Why did you choose the TSX over the TL? And if not..
#81
Intermediate
To the original question - why TSX over TL
- Didn't feel the need for V6. I wanted zippy, not raw power acceleration. TSX's 4-banger was enough for me, and I wanted to save $ on better mileage.
- 2010 TL too big, versus TSX just right size
- Dash styling of TSX far better than TL
That's it really, price wasn't too big of a deal, and I didn't mind the beak, I rather liked its in-your-face, so-what attitude.
Fundamentally, I didn't need V6 power. I just needed a well-appointed, semi-luxurious, zippy 4-banger everyday commute car that was comfortable to sit in, easy to park, fun to toss around corners, and never worry about getting up on freeway on-ramps, or passing the occasional slow-poke. Those are classic Honda traits that are happily still in the 4-cyl TSX.
If I had been in the market for that kind of car - a larger luxury car with V6 power - I would have cross-shopped TL V6 versus Infinity G, Audi A4, Lexus IS350, 3-series - the usual suspects. I didn't think 4-cyl TSX was really comparable to those, given its price / motor combination.
Ben
- Didn't feel the need for V6. I wanted zippy, not raw power acceleration. TSX's 4-banger was enough for me, and I wanted to save $ on better mileage.
- 2010 TL too big, versus TSX just right size
- Dash styling of TSX far better than TL
That's it really, price wasn't too big of a deal, and I didn't mind the beak, I rather liked its in-your-face, so-what attitude.
Fundamentally, I didn't need V6 power. I just needed a well-appointed, semi-luxurious, zippy 4-banger everyday commute car that was comfortable to sit in, easy to park, fun to toss around corners, and never worry about getting up on freeway on-ramps, or passing the occasional slow-poke. Those are classic Honda traits that are happily still in the 4-cyl TSX.
If I had been in the market for that kind of car - a larger luxury car with V6 power - I would have cross-shopped TL V6 versus Infinity G, Audi A4, Lexus IS350, 3-series - the usual suspects. I didn't think 4-cyl TSX was really comparable to those, given its price / motor combination.
Ben
#82
Moderator
i strongly disagree with your interior statement... the tsx interior looks too much like an accord interior..
my brother has an accord, when i got into the tsx, i realized it looked similar.
---------TL
---------TSX
---------Accord
my brother has an accord, when i got into the tsx, i realized it looked similar.
---------TL
---------TSX
---------Accord
Last edited by potmilkz; 05-15-2012 at 12:42 PM.
#86
Drifting
I don't fully agree- seems like the TSX is a blend of TL and Accord elements. I think the TL is closer to Accord in dash design than the TSX actually. Look at the placement of Nav Screen, Hazard Flasher button, center vents. Even the shifter looks the same.
#87
We have a 2010 TL Tech and a 2012 TSX 4 Cylinder Tech. Here are a few points about both cars.
We spent about 12K more on the TL, so if price is an issue the TL could be a deal breaker. With that being said, I feel like the price difference is justified by the features and build quality.
The keyless access is a terrific feature that I miss in the TSX. The stereo in the TSX is great, but the stereo in the TL is much better. It has richer base and less annoying treble.
Our TL obviously has a more powerful engine and has much better brakes. The leather seems better in the TL too. The build quality seems better in the TL also, although both are great. You can close the doors in the TL with absolutely no effort and get a satisfying solid thud.
There are more seat adjustments in the TL, which is not that big of a deal.
I actually like the interior styling of the TL better, although both are very nice. I am not a big fan of the ridge that spans the dash in the TSX. In the TL, I am not a huge fan of the 3D instrument panel. It is important to note that if you have ever been in the not tech versions of either car, the interior looks much cheaper. We first looked at a non-tech TL that had a pinstripe with Acura written in it on the outside and on the inside there was fake plastic wood. It was terrible. I bring this up b/c some folks have mentioned that they had loaners they didn't like. I imagine they could have been non-tech TLs.
The TL has a much cushier, yet still sporty, ride. The TSX has much stiffer suspension.
I would say that I like the exterior of the TL better. I am one of the fans of the non-traditional styling. We have the sport grille and midnight chrome rims I feel tie everything together nicely. If more traditional is your taste, then the TSX is for you.
The trunk in the TSX is way better than the TL. it is easier to access and has a much better angle if you are folding the seats down. The seats in the TL don't fold down at all, although there is a center pass through. Because of the angle of the trunk, the pass through is almost useless.
The TSX is not much smaller than the TL by the numbers. It feels much smaller when you drive it, however. I think it might be because you have better peripheral vision out of the TSX than you do with the TL.
Both cars are great. You can't go wrong with either one!!!
We spent about 12K more on the TL, so if price is an issue the TL could be a deal breaker. With that being said, I feel like the price difference is justified by the features and build quality.
The keyless access is a terrific feature that I miss in the TSX. The stereo in the TSX is great, but the stereo in the TL is much better. It has richer base and less annoying treble.
Our TL obviously has a more powerful engine and has much better brakes. The leather seems better in the TL too. The build quality seems better in the TL also, although both are great. You can close the doors in the TL with absolutely no effort and get a satisfying solid thud.
There are more seat adjustments in the TL, which is not that big of a deal.
