Frozen Brake Pedal
#1
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Frozen Brake Pedal
This morning it was around 5 degrees, first time I drove the car in this kind of temperature. The brake pedal was frozen for at least 10 minutes, it wasn't completely frozen but it took a lot for me to stop the car. I was wondering if this is normal, I don't think so and isn't this a problem that my extended warranty can cover? I'm clueless. I asked my dad and he said that this happened often with this car... It's dangerous, I had to brake a lot quicker than usual.
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Mercedes>BMW (12-08-2013)
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TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
yeah downshifting while braking helps quite a bit.
#4
M>BMW: I'm in the Great Lakes area too, but haven't had that problem. My car is usually garaged, but I do have to park outside overnight once in a while. In those cases, I'm usually thinking about our stellar oem battery as I start to turn the key lol. I'd be contacting your service guy Monday morning.. braking faster in a winter climate??
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first, are we talking about the brake pedal or stopping the car??????
the brake pedal is mechanical and cannot be frozen.
brake fluid has a freezing point of -40 degrees.
so, its not your brake pedal or the brake fluid...
if we are talking about stopping the car, DUH!!!! you should leave ample time to stop, even braking early in cold and rainy weather.
the cold effects your tires, which has a greater emphasis on stopping your car than your brakes do.
like anything, fluid and rubber needs to be warm to be working in its optimum capacity.
give extra braking time when the car especially tires are cold
the brake pedal is mechanical and cannot be frozen.
brake fluid has a freezing point of -40 degrees.
so, its not your brake pedal or the brake fluid...
if we are talking about stopping the car, DUH!!!! you should leave ample time to stop, even braking early in cold and rainy weather.
the cold effects your tires, which has a greater emphasis on stopping your car than your brakes do.
like anything, fluid and rubber needs to be warm to be working in its optimum capacity.
give extra braking time when the car especially tires are cold
Last edited by justnspace; 12-08-2013 at 07:29 AM.
#7
I've had several customers with aftermarket brake pads that were so hard they did not work until they got hot, drag the brakes for a minute and see if they work better after they get hot, if so its the pads and flush the brake fluid like justinspace said
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#8
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M>BMW: I'm in the Great Lakes area too, but haven't had that problem. My car is usually garaged, but I do have to park outside overnight once in a while. In those cases, I'm usually thinking about our stellar oem battery as I start to turn the key lol. I'd be contacting your service guy Monday morning.. braking faster in a winter climate??
first, are we talking about the brake pedal or stopping the car??????
the brake pedal is mechanical and cannot be frozen.
brake fluid has a freezing point of -40 degrees.
so, its not your brake pedal or the brake fluid...
if we are talking about stopping the car, DUH!!!! you should leave ample time to stop, even braking early in cold and rainy weather.
the cold effects your tires, which has a greater emphasis on stopping your car than your brakes do.
like anything, fluid and rubber needs to be warm to be working in its optimum capacity.
give extra braking time when the car especially tires are cold
the brake pedal is mechanical and cannot be frozen.
brake fluid has a freezing point of -40 degrees.
so, its not your brake pedal or the brake fluid...
if we are talking about stopping the car, DUH!!!! you should leave ample time to stop, even braking early in cold and rainy weather.
the cold effects your tires, which has a greater emphasis on stopping your car than your brakes do.
like anything, fluid and rubber needs to be warm to be working in its optimum capacity.
give extra braking time when the car especially tires are cold
I think it might be this, we've never changed it.
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I know justin I know. The brake pedal worked for me to back up in reverse, stop the car, put it in drive, and then when I stopped at the close stop sign the brake pedal was HARD. it was stuck and at the same time it was very stiff but if you pressed really hard you could get it to brake at maybe 75%. later when I was getting off the offramp of the interstate the brakes worked fine.
