Tein SA Opionions
Tein SA Opionions
I believe this is the route I want to go with things, but my questions to the community are how is the life on the shock and struts? Also, those with it how do you enjoy the ride quality and what is the comparison to stock (I will be going with a 245ish tirre as well)?
Also, for clarification purposes, the front camber adjustment is just an adjustable ball joint in the upper control arm? I know the rear consists of three adjustment links as well.
I have searched and the data is everywhere, would just like some condensed data for myself, however. Thank everyone in advance.
Also, for clarification purposes, the front camber adjustment is just an adjustable ball joint in the upper control arm? I know the rear consists of three adjustment links as well.
I have searched and the data is everywhere, would just like some condensed data for myself, however. Thank everyone in advance.
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Condensed data is: pretty good.
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Condensed data is: pretty good.
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The almighty google-gnome knows though:
https://www.google.com/search?q=tein...ssion-2009-143
They ride better than the disappointing stock suspension for sure. Better comfort, better control.
Mine (on my 1g) seem to be starting to wear out at about 55-60k miles. They just don't seem as smooth as before. The knobs still work...but I think the dampers are wearing. The set on the wagon is still pretty new. I am using 245/40/18 Michelin PSS on the wagon. 225/45/17 MPSS on the sedan.
I am not using camber kits on either. BUT...
Front: Either sliding ball joints pressed into factory arms....assuming you can get the factory ones out without bending the arm. Or...maybe they make UCA's with bolt-in sliding joints similar to those for 1G's. Front camber doesn't change very much. So...idk...leave it alone? I would. Front camber kits may cause more issues than they solve.
Rear: For a 2G, the most simple camber kit is one with the lower links. If you buy the sliding ball joints, the camber adjustment is much more difficult, and the install is exponentially more difficult. The disadvantage and advantage to the adjustable lower links is that you are directly moving the BOTTOM of the wheel. Depending on your wheel fitment and desired look, this is an advantage or disadvantage.
Mine (on my 1g) seem to be starting to wear out at about 55-60k miles. They just don't seem as smooth as before. The knobs still work...but I think the dampers are wearing. The set on the wagon is still pretty new. I am using 245/40/18 Michelin PSS on the wagon. 225/45/17 MPSS on the sedan.
I am not using camber kits on either. BUT...
Front: Either sliding ball joints pressed into factory arms....assuming you can get the factory ones out without bending the arm. Or...maybe they make UCA's with bolt-in sliding joints similar to those for 1G's. Front camber doesn't change very much. So...idk...leave it alone? I would. Front camber kits may cause more issues than they solve.
Rear: For a 2G, the most simple camber kit is one with the lower links. If you buy the sliding ball joints, the camber adjustment is much more difficult, and the install is exponentially more difficult. The disadvantage and advantage to the adjustable lower links is that you are directly moving the BOTTOM of the wheel. Depending on your wheel fitment and desired look, this is an advantage or disadvantage.
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Best bet is to read over as many onions as you can to see if the general feel seems to jive with what you're looking for. FWIW, Roland's opium is pretty much exactly what I'm looking for and he's more or less sold me on the Teins.
Best of luck!
So far, I've installed these on:
My 1G: I'm happy with em. People who ride in the car can't tell its lowered by the way it rides. Been to NYC with them. Anyone that's driven in NYC knows why this is significant.
My 2G wagon: happy with em. My in-laws flew in to see us a while ago. They borrowed the car for 2 weeks whilst vacationing...and drove it through a few states. They commented on how well it rides and drives. So they quite literally pass the mother in law test.
Friend's 4G TL: He loved them.
Same friend's 3G TLS: Pending...going to install them this weekend. But the fact that he bought the same system again would kinda speak for it.
Friend's EP3: These are SB...not SA. But similar. He's been on them for a long time. I just met up with him in NYC a couple weeks ago (he drove...I flew). We drove from somewhere in the Bronx to Houston st. in the city (Katz's) at like 3AM. Open roads since it was late, so we weren't exactly crawling over bumps. The car took it like a champ...even with 3 people in it.
My 1G: I'm happy with em. People who ride in the car can't tell its lowered by the way it rides. Been to NYC with them. Anyone that's driven in NYC knows why this is significant.
My 2G wagon: happy with em. My in-laws flew in to see us a while ago. They borrowed the car for 2 weeks whilst vacationing...and drove it through a few states. They commented on how well it rides and drives. So they quite literally pass the mother in law test.
Friend's 4G TL: He loved them.
Same friend's 3G TLS: Pending...going to install them this weekend. But the fact that he bought the same system again would kinda speak for it.
Friend's EP3: These are SB...not SA. But similar. He's been on them for a long time. I just met up with him in NYC a couple weeks ago (he drove...I flew). We drove from somewhere in the Bronx to Houston st. in the city (Katz's) at like 3AM. Open roads since it was late, so we weren't exactly crawling over bumps. The car took it like a champ...even with 3 people in it.
Thanks for the information everyone. Yea, I know the pedigree of Tein as I had the SS on my old Si and run Tein RA on my track car and they have always been good to me. Good to know they are still great on this chassis and still up to snuff. You guys have the best opium onions for sure.
If you wanted to replace your stock suspension with a Tein package (basis, advance etc,)would the Tein package be all you need?
I don't know jack about suspensions, so would you need struts along with the Tein package? Like I said, I honeslty have no idea about suspensions and what components they require.
I'm looking for a slight drop while maintaining comfort.
I don't know jack about suspensions, so would you need struts along with the Tein package? Like I said, I honeslty have no idea about suspensions and what components they require.
I'm looking for a slight drop while maintaining comfort.
If you wanted to replace your stock suspension with a Tein package (basis, advance etc,)would the Tein package be all you need?
I don't know jack about suspensions, so would you need struts along with the Tein package? Like I said, I honeslty have no idea about suspensions and what components they require.
I'm looking for a slight drop while maintaining comfort.
I don't know jack about suspensions, so would you need struts along with the Tein package? Like I said, I honeslty have no idea about suspensions and what components they require.
I'm looking for a slight drop while maintaining comfort.
Teins provide about a minimum of 1" drop (that's as high as they'll go) on a sedan...and about 1.4" min drop on a big booty wagon. On a car like the 2G TSX, which is already low, a 1" drop is semi-significant....but not ridiculously low.
The Tein SA and SB come as shocks matched with springs. There is also a height adjuster and boots, bumpstops, etc etc etc. The only thing you'll need to remove from your stock setup is the tophats. The tophat is what allows the shock to fasten to the shock tower on the car's body. This requires a spring compressor to do it safely. You can also opt to order them from a company like Heel Toe that will sell you new top hats, pre-assembled to the Teins.
Teins provide about a minimum of 1" drop (that's as high as they'll go) on a sedan...and about 1.4" min drop on a big booty wagon. On a car like the 2G TSX, which is already low, a 1" drop is semi-significant....but not ridiculously low.
Teins provide about a minimum of 1" drop (that's as high as they'll go) on a sedan...and about 1.4" min drop on a big booty wagon. On a car like the 2G TSX, which is already low, a 1" drop is semi-significant....but not ridiculously low.
Your shocks are probably the most worn out part. But yes...new shocks/springs will refresh the feel of the car. Tophats, however, should never really wear out. Maybe their bushings will wear after like 300-400K of normal use. But....the plates themselves never wear unless they're rusted to shit.
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