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Old 01-15-2014 | 11:42 AM
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I bought a loaded Q50S last month. What an awesome ride. Test drive one with DAS, the steer by wire feature, and it will sell itself.




^^^^^^thats the ticket. instead of waiting for acura to get their shit together....go buy the Q50/

acura is about 5 years behind IMO
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The Q50 is so nice.

I agree, Acura is way behind.
Old 01-15-2014 | 12:54 PM
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It's weird, other acura sites they love it.

What others say is def their opinion, my question though, why is there the need to continually express the negativity? not just cars, or whatever, but people whine so much.

No one cares - you are not special. This applies to everyone.
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Old 01-15-2014 | 01:19 PM
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i answered the thread title and justified why.......

someone asked.........so if negative is the result of the query then deal with it.
Old 01-15-2014 | 01:34 PM
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I don't think it's very credible to say Acura is 5 years behind or they're lost without hope. I drove an Infiniti Q50 last month and, yes, was very impressed but if you go over and read any of the G/Q50 forums you'll see just as many "experts" gnashing their teeth with how that car is the worst thing since the original Yugo. Acuras are not the fastest/sportiest cars out there but they do have a lot going for them - style (my opinion), tech and a great AWD system (SH-AWD).

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Old 01-15-2014 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iCrap
The Q50 is so nice.

I agree, Acura is way behind.
Meanwhile, the Q50 is getting panned by reviewers.

Edit: At least get the better one for the better price made by Mazda

Old 01-15-2014 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed2000
I bought a loaded Q50S last month. What an awesome ride. Test drive one with DAS, the steer by wire feature, and it will sell itself.



That's odd, the Q50's steering is being widely panned critically. It's a good enough looking car, but to say the widely criticized steering system is a selling point loses me.
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I haven't driven the q50 yet, but have spent a lot of time with a g37x and love it.

Some people say they hate the steering and other say they love it, so i don't know what to think about that yet.
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^^ I have read the same.... Motor Trend, Car and Driver etc. all stated they were not fans of it at all.

But, I have not driven it, so for me to say anything would be acting like a parrot, repeating what I have heard.

We all know that people love parrots....
Old 01-15-2014 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iCrap
I haven't driven the q50 yet, but have spent a lot of time with a g37x and love it.

Some people say they hate the steering and other say they love it, so i don't know what to think about that yet.
Nearly every review agrees that driving a Q series is not the same as driving a G. The G series was special, this Q is just not that.
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Originally Posted by optimusaccord
^^ I have read the same.... Motor Trend, Car and Driver etc. all stated they were not fans of it at all.

But, I have not driven it, so for me to say anything would be acting like a parrot, repeating what I have heard.

We all know that people love parrots....

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I don't think it's very credible to say Acura is 5 years behind or they're lost without hope. I drove an Infiniti Q50 last month and, yes, was very impressed but if you go over and read any of the G/Q50 forums you'll see just as many "experts" gnashing their teeth with how that car is the worst thing since the original Yugo. Acuras are not the fastest/sportiest cars out there but they do have a lot going for them - style (my opinion), tech and a great AWD system (SH-AWD).


come on...even a lowly mitsushitsi has intelligent cruise with braking. side avoidance. touch screens. the list goes on. hence my comment about 5 years behind the leaders/

when the 2nd gen was reworked in 2011 all of these things SHOULD have been added to the tsx/
Old 01-15-2014 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed2000
I bought a loaded Q50S last month. What an awesome ride. Test drive one with DAS, the steer by wire feature, and it will sell itself.



Only one camera angle, and the car still looks hot!!!!!!
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Old 01-15-2014 | 04:02 PM
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So, that is just it right, we want manual transmissions, because we want control, but we also want the car to drive itself...

Honda was traditionally machine minimum, man maximum.

They should not change from that I think, unless complete autopilot is happening.
Old 01-15-2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Meanwhile, the Q50 is getting panned by reviewers.

Edit: At least get the better one for the better price made by Mazda

The infotainment screen is the main thing steering me away from the Mazda6. I don't know what they were thinking with such a small screen.
Old 01-15-2014 | 04:11 PM
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it looks alright to me. kinda looks like a blend of different designs. my 09 TSX is paid off and I'll be driving it till it dies (gotta pay em student loans back and grad school). I think I'll be leaving the Acura family with my next car. The brand just seems so boring now and not very innovative. I really dig the new C-class, the Infiniti Q50 and the F1 that they have planned and even the Lexus. heh basically every other brand

+1. When the TSX came out it was actually lauded by some as a leader in forward thinking cabin tech. It also evoked some emotion with its sharp looks. This design looks overly derivative and like something designed by committee to please the lowest common denominator. The tech also isnt there.

Im really failing to see the selling point, and that saddens me as an Acura enthusiast.

tl;dr: looks like dick, no ty.
Where the fuck are my exhausts Acura?????? Im supposed to driving a red carpet athlete that has his balls castrated/tucked between his legs? Fuck that, ill get a real car
Old 01-15-2014 | 04:45 PM
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All I will say is that I am a happy FWD to SH-AWD convert.