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#10
One other thought. If you park outside it's possible that snow/ice has blown onto the rotors/pads/calipers. I had this happen to me once driving down a mountain in Virginia after parking outside in a big storm (different car though). Scared the s**& out of me. Just barely was able to stop. Had to clean out and melt some of the stuff off before proceeding.
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#11
I've had the exact same "Frozen Brakes" problem 3 different days this winter. Temperatures -20 C to -40 C (with windchill) here in Toronto a few times this Month.
First time it happened caught me off guard ... Car Stopped at first 3 stop signs no problem but would not stop when I came the stop light the 4th time. Had to stand on them and keep pumping until they eventually went down. The other 2 times I made sure I pumped brakes several times before leaving the driveway while the car was warming up, they were OK ... but not when I reached the stop signs.
When I say frozen brakes I'm not quite sure which part is stuck but the pedal feels like steel, it will not move down at all .. keeping pressure and pumping\tapping them eventually frees it up .. and just when you think it is ok it happens again at next stop sign.
As for the brake flush thing I don't think this is the issue. This past summer I did ..
April
Front Brakes - New Pads Rotors,
Sept
Rear Brakes - New Pads, Rotors, both calipers (they were seized), and complete brake system flush.
not to leave out that my 09 was one of the ones that had the TSB for brakes done just 2 years prior of which ...
they replaced all the Pads and serviced the brakes and rotors and adjusted some spring on the rear brake caliper to stop the premature uneven brake wear ... my rear pads had the inner pads completed worn out while the outer pads had plenty of material still left over.
As I mentioned above those rear calipers have finally been changed this past summer so I hope I do not have to ever deal with uneven brake wear or stuck calipers again.
One thing is quite clear, I think this may be a design flaw.
I never had this problem with Hondas before.
Drove a 91 Civc Si for 5 yrs 300K+ KM
Drove a 99 Civic SiR for 10 yrs 300K+ KM
Never once had to change calipers ... just Pads & Rotors.
First time it happened caught me off guard ... Car Stopped at first 3 stop signs no problem but would not stop when I came the stop light the 4th time. Had to stand on them and keep pumping until they eventually went down. The other 2 times I made sure I pumped brakes several times before leaving the driveway while the car was warming up, they were OK ... but not when I reached the stop signs.
When I say frozen brakes I'm not quite sure which part is stuck but the pedal feels like steel, it will not move down at all .. keeping pressure and pumping\tapping them eventually frees it up .. and just when you think it is ok it happens again at next stop sign.
As for the brake flush thing I don't think this is the issue. This past summer I did ..
April
Front Brakes - New Pads Rotors,
Sept
Rear Brakes - New Pads, Rotors, both calipers (they were seized), and complete brake system flush.
not to leave out that my 09 was one of the ones that had the TSB for brakes done just 2 years prior of which ...
they replaced all the Pads and serviced the brakes and rotors and adjusted some spring on the rear brake caliper to stop the premature uneven brake wear ... my rear pads had the inner pads completed worn out while the outer pads had plenty of material still left over.
As I mentioned above those rear calipers have finally been changed this past summer so I hope I do not have to ever deal with uneven brake wear or stuck calipers again.
One thing is quite clear, I think this may be a design flaw.
I never had this problem with Hondas before.
Drove a 91 Civc Si for 5 yrs 300K+ KM
Drove a 99 Civic SiR for 10 yrs 300K+ KM
Never once had to change calipers ... just Pads & Rotors.
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Mercedes>BMW (01-22-2014)
#12
I am getting the frozen brake pedal, too. It is happening to my car and others from the dealer where I got mine on cold days. The first time it happened, two weeks ago, I hit two cars at a red light that thankfully stopped me from going into the highway. This morning, the body shop called to tell me it happened to them while they were pulling the car into the garage to work on it. Corporate headquarters has shown no interest in wanting to know why their brake pedal is freezing. The part the dealer thinks will fix the problem just happens to be on a national back order. What is it going to take for a recall?