I actually like the interior styling of the TL better, although both are very nice. I am not a big fan of the ridge that spans the dash in the TSX. In the TL, I am not a huge fan of the 3D instrument panel. It is important to note that if you have ever been in the not tech versions of either car, the interior looks much cheaper. We first looked at a non-tech TL that had a pinstripe with Acura written in it on the outside and on the inside there was fake plastic wood. It was terrible. I bring this up b/c some folks have mentioned that they had loaners they didn't like. I imagine they could have been non-tech TLs.
The TL has a much cushier, yet still sporty, ride. The TSX has much stiffer suspension.
I would say that I like the exterior of the TL better. I am one of the fans of the non-traditional styling. We have the sport grille and midnight chrome rims I feel tie everything together nicely. If more traditional is your taste, then the TSX is for you.
The trunk in the TSX is way better than the TL. it is easier to access and has a much better angle if you are folding the seats down. The seats in the TL don't fold down at all, although there is a center pass through. Because of the angle of the trunk, the pass through is almost useless.
The TSX is not much smaller than the TL by the numbers. It feels much smaller when you drive it, however. I think it might be because you have better peripheral vision out of the TSX than you do with the TL.
Both cars are great. You can't go wrong with either one!!!
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I think the thread has gotten back on track nicely, so no need to lock?
#93
Funny. I bought my 2010 TSX without test driving a TL and today got a TL as a rental from the dealer I as I was thinking about trading in the TSX. Honestly I wasn't that impressed. This was a base 2012 TL and the size seemed very similar to my TSX and the interior didn't! Seem plush at all. The car felt heavy but the pick-up wasn't great and the gas mileage wasn't too good. My last car was a Volvo S60 2.5T AWD and that had better acceleration than both cars. In the end I prefer the size, interior, handling, and zippiness of the TSX. Nothing to do with price. To each their own though, like anything everyone has. Different tastes!
#94
If they offered a TL sport wagon (with V6 and AWD) I would have jumped on one in an instant. I was coming from a much bigger car (E63 AMG Mercedes) and so I kind of wanted to stay in the same size segment. That said, the TSX wagon is perfectly fine. It doesn't feel too small and is frugal and practical and inconspicuous.
#95
I used to be a huge TL fan until they released the latest gen. I personally can't get used to the new design.. front, rear.. no matter which way I look at it, I don't like it.
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Although the TL is indeed a lot roomier and more luxorious, I ended up with the TSX w/ Tech Pkg. Mostly because I could not find the TL SH-AWD in my price range, so I guess you could say price plays a big factor come decision time.
#98
Burning Brakes
If they offered a TL sport wagon (with V6 and AWD) I would have jumped on one in an instant. I was coming from a much bigger car (E63 AMG Mercedes) and so I kind of wanted to stay in the same size segment. That said, the TSX wagon is perfectly fine. It doesn't feel too small and is frugal and practical and inconspicuous.
And maybe the ILX will re-introduce a 3 door / 5 door sportback like the original Integra.
Hmm... ain't gonna happen, right?
#99
Racer
If I could afford a tl sh-awd manual I would have gotten it but as I could not and as the tsx looks younger(im 20), i got the second sportiest acura you can buy new today. The tsx v6 vbp no nav ordered from sayama with my name on it I tried to find a tl-s manual as that was my dream car for the longest but I couldnt find one in my area at all.
#100
TL
pros: Bigger, more luxurious, seats feel better, V6 engine, chassis feel more solid.
Cons: it's ugly, it's heavy, not as responsive steering as the TSX, MPG, and the price.
TSX
pros: lighter, better handling, decent MPG, cheaper.
cons: not as luxurious, backseats are sort of small, and slower.
pros: Bigger, more luxurious, seats feel better, V6 engine, chassis feel more solid.
Cons: it's ugly, it's heavy, not as responsive steering as the TSX, MPG, and the price.
TSX
pros: lighter, better handling, decent MPG, cheaper.
cons: not as luxurious, backseats are sort of small, and slower.
#101
Advanced
Reasons we chose our 2010 TSX over the TL:
-Price: We got our base for $28,000, probably would have had to spend 5k more for the TL
-Fuel economy: for us the k24 has plent of power and getting around a 30mpg average is nice. Although my wife has commented on how much more power her Loaner TLs have vs. the TSX.
-Looks: I much prefered the 2010 TSX over the TL, now the refresh to the TL has made it look alot better in my opinion.
-Ease of maintenance: This was in the back of my mind if we keep the vehicle for a long time, less spark plugs, chain driven vs. belt, longer oil change intervals per MM (I use synthetic so I'm going to try to leave the oil in until 15%), probably a longer tranmission life?
A huge contributing factor was we bought the car for my wife to drive since I have a work truck. Had I been selecting a car for my dd the TL with SH-awd would have fit the bill quite nicely with the 6-spd.
-Price: We got our base for $28,000, probably would have had to spend 5k more for the TL
-Fuel economy: for us the k24 has plent of power and getting around a 30mpg average is nice. Although my wife has commented on how much more power her Loaner TLs have vs. the TSX.
-Looks: I much prefered the 2010 TSX over the TL, now the refresh to the TL has made it look alot better in my opinion.
-Ease of maintenance: This was in the back of my mind if we keep the vehicle for a long time, less spark plugs, chain driven vs. belt, longer oil change intervals per MM (I use synthetic so I'm going to try to leave the oil in until 15%), probably a longer tranmission life?
A huge contributing factor was we bought the car for my wife to drive since I have a work truck. Had I been selecting a car for my dd the TL with SH-awd would have fit the bill quite nicely with the 6-spd.
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