The TLX would have to be offered in a SH-AWD V6 option, as well as the 6MT to even peak my interest. I was excited to see that aesthetically speaking it is ok, but honestly, it's not at all that different from a TL, an ILX, or a TSX. It's some type of mutt among all of those models. Overall I'm not very impressed.

I think a lot of people will flock to Infinitis from Acuras, but like other posts stated, I hate the resemblance of them to the new Mazdas.

I agree with other posts that state the rear end looks like a copycat of the new Lexus IS series.
Old 01-15-2014 | 06:18 PM
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That's odd, the Q50's steering is being widely panned critically. It's a good enough looking car, but to say the widely criticized steering system is a selling point loses me.
I bet those magazine testers probably spent one afternoon with the car, I've got 1600 miles on the clock. The steering does take a few days to get used to, it's a very odd feeling at first. Working with the lane departure feature, it will center the car in your lane without any movement through the steering wheel and feels like a gust of wind just moved you over. In fact, driving in a straight line, the steering wheel doesn't move at all. It's like sitting in a parking lot, the only vibration felt through the wheel comes from the stereo if it's cranked.

These features can be turned off but I can see where clipping apexes with them on could fool the car into thinking you are drifting out of your lane. That would be felt as resistance to turn through the steering, you can still turn it, it's just instantly harder to turn. Yeah, I'd say if game over if I didn't realize why it was behaving so.

Plus they all have run flat tires that aren't the best choice for track days.

As for the new TLX, I think there was too much hype over what it was gonna look like, I was expecting a much more aggressive looking car. It looks just like what I bought three years ago if I replaced my headlights with aluminum ice cube trays

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Old 01-15-2014 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Speed2000
I bet those magazine testers probably spent one afternoon with the car, I've got 1600 miles on the clock. The steering does take a few days to get used to, it's a very odd feeling at first. Working with the lane departure feature, it will center the car in your lane without any movement through the steering wheel and feels like a gust of wind just moved you over. In fact, driving in a straight line, the steering wheel doesn't move at all. It's like sitting in a parking lot, the only vibration felt through the wheel comes from the stereo if it's cranked.

These features can be turned off but I can see where clipping apexes with them on could fool the car into thinking you are drifting out of your lane. That would be felt as resistance to turn through the steering, you can still turn it, it's just instantly harder to turn. Yeah, I'd say if game over if I didn't realize why it was behaving so.

Plus they all have run flat tires that aren't the best choice for track days.

As for the new TLX, I think there was too much hype over what it was gonna look like, I was expecting a much more aggressive looking car. It looks just like what I bought three years ago if I replaced my headlights with aluminum ice cube trays
The Infiniti is expensive and unrefined. Not to mention they have a history of being unreliable. The Acura TLX is too conservative. The Lexus IS it too small and kind of weird looking, but by far the bet quality. Not to mention RWD is best in this segment, unless you have Audi Quattro.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Meanwhile, the Q50 is getting panned by reviewers.

Edit: At least get the better one for the better price made by Mazda


hehe

if you worked on cars you'd never get a mazda.
Old 01-15-2014 | 09:21 PM
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I like the look a lot. I like the drivetrain choices so far but where are all the Manual options. And Acura needs to really step it up in the features department. My buddy just dumped his Civic Si in favor of a Kia Optima. I drove it and while I did find it's handling to be underwhelming, the 274 HP Turbo 2.0 is pretty impressive. ON top of that are options upon options that are just not even a thought on an Acura. Heated AND cooled front seats, heated REAR seats! Power folding Mirrors, UVO connectivity, heated Steering wheel. I mean seriously it's a KIA and Acura doesn't have ANY of these options. Also the Kia loaded this way is still less than what I paid for my "tech" TSX. Given my car is a 2010 and it's been 4 years and a lot of tech has come out, but Acura has been passed like it's standing still. I am pretty sure the price point of the TLX will knock it right out of my range so lucky I still love my TSX, which, incidentally, I fell back in love with after driving the Kia. Sure the bells and whistles are all great, but the driving experience is totally different between these two cars. I would say the Kia feels like a Buick a bit too bobbly and soft. But you kinda forget about that with 73 more HP than we have, and 100 more lb/ft of torque and tech toys to keep you occupied. Just my .02.
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Old 01-15-2014 | 10:10 PM
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TLX does look nice. It just comes out too late that I've already bought a Q50. I didn't buy the optional DAS. The standard steering system is the same as in G37, nothing to complain.

If my Q50 is totaled, I will definitely take a look at TLX
Old 01-15-2014 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Nearly every review agrees that driving a Q series is not the same as driving a G. The G series was special, this Q is just not that.
That's because Infiniti made a mistake by giving all auto journalists the version with DAS.
Old 01-16-2014 | 04:37 AM
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Thoughts on this??
http://jalopnik.com/acura-is-slowly-...ide-1501315445
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He joins the trend of the Acura is doomed crowd. Acura, to me anyways, represented (and still does) the best "value luxury brand". Their top current offering - RLX Sport Hybrid - tops out in the mid $60's where as that gets you the middle of the pack model in the other lux brands. He really lost me when he made the ridiculous claim that Integras did battle with BMWs and Mercedes of their day. Aside from the original NSX, Acuras were never really the absolute fastest or most expensive cars in their class. They shared platforms with Hondas and inherited their stellar reliability (with an exception or two). They have lower average maintenance costs than most lux brands and better predicted reliability. I know I'm certainly in the minority but I like their current style, as well.