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#13
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a lot more people I guess... Why must, Mercedes, and BMW be such bastards when it comes to these little problems. Driving the car right now to get some coke and the problem keeps arrising.
#14
I am getting the frozen brake pedal, too. It is happening to my car and others from the dealer where I got mine on cold days. The first time it happened, two weeks ago, I hit two cars at a red light that thankfully stopped me from going into the highway. This morning, the body shop called to tell me it happened to them while they were pulling the car into the garage to work on it. Corporate headquarters has shown no interest in wanting to know why their brake pedal is freezing. The part the dealer thinks will fix the problem just happens to be on a national back order. What is it going to take for a recall?
By chance did they tell what the name of the part on back order is ?
Happened to me again this morning ... -30 Here with windchill.
This time around I pumped the brake many times before leaving driveway so no issue.
Let the car warm up for 5 minutes ...
first 3 times I pumped had normal brakes ... 4th pump and the pedal went hard ... stood on brakes and pedal finally went down, but still felt a little weird
Pumped another 10+ times just to make sure they were ok.
had no issues on my drive to hiway or the commute to work.
E
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Sorry to hear that My2010TSX ... Hope you are OK and did not get hurt.
By chance did they tell what the name of the part on back order is ?
Happened to me again this morning ... -30 Here with windchill.
This time around I pumped the brake many times before leaving driveway so no issue.
Let the car warm up for 5 minutes ...
first 3 times I pumped had normal brakes ... 4th pump and the pedal went hard ... stood on brakes and pedal finally went down, but still felt a little weird
Pumped another 10+ times just to make sure they were ok.
had no issues on my drive to hiway or the commute to work.
E
By chance did they tell what the name of the part on back order is ?
Happened to me again this morning ... -30 Here with windchill.
This time around I pumped the brake many times before leaving driveway so no issue.
Let the car warm up for 5 minutes ...
first 3 times I pumped had normal brakes ... 4th pump and the pedal went hard ... stood on brakes and pedal finally went down, but still felt a little weird
Pumped another 10+ times just to make sure they were ok.
had no issues on my drive to hiway or the commute to work.
E
-5 here when I posted earlier and that was when I drove the car. I let the car warm up for 10 minutes before driving (and actually it did warm up a bit), brake was working fine when putting it in gear, when I reversed that's when it froze and continue being frozen until 10 minutes later. I don't know if both of yours is the same but mine will work but you have to push really really hard, and if you take a bit of pressure off than the brake only works maybe 50%.
On another note I did go to the dealer and he was supposed to inspect my whole car since I'm nearing 100k and my extended warranty is going to be up then, but he informed me that I was lied to when I bought the extended warranty when buying the car, that it's not fully covering the car, just power train for 100k... Such bullshit what the dealer that I bought the car from did.
#16
-5 here when I posted earlier and that was when I drove the car. I let the car warm up for 10 minutes before driving (and actually it did warm up a bit), brake was working fine when putting it in gear, when I reversed that's when it froze and continue being frozen until 10 minutes later. I don't know if both of yours is the same but mine will work but you have to push really really hard, and if you take a bit of pressure off than the brake only works maybe 50%.
On another note I did go to the dealer and he was supposed to inspect my whole car since I'm nearing 100k and my extended warranty is going to be up then, but he informed me that I was lied to when I bought the extended warranty when buying the car, that it's not fully covering the car, just power train for 100k... Such bullshit what the dealer that I bought the car from did.
On another note I did go to the dealer and he was supposed to inspect my whole car since I'm nearing 100k and my extended warranty is going to be up then, but he informed me that I was lied to when I bought the extended warranty when buying the car, that it's not fully covering the car, just power train for 100k... Such bullshit what the dealer that I bought the car from did.
Ok kool. Thanks again for the info My2010TSX
We have similar problems ... mine usually goes away fast after the initial Frozen stuck pump ... make sure you pump them +10 times before leaving. When you are driving keep doing a brake test before coming to lights of stop signs.
