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Old 08-30-2011, 09:12 AM
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$3 and $4 car wash safe for tsx?

Have any of you guys taken your tsx's to these places? Had any bad experiences?
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are these hand washes? or machine washes?

even if both, these places do multiple cars a day.
their water is filthy and not to mention their rags are probably filled with dirt that can scratch your paint.

What color is your TSX? if its a dark color, these scratches commonly known as swirls will show up.
Acura's are known for soft paint.
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Machines. I have a light color but don't want to risk. Ill do it the old fashioned way. Thanks
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machines are even worse!!!!!
their bristles can cause swirls 10x as much!
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Yeah never go through the machine wash LOL
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Acuras are no different from other modern cars. Most now use a water based painting process that is safer for the environment but results in "softer" paint.

The clearcoat on modern paints will get swirl marks that are more evident on darker paint and hidden better on light paint (but are still there.)

Any washing process will induce swirl marks but public car washes will leave you with many more swirls and (most likely) a proper scratch or two.

Give your car a proper wash, clay, polish and wash and gently hand wash it using a soap made for car washes and a high quality automotive paint safe sponge every few weeks. Re-do the clay, polish, wax steps about twice a year and your car will always look good - even when dirty.
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Stick to a hand wash by yourself....or with a cute girl too.
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wash it yourself.

Never take it through a car wash and never let Acura wash it after they do work on it.
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haha saucy, +1!
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Touchless car washes are the best way to go. I mean any of the automated car wash where nothing ever touches your car except high pressure water. Once the finish is soiled, even hand washing will grind the dirt against the clear coat and produce scratches. Your better off to leave the dirt on the finish until you can pressure wash it off rather than grind it in with a sponge or a car wash that uses brushes. Machine washes that use brushes are absolutely the worst way to "clean" your car. Especially on a bright winter day when there's a line of filthy cars 20 deep waiting. All the dirt you see on those cars will be ground into your finish like a polishing rouge.

The problem is, unless you have a good coat of wax on your finish and wash regularly, the touchless washes don't remove all of the dirt and your left with a thin film of grime. So, when weather permits I run through the touchless or pressure wash first and then go at it with a sponge and car wash detergent. This method greatly reduces scratching and swirl marks. I also have a 10 year old black TL and that finish still looks great with a coat of wax on it.
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Originally Posted by tvac
Touchless car washes are the best way to go. I mean any of the automated car wash where nothing ever touches your car except high pressure water. Once the finish is soiled, even hand washing will grind the dirt against the clear coat and produce scratches. Your better off to leave the dirt on the finish until you can pressure wash it off rather than grind it in with a sponge or a car wash that uses brushes. Machine washes that use brushes are absolutely the worst way to "clean" your car. Especially on a bright winter day when there's a line of filthy cars 20 deep waiting. All the dirt you see on those cars will be ground into your finish like a polishing rouge.

The problem is, unless you have a good coat of wax on your finish and wash regularly, the touchless washes don't remove all of the dirt and your left with a thin film of grime. So, when weather permits I run through the touchless or pressure wash first and then go at it with a sponge and car wash detergent. This method greatly reduces scratching and swirl marks. I also have a 10 year old black TL and that finish still looks great with a coat of wax on it.
Not quite correct.

Since touchless car washes can only remove dirt with soap and water pressure, they often use harsh chemicals that may strip whatever wax protection you may have.

You should only use them if you intend to hand wash, polish and wax right after.
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:06 PM
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In the winter I use the self serve car wash where its just coin operated and you use the hose provided, I never use the power brush tho, in the winter I use good ol' house water
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Originally Posted by ceb
Not quite correct.

Since touchless car washes can only remove dirt with soap and water pressure, they often use harsh chemicals that may strip whatever wax protection you may have.

You should only use them if you intend to hand wash, polish and wax right after.
Agreed, but during the winter you have no choice and eventually will have to wash to remove road salt buildup. A decent wax job will hold up through several or more washes.
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Houston doesnt have winters
my car is clean all year round
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Originally Posted by tvac
Agreed, but during the winter you have no choice and eventually will have to wash to remove road salt buildup. A decent wax job will hold up through several or more washes.
Sure, I use ONR (Optimum No Rinse)in my driveway during the winter. ONR won't remove wax and does a very credible job in removing salt and dirt while not scratching the car.
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Here is a writeup on ONR and the proper washing method.

http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...-no-rinse-onr/

http://www.detailedimage.com/Ask-a-P...in-the-winter/
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I get charged for water at my house so I just go to the coin op one and take all my shit with me in the trunk.
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Originally Posted by ceb
Sure, I use ONR (Optimum No Rinse)in my driveway during the winter. ONR won't remove wax and does a very credible job in removing salt and dirt while not scratching the car.
These are great articles. I've been doing this for years without knowing it was called ONR. I've never used that product but I pretty much follow that process several times a season. I think one of the most important parts of the process has to be the use of the grit guards and if you don't follow the procedure exactly you'll end up doing more harm than good.
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Originally Posted by tvac
These are great articles. I've been doing this for years without knowing it was called ONR. I've never used that product but I pretty much follow that process several times a season. I think one of the most important parts of the process has to be the use of the grit guards and if you don't follow the procedure exactly you'll end up doing more harm than good.
ONR has the advantage of being really slippery stuff that does a great job of lifting off dirt and sliding it off without scratching and no rinsing is required.

You're right though that the basic concept is the same regardless of products used. Grit guards are imperative.
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