soontoownTL

i have been doing allot of research on rims with what fits and what doesn't. i have done hours of searching on this website, found tons of information but i still have one problem, all you guys say the 8.5 wide rims dont fit, but yet there are allot of websites selling rims that say there are certain ones that do. i understand the whole offset and everything like that. my concern is if tirerack or some of these other paces say that a 19 x 8.5 fits do i still buy it and then have rubbing issues or what do you guys recomend? im from canada so to buy from tirerack would be a pain especially if they dont fit. some suggestions please? thanks.

Hockeyman

bigger is not always better, 8.5 will fit without a drop, but you will be a 4x4....so stick with something less than 8.5 because you will need a drop with big rims.

vzuptnguyen

go to a tire place. they know it all.

JPTL-S

When trying to determine proper wheel fitment you can not rely solely on rim width. You must also consider the offset of the wheel.

Here is your guideline if you intend not to modifiy / roll your fender: https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/01-cl-s-stuff-sale-121066/

CL Platano

Word 19x8.5 will fit with the correct offset.

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iTrader: (2)

Bottom line, most tire places have to deal with hundreds of models and wheel/tire combinations. If you want the gods honest truth, listen to us. We've seen them all and can tell you without question what will fit and what will not.

With that said, I'm moving this to the correct forum.

kuni808

19x8.5 will fit with at least the minimum of +45 offset with the correct tire size. i believe i forgot who it was they has the SSM TL with 19x8.5 Axis Hiros +45 offset with a drop and he said they did not rub. i believe it was 225/35/19 or 225/40s??? he had to cut the rear tabs off and if you roll the rear fenders i dont think you will have a problem. as long as the drop is not insane. but it looks sweet on his TL. but i believe 19x8.5 does fit but you need at least a minimum of +45 offset.

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iTrader: (2)

STOP THE FUCKING INSANITY......

19x8.5 + 45 is not even close the right offset. Please kuni808, stop giving him the wrong information.


Here are the facts:
19x8 +50 is the ideal width and offset. 235/35/19 series tires will fit no problem.
8.5" wide wheels would require a +52 or +53 offset to fit properly

njzprettyboy

I agree. But, many wheels dont come in these high offsets, or in 8" wide. So, you can run a 19 by 8.5 with a 45 offset, 225/35/19 tires. search, quite a few members have ran this. this size seems to be the closest fitting one that axis makes. you will have to trim you bumper tab, but thats not hard. There is also a set of wheels that are 19 by 8.5 in the rear with the right 50 or so offset in the BM. They are Mayas, 3 piece, and the price is right lol. Chk em out:

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...highlight=maya

boku

iTrader: (1)

K, I hate having to reply to these all the time, but someones gotta do it....

Kuni's not giving wrong information just like u'r not giving wrong information. 19x8 would fit better then 8.5's but so would 19x2 for that matter. If u've shopped for 19's lately u'd find wheel suppliers aren't putting to much on the FWD demo right now. Their main concern seems to be the RWD/SUV customer; so have fun finding a domestic or Chinese (high volume) wheel with a +52 offset....

Kuni's right that there are people that run lower then recommended offsets on this forum; and that's where the confusion lies. There are people who try to follow that recommendation and people who don't. Just because it's the "ideal" offset doesn't mean that nothing else is possible, just look at essrak - 20x10's, Rev01 - 20x9, Pimpravi - 19x8.5 for example. All of those required modification, weather just a little or major fender reconstruction, in the end they fit.

Lawaia

Our objective to provide everyone with correct fitment is based upon the ability to bolt on your new set of wheels WITHOUT having to re-engineer sheetmetal. Not everyone here is willing, or has the know-how to accomplish these fender modifications so we take this into consideration when a recommendation is made.
If we based all fitment on the fact that modifications were necessary, we would be recommending crap like this.


I'll bet these would fit with a little nip and tuck huh?

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iTrader: (2)

Then don't.

Couldn't have said it better Lawaia. Bottom line is anything will fit with body work. A little fender modification becomes..."Oh fuck, I cracked the paint on my fenders and you all said these would fit without rubbing"

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CL Platano

Someone needs sleep and a hug...

soontoownTL

i just wanna say thanks for all the information you guys have been a great help. it seems like a huge headache to get 19's on, and i am having a bitch of a time finding the wheels i want that fit withoput modification, so i think i might go with 18's to be on the safe side, if i feel like rolling fenders and cutting tabs and all that then maybe in the future, but not right now. thanks again for all the info, its a bit of a grey area and this info has really helped me, thank you!

MrAlex

with 18 in rims go with 225/40-18 tires.. and if your rims are 18*7.5 you need +45 or more offset, 18*8 + 48 or more..

ssk0771

Here are the fact from experience.


__x7.5 +48 offset. No issues what so ever.

__x7.5 +42 offset with 235's Need to cut the fender tab (Very easy)

__x8 +48 offset with 235's Need to cut the fender tab (very easy)

REV-01

since i am both a tl owner and a rim shop owner, i figure i will chime in...

if someone comes in my shop with a tl and want a set of wheels, and if they don't know much technical info about them, i will sell them a set of wheels with high enough offset to ensure no rubbing.

if someone comes in my shop with a tl and want a set of wheels with maximum lip and willing to do some fender mods, i will sell them a something with a lower offset/lower disk/wider wheel.

since i sell high end build to order stuff such as Work and AME. i don't tell customer that 19x8.5 et45 fit on tl like what those cheapie wheel places. they tell you fits just so they can push the product to make $.

i sold a set of AME shallen CX on 2 gen tl with a 19x8.5 et45 3 inch lip before. but i let the customer know that it requires fender rolling and rocking stretch style tires such as falken and dunlop tires. and i let them know all that before the 3 month build time from japan

MrAlex

I had 18*7.5 +45 with 235/40-18 before.. fenders roled + tabs cutted.. and they always rubbed..

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iTrader: (2)

If you went with 225s you'd have far less problems.

optomos

boku

iTrader: (1)

yeah, wow dude 235/40/18s?

damn I love those.

njzprettyboy

^^yup, it depends on how aggresive you tires is too, as well as your drop. I went with 20 X 8, with a 38 et. The back of the pad of the wheel was shaved 5 mm, so it is like a 43mm et. I run a 225/35/20 nitto tire...........I dont rub, since I cut the bumper tab. I can have the car practically sitting on the floor...the wheels do not touch any metal. but, this is probably the most aggressive fit I could run. There wasnt even space in the front for a 5 mm spacer for a bbk!

njzprettyboy

got pics?

REV-01

i don't have the one on the tl, but i have some pics from other sets of cx i sold before




i wish the customer bought a set of tires from me instead, he decided to go with federal tires, they are too meaty for my taste. not enough scretch even though is a 215 on a 9 and 225 on a 10

here is a different set on my customer's g35 coupe

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iTrader: (2)

Yeah those tires look way too narrow for those rims.

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iTrader: (2)

The one thing most people don't realize is that the lower you drop the car, the lower the offset can be. Ever notice how badly the camber is off on a car that is severly dropped. Like this.

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It's all about the geometry of the suspension system. It's terrible for tires, but will allow you to go with a much lower offset. It's definitely NOT recommended.

soontoownTL

do you guys recommend getting a set of rims that have the jwl and via standards on them ???

LoloTL

That my friend is the "stretched" look that is hot these days. Dirfters have them on their cars, not sure why, but it exposes the rim a bit more and that is dangerous when trying to park the ride. CURB CHECK HELL....I think those CX's are shit-hot!! How much do those go for?