Mista Juice

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so i finally got around to TRYING to install some tein coilovers i bought from someone on here a long time ago.. figured id take care of the front first since they are cake.. so i put the perches roughly 4 threads from the bottom on both sides and dropped the car.. it sat on the fucking GROUND and tucked the tire.. NOT what i wanted.. i proceeded to raise the perches a few threads about 3 more times until its now damn near the top of the threads.. dropped the car down and its STILL lower than my comptech springs were.. WTF?..

is there something new i need to know about installing these or what?.. are the struts crapped out maybe?.. i was really looking forward to finally getting these on so i could even out the drop on my car and make it a bit stiffer.. now after hours of bullshit, im right back where i started..

Phrosttz0

thats really weird...cuz the SS should not tuck tire in the front at that level.

Mista Juice

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im wondering now also if maybe he sent me the wrong springs.. he also had the shortened optional springs for sale in the same thread.. can anyone verify the numbers printed on the true "stock" ss springs?

nguyen

post pics

01tl4tl

go to MrHeelToe and look up the tein setting specs and install directions
You measure up from a point at the bottem of the shock and set the perch there
It results in about 1.5 to 1.75 inch drop- roughly 2 fingers clearance tire to fender lip
www.heeltoeauto.com
teinusa.com will have the part numbers to confirm

01tl4tl

when you raise the lower perch you must use a spring compressor to take the weight off them- otherwise binding can occur

on the shocks themself- turn the small adjuster on top all the way right- clockwise,
thats full stiff dampening
Now go counter clockwise-left- a max of 16 clicks- thats max soft setting
about 8 of 16 is where most of us start with the adjustment and go a few up or down from that as desired
Do not go lower than down 16 or you mess up the shock

Once you get the spring height set you will need an alignment
Camber wil be neg past limits but if less than 1.5 neg its fine-
set the toe and let it go~

Mista Juice

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didnt realize that you were supposed to go all the way to 16 FIRST, then go down.. maybe thats the issue.. that theres basically nothing in the strut?.. i dunno.. i sent a PM to MrHeeltoe pointing him to this thread..

another thing.. there isnt some sort of "adapter" or anything for between the spring and hat right?.. the tein springs have an obvious smaller diameter than the regular springs..

Mista Juice

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so after looking around online, i found a site that had the .pdf of the install directions.. so it looks like thats the only thing i didnt do was to tighten the damper screw first.. hopefully thats the problem..

and just to make sure.. i adjust the dampening when the car is still in the air right?.. seems like the obvious thing to do, but just checking..

Phrosttz0

either or, ive always adjusted the dampening on the ground.

Mista Juice

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tried setting them on full stiffness and no dice.. did the exact same thing.. so now im back on my comptechs for now..

once again.. while im waiting on responses from mrheeltoe and tein, if anyone has spare time and wouldnt mind letting me know what numbers are printed on your springs i would appreciate it..

tegkid

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post pics of your setup.

Mista Juice

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umm.. what setup?

to you and the other one above asking for pics.. what good would that do?

01tl4tl

call Marcus-MrHeelToe,, number in his signature
sunday is a good time to reach him

see this for Tein counterfeit part info as general info,,and to be sure
http://www.tein.com/counterfeit/index.html

Phrosttz0

whats the number on your springs? i have the optional springs on mine.

tegkid

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a picture of your strut assembly.
maybe a piece is missing or in the wrong place or not sitting right.

do you have the installation manual from tein's website for the 98-02 accord?

Phrosttz0

if the springs on em, have the code J070-HAC1, then you have the shorter springs.

tegkid

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if you do in fact have the shorter springs; i'd trade you

Mista Juice

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gotcha.. and no, i found it on another site that sells them..
fuck.. they arent the shorter springs..

and yes.. that is where i had the perch on the car and i had MAYBE a finger gap..

tegkid

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http://www.tein.com/tech_info/h94-ua5.html

scroll down to tein ss

Phrosttz0

maybe you put the rear springs on the front, just an idea..

Mista Juice

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umm.. ok.. as stated many posts ago and in my last post, i already found that exact .pdf on another dealers site.. thats how i knew about setting the dampening to the highest point..
there is a definite difference between the front and back springs so im highly doubting that..

Phrosttz0

yeah i figured you knew, but other have done that...

DC3328

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i was gonna suggest this becuz theres something very wrong if they're tucking with the perches all the way at the top, mine are all the way on the bottom and theres no gap, no tuck

Mista Juice

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yeah.. the coil diameter and overall spring diameter are both a lot larger on the rears..

jayunsplanet

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Shocks blown?? re-valved?? Grasping at straws...

JDM Inspired

If your car is slammed like that I say leave it!! lol.....

MrHeeltoe

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That was going to be my guess.

MrHeeltoe

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Blown shocks are not the problem. It likely has something to do with the springs being incorrect. I really don't see what else it can be.

MrHeeltoe

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SG040 IS the rear spring silly goose.

Mista Juice

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so wait.. the rear springs are thinner and more narrow than the front?.. thats the first time i have EVER seen that before..

MrHeeltoe

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The rear springs are always a smaller gauge on FWD cars. The fronts need to be significantly heavier than the rear.

BTW, calling me or emailing might have gotten you an answer faster, just fyi. I wish I would have been able to answer sooner!

01tl4tl

makes sense -the front of the car weighs more, and under braking- more force and weight is transferred to the front shocks
70 percent of braking force is from the fronts

Imagine if you had softer springs in front- the nose dive would take off the lower skirt~

DC3328

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the top two are the front, the bottom two are the rear

Mista Juice

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those have "HTC" after the "G040".. mine have "DPC".. difference?

and there was no huge hurry because i wouldnt have had the time to swap them all out anyways.. i just threw the comptech/tokico combo back on for the time being..

much appreciated though.. huge sigh of relief that they arent screwed up or something..

tegkid

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oh well if you did look at the pdf; they have dimensions for each assembly (front and rear) and its obvious that the smaller springs go on the rear as with most all fwd cars.

Mista Juice

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actually on the .pdf instructions, it says nothing about the spring sizes.. the values they give are for setting the perch at a designated starting point and measuring how far the wheel/tire is from the fender.. the only thing that might show size of the spring is in the exploded diagram of the spring/strut assembly where it has the "070-090-L250" and "070-100-L250" on the different springs.. both dont correlate with any numbers on the springs..

tegkid

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oh whoops. i thought the 090 was diameter or radius.
maybe not.

Mista Juice

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so after going out and verifying yet again, i still didnt believe that those were the rears.. i looked at the rears when the car was jacked up in the front and the diameter of the spring looked way too large, which is why i chose the springs i chose to put on the front.. after checking against my stocks, i realized that the rear springs actually taper IN as they go up, creating a LOT smaller spring diameter where it meets the hat.. so now i have fully verified that i simply had the springs backwards and they are the correct ones..

thanks for all the input.. it was much appreciated..

SSTL

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Glad you got it fixed, post pics once your done!

Black-Balled

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I laughed, I cried, I loved it.