oh i didnt know we changed subject to TL's

if i had a choice before i bought my tl, i would have bought a camry..

sadly, it didnt come out till few months ago..

 

If I really had to buy a Camry and I had 11k extra it would look like this

 

LOLOL trade your car in.
the camry is a grandmas car.
you are sounding a lot like eazyrider, right about now
you no make sense

your 4G TL is superior in every way and you want a camry. lmao.

 

thanks potmilkz, wasnt bashing you or anything i was just curious to see why you thought the camry is a better buy

 

 

^i still like the acura's better

 

me too

 

what am i getting more out of a TSX that i cannot get out of a camry? few more hp? torq? like 5-10 difference?

what is really worth 10k that can possibly drive me to get a tsx over a camry.

Camry has speech to text feature, pandora radio, you can even install apps, touch screen as well..

mind i tell you that a tsx-tech cost as much as a TL-tech which is ridiculous in my book.

 

no, you make no sense..

i never had stated that the camry was superior to the TL, your assumptions are not valid.

are you not reading what i posted, i said if i didnt buy my tl at the time and this camry came out, i would have bought the camry..


we are talking about TSX and Camry, and you threw in a TL. stick to the topic please.. and no its not a grandmas car, thats your opinion, not a fact.

 

why do we have to stick to the subject?
conversations change the flow of the subject.

thats what makes conversations interesting.


I am reading everything you wrote.
If I'm comprehending right, you would be more comfortable in a camry instead of your TL, but the camry wasnt out yet.
I still stand by what I wrote.
trade your car in and get a '12 camry.


BUTT you wont trade your car in because you like it soo much.
you actually wouldnt dare trade in your TL for a camry.
because it is a grandmas car! lol

 

Only the tsx v6 tech overpriced edition costs as much as a Tl-tech, i walked a tech package out the door under 30k, which i doubt anyone is doing with a new tech TL.

What i am getting at is that if the engine and hp specs are the only things you are interested in you might as well look at shittier cars that are slightly faster.

But since you are looking for a list of reasons the tsx is better, ill start it off:

1. Its not a camry
2. Its an entry level luxury car, and not a toyota
3. Brand carries some respect with it, ppl are rarely impressed by "camry"
4. Refinement, interior materials, quality to the touch, and so many little things.
5. looks a lot better
6. you wont be like every other car on the road
7. New navi system, bt, HIDs, handsfree
8. most importantly, the two have wildly different driving dynamics. Im not saying the tsx is akin to driving an ariel atom, but compared to a camry, it might as well be.

edit: tried to google pics of 2012 camry interior. Fell asleep before i could copy the picture

 

yes, i would, and ill admit that but again, i already committed, if this had came out a year and half ago, i would have bought it, just because of price and what it offers vs what the tsx offered.

 

they didnt change the driving dynamics of the '12 model.
only the interior got a slight bit of an upgrade...LOL slightly.

I'm sure you're very unhappy in your $45k sport luxury vehicle

 

I heard those things fucking suck

 

Yea I'm trying to understand why potmilkz is rooting so hard for a camry se...if you like it so much and you're so pro-camry, why haven't you traded in your car for it? Or just sell your TL now and go get that camry se that you're obviously in love with...you can use the extra cash to mod the crap out of the camry...

 

^he wouldnt dare.

he's gotten accustomed to all the amenities.
spoiled even.

the '12 camry would SUCK.


The reason why I love Acura's is because of their sporty suspension. Like stated in this thread, its the bone jarring tight suspension feel that I love.
if you want a boaty ride, pick a camry.

 

1. 2012, for 2012. simple as that, your comparing a older year car for a new year car. your statement is not valid.

ive only mentioned the engine once, and they are only few hp/tq apart. never mention that the camry was much faster. stick to the facts, not make them up.

1. Its not a camry

(irrelavent..)

2. Its an entry level luxury car, and not a toyota

(true, but what does that have to do with anything. you dont buy car just because it has a entry-level luxury brand to it, unless your one of those people)

3. Brand carries some respect with it, ppl are rarely impressed by "camry"

(so were talking about giving impressions rather the features now?)

4. Refinement, interior materials, quality to the touch, and so many little things.

(id give you this, tsx does look better in my book, but again matter of opinion to buyer)

5. looks a lot better

(matter of opinion)

6. you wont be like every other car on the road

(how is this revelent.. this is a opinion)

7. New navi system, bt, HIDs, handsfree

(both have navi, one is superior to the other tho, both have blue tooth, camry doesnt have HID, yes they are both hands free)

8. most importantly, the two have wildly different driving dynamics. Im not saying the tsx is akin to driving an ariel atom, but compared to a camry, it might as well be.

(i agree with you on this one, camry aint no race car, but who really factors a race car as a reason to buy either one of them?)

 

again do you not read?

Quote:
Originally Posted by potmilkz
oh i didnt know we changed subject to TL's

if i had a choice before i bought my tl, i would have bought a camry..

sadly, it didnt come out till few months ago..

 

I do read...I didn't say buy the camry instead of your TL back then...i said why don't you trade it in or sell your TL now and then get this awesome camry that you want to sleep with so badly...

 

again, what does this have to do with my TL?

were talking about TSX and Camry, and dumbass comments come up with trading my TL. Obviously you dont know how to make a statement.

And your dumb for suggesting me to trade my 38k which im currently paying car for a 30k car. If your mind thinks this way, im not sure how you would survive in life.

 

but again, im on a acura forum, so obviously 99% of the time someone is going to have something bad to say.

pound for pound.

 

^did easy rider get a hold of you account?