Does Acura have some issues? Certainly. The ILX seems about 80% baked to me. The RDX could use a shot of fun to liven it up. If I could coin a phrase in relation to this I'd say: "people that actually buy cars have different tastes than people who write about them".
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Old 01-16-2014 | 09:02 AM
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People love to bitch about anything.
Old 01-16-2014 | 09:40 AM
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My favorite part about any car review from users on a car forum, is that they critique the car's handling and speed and performance on a course......when 90% of the users that will buy the car will NOT ever see the track, their biggest steering test will be an on-ramp or maybe some roads in the woods at 25mph.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 11:30 AM
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Well, I bought my gen 1 because of its look and honda reliability.

I bought my gen 2 because of the discount. I ended up paying less for my gen 2 than my gen 1. I have never looked at Acura as being a direct competitor to Lexus, Merc, BMW or Audi. It's kind of a 1/2 step instead of a full step above honda.

I think the TLX will sell well if Acura prices it right. Not everyone in the market is looking for a hey-look-at-me product. The Camry is as vanilla as it gets and yet, it's the best selling car in the America.

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just gotta tweak it a lil
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^^ well if by tweak you mean slam it to the ground so its undrivable then ok.
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Old 01-16-2014 | 01:30 PM
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^^ well if by tweak you mean slam it to the ground so its undrivable then ok.
but then it will appeal to minorities
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I think the pictures need moar low....
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Im probably going to get one, but I will have all the chrome "cadillac" trim painted on the rear and front bumpers, as well as maybe the window trim done in flat black with body color grill, and bumper pieces. The stock tires and wheels look to be perfect sized, however if I know Acura, they will come with 17s and have suspension that sits 2 inches higher than what they have displayed.
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Originally Posted by kurtatx
Nearly every review agrees that driving a Q series is not the same as driving a G. The G series was special, this Q is just not that.
On that, I can agree. The Q50 I tested last year was just awful. The steering simply felt video-gamey and DAS kept making minute corrections on bumpy roads, causing a constant back and forth swaying sensation. Very disconcerting. Just make sure I wasn't going crazy, I tested a G37 shortly thereafter and it is simply a much more satisfying drive.

Read my full review here.
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I'm not feeling the TLX. It's not ugly, but it's not drop dead gorgeous either. It looks like a big ILX to me. What's new and innovative about the TLX? It is still basically a re-bodied Accord - and that just won't cut it for me anymore. I bet the tech hasn't really changed much either - why is Acura still making people record voice tags to voice dial from phone contacts in 2014? My 2009 base and then 2011 TSX tech were perfect cars for my life situation at the time, and I was proud to have what I thought was my first luxury cars. But after riding in BMWs, Audis, & Range Rovers in the ensuing years, I feel like Acura is more Honda plus than true luxury.

I don't think I can return to the brand again after having driven Acuras for six years. Don't get me wrong, I still think they are good cars. But I want...more. It's time to move on to something completely different when my lease ends in April. Having shopped around, I'll be going into an Audi Q5.
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I am still trying to figure out how Hyundai was able to show the new Genesis interior and all yet still no interior shots of the TLX and it is supposed to be only 6 months out. Not only that. Why no navigation in the ILX 2.4 or the Accord Sport? Honda just doesn't get it anymore. And yes the TLX is a rebadged Accord I get it. The same can be said of the ES350 to the Camry but Toyota does have separate cars designed from the ground up to be a Lexus.
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On that, I can agree. The Q50 I tested last year was just awful. The steering simply felt video-gamey and DAS kept making minute corrections on bumpy roads, causing a constant back and forth swaying sensation. Very disconcerting. Just make sure I wasn't going crazy, I tested a G37 shortly thereafter and it is simply a much more satisfying drive.

Read my full review here.
Q50 without that optional DAS should be as satisfying.
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The engine option makes no sense. A 2.4L I-4 and a 3.5L V6...One is optional with AWD and the other FWD.

Acura still going with the FWD/2.4inline combination for the TLX..
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The engine option makes no sense. A 2.4L I-4 and a 3.5L V6...One is optional with AWD and the other FWD.

Acura still going with the FWD/2.4inline combination for the TLX..
Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. Honda's 4 cylinder engines have always been some of the best (though torque shy), and they basically just had to wait for everyone else to catch up. The smaller engines are rapidly becoming the new norm in the higher end. BMW, Mercedes, and Audi (who always did offer a stellar in line 4) have all gone to 4 bangers in not only their entry level offerings, but their step up cars too (available in the 5 series, the A-6, E class diesel is a 4, and I'll bet you the new C class Benz too).
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