Looks like we are on our own for now ... as Mercedes>BMW said it will take more of us to get in serious accidents or die for a TSB to come out.
Last edited by E-ManN; 01-24-2014 at 10:04 AM. Reason: forgot somwething
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#18
I stand corrected .. normal habit for us here.
the ambient temperature is -19 C
Where are you located ?
what's ambient temperature ?
what year is your TSX ?
How many KM (I have 175K KM)
thanks,
E
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On another note I did go to the dealer and he was supposed to inspect my whole car since I'm nearing 100k and my extended warranty is going to be up then, but he informed me that I was lied to when I bought the extended warranty when buying the car, that it's not fully covering the car, just power train for 100k... Such bullshit what the dealer that I bought the car from did.
#21
I've done a few TSBs including ...
- Brakes
- Roof rail rubber trim molds and outer A-pillar painted trim moldings
- PCM ECU flash update for OIL settings
yap ...
It's been bloody freaking cold winter here in Toronto with multiple windchill freeze alerts since mid December (ambient temp -20 C -28 C). This has been a harsh winter with lots of snow and one ice storm which knocked out 300K+ homes Power for periods up to 1 week at Christmas.
-13 is actually quite nice for us.
thanks,
E
#22
I've had the exact same "Frozen Brakes" problem 3 different days this winter. Temperatures -20 C to -40 C (with windchill) here in Toronto a few times this Month.
First time it happened caught me off guard ... Car Stopped at first 3 stop signs no problem but would not stop when I came the stop light the 4th time. Had to stand on them and keep pumping until they eventually went down. The other 2 times I made sure I pumped brakes several times before leaving the driveway while the car was warming up, they were OK ... but not when I reached the stop signs.
When I say frozen brakes I'm not quite sure which part is stuck but the pedal feels like steel, it will not move down at all .. keeping pressure and pumping\tapping them eventually frees it up .. and just when you think it is ok it happens again at next stop sign.
As for the brake flush thing I don't think this is the issue. This past summer I did ..
April
Front Brakes - New Pads Rotors,
Sept
Rear Brakes - New Pads, Rotors, both calipers (they were seized), and complete brake system flush.
not to leave out that my 09 was one of the ones that had the TSB for brakes done just 2 years prior of which ...
they replaced all the Pads and serviced the brakes and rotors and adjusted some spring on the rear brake caliper to stop the premature uneven brake wear ... my rear pads had the inner pads completed worn out while the outer pads had plenty of material still left over.
As I mentioned above those rear calipers have finally been changed this past summer so I hope I do not have to ever deal with uneven brake wear or stuck calipers again.
One thing is quite clear, I think this may be a design flaw.
First time it happened caught me off guard ... Car Stopped at first 3 stop signs no problem but would not stop when I came the stop light the 4th time. Had to stand on them and keep pumping until they eventually went down. The other 2 times I made sure I pumped brakes several times before leaving the driveway while the car was warming up, they were OK ... but not when I reached the stop signs.
When I say frozen brakes I'm not quite sure which part is stuck but the pedal feels like steel, it will not move down at all .. keeping pressure and pumping\tapping them eventually frees it up .. and just when you think it is ok it happens again at next stop sign.
As for the brake flush thing I don't think this is the issue. This past summer I did ..
April
Front Brakes - New Pads Rotors,
Sept
Rear Brakes - New Pads, Rotors, both calipers (they were seized), and complete brake system flush.
not to leave out that my 09 was one of the ones that had the TSB for brakes done just 2 years prior of which ...
they replaced all the Pads and serviced the brakes and rotors and adjusted some spring on the rear brake caliper to stop the premature uneven brake wear ... my rear pads had the inner pads completed worn out while the outer pads had plenty of material still left over.
As I mentioned above those rear calipers have finally been changed this past summer so I hope I do not have to ever deal with uneven brake wear or stuck calipers again.
