Let's turn this on its head
#41
Originally Posted by darmok
Why not? Is there anything wrong with coming right out and saying "instead of offering a traditional luxury experience, we're going to focus on delivering the best vehicle technology and a simplified buying experience at a price which undercuts the established luxury makes"?
The goal is to make money, right? Finding a market niche that you can dominate is a lot easier than trying to attack your competitors on their own turf.
The goal is to make money, right? Finding a market niche that you can dominate is a lot easier than trying to attack your competitors on their own turf.
#43
Originally Posted by dom
Then stop saying your going for Tier 1 and targeting BMW, MB etc... which is what they have done.
#44
Originally Posted by dom
Then stop saying your going for Tier 1 and targeting BMW, MB etc... which is what they have done.
What an enthusiast hears versus what a business / PR person hears is often quite different. We might be reading something into these statements that isn't really intended.
#45
What was Lexus thinking? They were thinking of ways on how to improve their 1st gen IS300. Keep in mind the old IS300 has already established itself as a good performance car. The 2nd generation improves upon it in almost every single way, upping the luxury and overall quality. It also helps that that the car looks miles better inside and out compared tothe 1st gen.
Plus, it's a Lexus. The brand itself will sell. Not to mention, the IS is built on a RWD platform and offer six-cylinder engines. Sure it's a tiny car but who cares? I've driven the IS many times, and I can feel the luxury and quality put into the car.
Acura? None of those. They really didn't do much with the new TSX. Performance isn't much better...the car doesn't look much different. And IMO, i think their interior is a step back from the 1st gen. The car isn't a huge improvement. Pretty much the same ol'. A very bad move on Acura's part at a time when Infiniti, BMW, and Lexus are improving upon their cars by offering MORE in luxury, performance and design, which Acura is still trying to figure out what to provide more of what...
Plus, it's a Lexus. The brand itself will sell. Not to mention, the IS is built on a RWD platform and offer six-cylinder engines. Sure it's a tiny car but who cares? I've driven the IS many times, and I can feel the luxury and quality put into the car.
Acura? None of those. They really didn't do much with the new TSX. Performance isn't much better...the car doesn't look much different. And IMO, i think their interior is a step back from the 1st gen. The car isn't a huge improvement. Pretty much the same ol'. A very bad move on Acura's part at a time when Infiniti, BMW, and Lexus are improving upon their cars by offering MORE in luxury, performance and design, which Acura is still trying to figure out what to provide more of what...
#46
Originally Posted by TypeRS
What was Lexus thinking? They were thinking of ways on how to improve their 1st gen IS300. Keep in mind the old IS300 has already established itself as a good performance car. The 2nd generation improves upon it in almost every single way, upping the luxury and overall quality. It also helps that that the car looks miles better inside and out compared tothe 1st gen.
Plus, it's a Lexus. The brand itself will sell. Not to mention, the IS is built on a RWD platform and offer six-cylinder engines. Sure it's a tiny car but who cares? I've driven the IS many times, and I can feel the luxury and quality put into the car.
Acura? None of those.
Plus, it's a Lexus. The brand itself will sell. Not to mention, the IS is built on a RWD platform and offer six-cylinder engines. Sure it's a tiny car but who cares? I've driven the IS many times, and I can feel the luxury and quality put into the car.
Acura? None of those.
#47
Originally Posted by Colin
Um, the IS300 had 215 hp, the IS250 has 204. Even counting the change in EPA rating scales, thats still a drop in HP. Torque dropped even more, 218 lb. ft @ 3,800 rpm. to 185 @ 4800. Heck curb weight even went up from 218 lb.-ft. of peak torque at 3,800 rpm. to 3435. I'd say Acura is doing exactly the same thing. Hopefully with similar sales results.
#49
Originally Posted by Colin
True, but car for car, the original statement is invalid. Still, I'd gladly give up all the IS350 sales if I could have and equal number of IS250 sales with the TSX.
#50
Originally Posted by TypeRS
Doesn't matter.
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