 

For the record, all of us can fucking read. You wont make many friends on any forum by asking every person who disagrees with you if they can read. Having different opinions is great and all but dont insult the intelligence of others for no reason.


How is my statement still not valid? you can still get a tech tsx i4 for 30k, does not cost as much as a TL.

2. is important. Yes, i care about the perception that the vehicle i drive creates, i dont think its a crime, nor do i believe is it vain in any way.

3. were talking about comparing the cars. so its still valid.

4. definitely as far as material quality goes you have to give that one up

5. Okie dokie, i guess some people like the way it looks. Some people like fat chicks too
6. reverse camera, auto climate control, heated seats, ipod hookup, more random features

7. the point was not to directly compare the two cars to race cars, but to illustrate the vast difference in driving dynamics.

You can chalk 7 up to user preference too. My eldery mother, for example, prefers the ride of my sisters lexus to my TSX

 

oh god

 

Please then, do read my previous post before posting your comments that already has an answer. I have no intentions of making friends online, frankly i dont care. im not sure why you care that much either..




really.. and i can get a camry v6 with tech for the same price.. so now were comparing it to a TL?

again, this is a opinion, it has nothing to do with what is offered as far as features and options.

.

yes, we are talking about comparing cars, then stop talking about what impression it gives to other people.

yes and i agree with you on this..

some people just like to overpay for things as well..


oh, and you think the camry doesnt have all these?? plus more?

true, it is based on user preference, but given the majority, if you had 1000 random car buyers in a lot that only has tsx and camry, i can almost guarantee you that majority of them will pick up a camry due to that it offers same and maybe more features than the tsx but about 1/3 price cheaper.

given that we are comparing v6 to v6.. but if were comparing i4 tsx to v6 camry, both with tech package, you dont think buyers will pick the v6 with the price if a i4 tsx tech?

its called bang for your buck.. there are only a small majority of us that actually take driving dynamics into a consideration, and again i never stated that it is better than the tsx, but its comparable.

your a tsx owner so you will only disagree with me, but until you have actually looked and driven the new camry, all your giving me is what you really think it is.

 

I took all of that as sarcasm.

 

i got 3 toyotas in the household, i know how they drive, i highly, highly doubt the new one is any different, if it was, toyota would be alienating their key demographic of 40 year old women (average age of camry buyer is 60), and feel free to list off the features of the new camry since it has "plus more"

When i consider buying a car, i also consider what kind of image it portrays, maybe its not important to you but in the context of a comparison it is important to me and therefore relevant in my comparison.

and for the record, you could put a million buyers in the lot, doesn't mean the majority opinion is the correct one

 

well...the camry appeals to the "older" folks that just want reliable transportation.

here's an article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16774146...et-old-stuffy/

its a few years old...but here is the "grandma" image of the camry.

 

i agree. when i drive my MDX i feel like i'm like all the other "soccer mom" types and i blend in with the typical demographics of the area i live in. i love how the MDX handles and the muscular look, unlike it's lexus counterpart which is so...blah. i drive my TL...its a reflection of it's owner...lots of pride in my ride...and damn proud to own an Acura!

to be fair in the overall discussion, the majority could give rat's a$$ about the image their car portrays. their car is an appliance point A to point B. enthusiasts tend to lean toward a car that is an extension of its owner. so really a lot of this argument is about personal preferences and what they want out of car. if potmilkz likes what the camry has to offer, then hey...more power to him. yes you're on an Acura forum, opinions will be biased towards the TSX, b/c we are enthusiasts and enjoy the creature comforts and fun factor that the TSX has to offer as an entry level luxury vehicle. all cars have some sterotype or stigma to them...good or bad.

 

I am a little proud that I drive an Acura and it shows in my biased post.

 

Exactly. One can argue night and day whether a fully loaded camry or a TSX is a better car. But nobody can dispute, as a fact, that Camrys are everywhere on the road. And I wanted to stand out from the masses. That alone, might be a good enough reason to buy a TSX over a Camry. It was for me.

 

2012 Camry has a leather wrapped dash o.o

 

2012 Camry SE interior. Navigaton screen is not on eyesight. steering size is bigger


Car is poorly designed.










Acura uses much thicker glass for insulation and thermal protection. sterring needs 2.6 turns lock to lock.

 

You cannot this good gauges in any $30k car.

 

I've driven a 2012 Camry SE. It definitely feels much more refined than the previous gen, and has a lot more features but as far as driving experience goes, it sucks IMO. It was bland and boring. I'd recommend test driving the TSX and the Camry. The driving experience will speak for itself. I think it's worth spending an extra 2-3K for a much better car.

 

But does your V6 have a different cluster from the 4 cylinder like ours?



http://www.autoblog.com/photos/toyot.../#photo-196661

Pretty hard choice for me as to which cluster is better :l

 

Hey guys, I think my 2012 Honda Civic Si is just as good as a 2010 Lexus IS250.

 

O.T but I was in my friends IS250 the other day and I actually preferred the clean white look of her gauges :l

When I look closely at my Accords the matte plastic they use in the centre and surrounds seems a bit...cheap?

 

When you look at the feature list and performance specs it's hard to find fault with your argument. The Camry in V6 SE is a value no doubt when measured against a TSX V6 with comparable trim, although I'm confused as to where you get the $11K difference when a well dressed 2012 Toyota Camry SE V6 goes for $30,935. A TSX V6 Tech runs about $38,450K. But gheezus that interior is bad. Deal breaker for me.

 

well i stated what i need to state here.. this is what is expected on a acura/tsx forum.. so no surprises here..

im still curious on why people would pay 38k for a v6 tech tsx when they could just get a TL- tech for that price.. i guess they just like their interior to look like the new accords..