One thing is quite clear, I think this may be a design flaw.
I've never posted here but was looking online for someone who has had this issue. 3 weeks ago we had a very cold morning. My car was warmed up before I pulled from my driveway and I broke a few times without any issues. As I approached the light to the highway, it was red and cars were there so I went to apply the brake and it was hard as a rock. I looked down at my foot to make sure nothing was there. I didn't have enough time to slow to a stop and wasn't thinking in terms of downshifting from my steering wheel. I ended up hitting two other cars. While I was on the phone with 911, I heard a stream of air as the brake pedal finally went down.
My dealer got at least two other calls the same day with the same issue. While it was in the body shop, the temperatures dropped again and the body shop called to tell me it happened to them while they were pulling my car into the garage to work on it.
The corporate office has shown no concern or care that their brakes are freezing up.
The dealer thinks it's a hose that is getting condensation--something to do with the master cylinder (sorry, I'm not a car person). The part was on a national back order (but there's no recall?? Hmmm) and they just got it in yesterday. The service manager just called to tell me he is going to drive it home tonight and see how it is in the morning before returning it to me.
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E-ManN (01-30-2014)
#23
im baaaack!!
I think its just this weather we have been having. I have had mine for a few years and it never happened until the damn polar vortex came by. Just warm it up a little longer next time it will be fine. I normally warm the car up 5 minutes now i doubled up to 10 just in case.
#24
I've run into this problem in the past, and it was moisture freezing in the vacuum booster line. One of the fixes was to re-route the line so there were no dips in the line, and generally slope it toward the engine. I don't think this was on any honda vehicles, and I haven't seen any campaigns, recalls, or tsbs from honda. My only source is mitchell on demand which may lag a bit behind factory info.
#29
Happened to me twice so far. Fortunately I was going slow and yoked up the ebrake. It's gotta be around 10 or below for this to happen from my experience. Now I start the car and pump the brakes a few times before I put it in drive.
#31
Frozen Brakes - Dealer Assistance Story
Hi everyone,
I too have experienced the "Frozen Brakes" at temperatures below 10 degrees or so - living in Chicago, this has happened many times. Since I have an Acura Extended Warranty, I brought the car to Ed Napleton Acura in Elmhurst, Illinois... and they took this situation very seriously.
Here is the events as they happened - sorry for the long post, but I hope it will assist others deal with this VERY unsafe situation.
First off, I dropped the car off in the late afternoon & I demanded the car sit outside overnight without being touched and that the first person who started it be a Tech or a Service Adviser (I didn't want a porter saying he could not replicate the problem). They allowed me to drive a loaded 2015 MDX while my car was being looked at (pretty nice ride, I must say - got to drive it for 2 weeks )
The next morning, they called & stated ... "We definately understand your concern as we had the same frozen brake pedal, unable to firmly stop the car type situation happen to us, until the car reached operating temperature".
They had indicated they had not seen this happen before, so they were going to work with Acura "Tech-line" to troubleshoot the situation.
First thing they did was flush the Brake fluid, thinking that there could be condensation in the fluid or lines which could freeze. I had the fluid changed by them only 6 months ago, but even still they told me it would not be chargable if found not to be the problem... so I said OK (this would have cost $150.00 if it was the problem). It was not the problem - the fluid was clean & fine. After replacing the fluid the problem remained.
A few warm days slowed progress, but they let me drive the MDX as they were working with Acura to resolve & document the problem.
A few more days transpired & they ordered a ""Master Cylinder, a "Brake Assist" and a "Check Valve" receiving guidance from Acura to replace these parts 1 by 1 to determine the failure.
To make a long story short, about another week went by & it has been resolved that the Master Power Check Valve for Brake system was the failed part.
It has been replaced & things are perfect now!!
