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Old 02-13-2009 | 12:35 PM
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Piaa fogs are in. I think...

I can't say that I am impressed at the difference. The first shot is of the car with stock fogs. The second shot is with one stock fog and one Piaa fog. There is a SLIGHT difference but not enough to justify $100 IMO. Can you tell which is which?



Old 02-13-2009 | 12:48 PM
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I can definitely tell the right one is the PIAA bulb. I agree though, don't know if I would justify spending $100 on those bulbs for that. But pictures are hard to show true lighting, it might look better in person.
Old 02-13-2009 | 12:50 PM
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I can definitely tell the right one is the PIAA bulb. I agree though, don't know if I would justify spending $100 on those bulbs for that. But pictures are hard to show true lighting, it might look better in person.
I wish I could tell you it does look better in person but it doesn't look any better then what you see in the photo. Unfortunately what you see is what you get.
Old 02-13-2009 | 12:55 PM
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I wonder how these ones would look:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya...Q5fAccessories
Old 02-13-2009 | 12:57 PM
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^ they would look the same but a bit whiter.

what are you trying to achieve?
more lumen output? a different color temperature?
Old 02-13-2009 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DerwoodEE
I wonder how these ones would look:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nokya...Q5fAccessories
They may work better but Victoria is pretty small so finding them here without having to order them might be a lesson in frustration.
Old 02-13-2009 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
^ they would look the same but a bit whiter.

what are you trying to achieve?
more lumen output? a different color temperature?
I'm trying to make them so they are more the same color as the headlights. I know I probably won't find anything that will be exact but the Piaa offers very little difference IMO.
Old 02-13-2009 | 01:21 PM
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Well, whatever y'all do, *please* don't put a higher wattage bulb that what the car came with. You will melt wiring, housings, etc. ACK!

Then again, I'm obviously not talking to Darren, as his screen name suggests, he's an EE...am I right?
Old 02-13-2009 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
^ they would look the same but a bit whiter.

what are you trying to achieve?
more lumen output? a different color temperature?
So I guess I'm looking for a different color temperature. One that more closely matches the HIDs. Any suggestions?
Old 02-13-2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
Well, whatever y'all do, *please* don't put a higher wattage bulb that what the car came with. You will melt wiring, housings, etc. ACK!

Then again, I'm obviously not talking to Darren, as his screen name suggests, he's an EE...am I right?
I'm not an EE but I do understand a little bit about wattage, I think. So no, I would never go with higher wattage.
Old 02-13-2009 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by HeavyDuty
Then again, I'm obviously not talking to Darren, as his screen name suggests, he's an EE...am I right?
Wow, most people don't pick up on the meaning of it. Yes, I'm an electrical engineer.

Usually the wiring used isn't near it's capacity for what it can carry, this to allow for potential surges, etc. As long as you arn't jumping from 55W to like 110W without considering the amount of energy the wires used are capable of handling, you'll be OK. There's tables that you can cross reference the amount of circuit watts to the appropriate wire gauge for length in feet. So as long as the stock wires exceed the required gauge, you'll be fine. However you'll also want to check the fuse to be sure it'll allow for the increased current as well.

If you increase the bulb wattage from 55W to 80W, you'll want to verify a minimum of 14AWG wire is used.

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well stock is 4300k
you bought 4000k right?

more matching stock would be a 4300k bulb.
but matching HIDs and halogens doesn't always come out perfect.

the color from the pictures look pretty similar to me.
but it's hard to tell without seeing the light cast onto something.
Old 02-13-2009 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MMsTSX
well stock is 4300k
you bought 4000k right?

more matching stock would be a 4300k bulb.
but matching HIDs and halogens doesn't always come out perfect.

the color from the pictures look pretty similar to me.
but it's hard to tell without seeing the light cast onto something.
Yes the Piaa's were 4000K. They make a Wizard series which is 5000K. The Nokya that Darren pointed out are 5000K which I think might be a better option. I'm not sure if the difference would have been more noticeable at night but that's why I backed into my garage, to try and mimic night time. Since the fog lights are pretty useless anyways, I want something that will look close to the color of the HIDs when the fogs are on.

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