maybe you won't ever feel the additional "bite" but not having to deal with warping rotors every 20,000 miles is worth the cost!

Puppetmaster

There are likely other issues to your rotors warping, but your rotors being blanks have little to do with that.

Remember, we are talking daily driving here (and some spirited runs I'm sure), not tracking the car.

http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gd-braki...ed-rotors.html

ssjoeboe9

That was an interesting article you posted, THANKS!

I still have some points that they missed. The rotors are def a heat sink, that is FACT! AND it is true that "If the same amount of heat is generated over a larger surface area it will result in a lower temperature for both surfaces." So people are like oh more mass better heat transfer, lower temperature rotor. So cross drilled have less mass, less effective area, higher temperature? So maybe it gets hotter than your OEM rotor, but remember the same system works in reverse... less mass transfers heat more quickly to its surroundings. So maybe it has a higher thermal temperature but if it can dissipate heat more efficiently that's what is important.
Also, they never mention how the holes actually allow better cooling because there is more airflow through the rotor. I do know that at VERY high temperatures cooling holes are absolutely necessary to keep components cool. In gas turbines this is used all the time. I do not know how effective the cooling holes on rotors are at creating a "heat shield" but I would expect that it works in the same manner on a much smaller scale.
Like you said, no one is trying to race here, but Acura definitely messed up in designing their brake system because warping rotors are not fun.
Thanks again for the article, I really enjoyed reading about it!

ALKO

So glad I saw this post. THANK YOU!!!