When I mentioned the amount of posts to my dealer they stated that documenting issues like this is one of the important pieces of info that can lead to TSBs and / or Recalls, but at this time they are still accumulating data.
I wish you all very safe cars & hope my story will allow you to share this experience with your dealers or repair shops in case you have the exact same situation.
If you wish to see a copy of the invoices from the dealer, please email me & I can forward.
Stay warm everyone - not too much longer to spring!
I too have experienced the "Frozen Brakes" at temperatures below 10 degrees or so - living in Chicago, this has happened many times. Since I have an Acura Extended Warranty, I brought the car to Ed Napleton Acura in Elmhurst, Illinois... and they took this situation very seriously.
Here is the events as they happened - sorry for the long post, but I hope it will assist others deal with this VERY unsafe situation.
First off, I dropped the car off in the late afternoon & I demanded the car sit outside overnight without being touched and that the first person who started it be a Tech or a Service Adviser (I didn't want a porter saying he could not replicate the problem). They allowed me to drive a loaded 2015 MDX while my car was being looked at (pretty nice ride, I must say - got to drive it for 2 weeks )
The next morning, they called & stated ... "We definately understand your concern as we had the same frozen brake pedal, unable to firmly stop the car type situation happen to us, until the car reached operating temperature".
They had indicated they had not seen this happen before, so they were going to work with Acura "Tech-line" to troubleshoot the situation.
First thing they did was flush the Brake fluid, thinking that there could be condensation in the fluid or lines which could freeze. I had the fluid changed by them only 6 months ago, but even still they told me it would not be chargable if found not to be the problem... so I said OK (this would have cost $150.00 if it was the problem). It was not the problem - the fluid was clean & fine. After replacing the fluid the problem remained.
A few warm days slowed progress, but they let me drive the MDX as they were working with Acura to resolve & document the problem.
A few more days transpired & they ordered a ""Master Cylinder, a "Brake Assist" and a "Check Valve" receiving guidance from Acura to replace these parts 1 by 1 to determine the failure.
To make a long story short, about another week went by & it has been resolved that the Master Power Check Valve for Brake system was the failed part.
It has been replaced & things are perfect now!!
When I mentioned the amount of posts to my dealer they stated that documenting issues like this is one of the important pieces of info that can lead to TSBs and / or Recalls, but at this time they are still accumulating data.
I wish you all very safe cars & hope my story will allow you to share this experience with your dealers or repair shops in case you have the exact same situation.
If you wish to see a copy of the invoices from the dealer, please email me & I can forward.
Stay warm everyone - not too much longer to spring!
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#35
On another note I did go to the dealer and he was supposed to inspect my whole car since I'm nearing 100k and my extended warranty is going to be up then, but he informed me that I was lied to when I bought the extended warranty when buying the car, that it's not fully covering the car, just power train for 100k... Such bullshit what the dealer that I bought the car from did.
Lessons in life:
1) Women are liars
2) Car mechanics/dealers/sales people are all liars
3) Read EVERYTHING before you ever sign a document
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#36
Hi everyone,
I too have experienced the "Frozen Brakes" at temperatures below 10 degrees or so - living in Chicago, this has happened many times. Since I have an Acura Extended Warranty, I brought the car to Ed Napleton Acura in Elmhurst, Illinois... and they took this situation very seriously.
Here is the events as they happened - sorry for the long post, but I hope it will assist others deal with this VERY unsafe situation.
First off, I dropped the car off in the late afternoon & I demanded the car sit outside overnight without being touched and that the first person who started it be a Tech or a Service Adviser (I didn't want a porter saying he could not replicate the problem). They allowed me to drive a loaded 2015 MDX while my car was being looked at (pretty nice ride, I must say - got to drive it for 2 weeks )
The next morning, they called & stated ... "We definately understand your concern as we had the same frozen brake pedal, unable to firmly stop the car type situation happen to us, until the car reached operating temperature".
They had indicated they had not seen this happen before, so they were going to work with Acura "Tech-line" to troubleshoot the situation.
First thing they did was flush the Brake fluid, thinking that there could be condensation in the fluid or lines which could freeze. I had the fluid changed by them only 6 months ago, but even still they told me it would not be chargable if found not to be the problem... so I said OK (this would have cost $150.00 if it was the problem). It was not the problem - the fluid was clean & fine. After replacing the fluid the problem remained.
A few warm days slowed progress, but they let me drive the MDX as they were working with Acura to resolve & document the problem.
A few more days transpired & they ordered a ""Master Cylinder, a "Brake Assist" and a "Check Valve" receiving guidance from Acura to replace these parts 1 by 1 to determine the failure.
To make a long story short, about another week went by & it has been resolved that the Master Power Check Valve for Brake system was the failed part.
It has been replaced & things are perfect now!!
When I mentioned the amount of posts to my dealer they stated that documenting issues like this is one of the important pieces of info that can lead to TSBs and / or Recalls, but at this time they are still accumulating data.
I wish you all very safe cars & hope my story will allow you to share this experience with your dealers or repair shops in case you have the exact same situation.
If you wish to see a copy of the invoices from the dealer, please email me & I can forward.
Stay warm everyone - not too much longer to spring!
I too have experienced the "Frozen Brakes" at temperatures below 10 degrees or so - living in Chicago, this has happened many times. Since I have an Acura Extended Warranty, I brought the car to Ed Napleton Acura in Elmhurst, Illinois... and they took this situation very seriously.
Here is the events as they happened - sorry for the long post, but I hope it will assist others deal with this VERY unsafe situation.
First off, I dropped the car off in the late afternoon & I demanded the car sit outside overnight without being touched and that the first person who started it be a Tech or a Service Adviser (I didn't want a porter saying he could not replicate the problem). They allowed me to drive a loaded 2015 MDX while my car was being looked at (pretty nice ride, I must say - got to drive it for 2 weeks )
The next morning, they called & stated ... "We definately understand your concern as we had the same frozen brake pedal, unable to firmly stop the car type situation happen to us, until the car reached operating temperature".
They had indicated they had not seen this happen before, so they were going to work with Acura "Tech-line" to troubleshoot the situation.
First thing they did was flush the Brake fluid, thinking that there could be condensation in the fluid or lines which could freeze. I had the fluid changed by them only 6 months ago, but even still they told me it would not be chargable if found not to be the problem... so I said OK (this would have cost $150.00 if it was the problem). It was not the problem - the fluid was clean & fine. After replacing the fluid the problem remained.
A few warm days slowed progress, but they let me drive the MDX as they were working with Acura to resolve & document the problem.
A few more days transpired & they ordered a ""Master Cylinder, a "Brake Assist" and a "Check Valve" receiving guidance from Acura to replace these parts 1 by 1 to determine the failure.
To make a long story short, about another week went by & it has been resolved that the Master Power Check Valve for Brake system was the failed part.
It has been replaced & things are perfect now!!
When I mentioned the amount of posts to my dealer they stated that documenting issues like this is one of the important pieces of info that can lead to TSBs and / or Recalls, but at this time they are still accumulating data.
I wish you all very safe cars & hope my story will allow you to share this experience with your dealers or repair shops in case you have the exact same situation.
If you wish to see a copy of the invoices from the dealer, please email me & I can forward.
Stay warm everyone - not too much longer to spring!
TSX Club let me upload the invoices... Click on this link to take you to my posting on TSXclub.com
Thanks,
Rickp703
Brake Failure in Cold Weather - No Joke - Page 3 - Acura TSX Forum
#37
TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT
My pedal was frozen this morning. really weird.
1 degree this morning. But after i stomped on the pedal really hard (while parked) it was fine after that.
1 degree this morning. But after i stomped on the pedal really hard (while parked) it was fine after that.
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TSX AMG Type //M i-VVT