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Old 03-21-2009, 08:41 AM
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If you guys would pick a suspension (shocks and springs) which one would it be?

Im torn in between 2 diff suspention setups. I need New shocks on my car
(165 K miles) so instead of getting the OEM for about $300 im going to spend a little more and get some aftermarket shocks and springs set.
I narrowed it down to 2 diff setups:

1)B&G S2K Sport Suspension lowering Kits Part #04.3.008
(lowers about 1.6 inches)
B&G S2K Sport Suspension lowering Kits are designed for the enthusiast who desires a fully engineered suspension kit utilizing experience, technology, and the finest quality components. Each S2 lowering Kit is the result of 150 years of spring and 40 years of shock design and manufacturing expertise. All components of the S2 Kits are ISO and TUV Certified, and back by a Limited Lifetime Warranty.

Shocks and dampers in the S2K employ a secure gas charged twin tube design. This configuration prevents shock failure during high use and allows for separate multi-staged rebound and compression valving. The result is a superior ride that reduces pitch and roll, reacts immediately to rough surfaces and maintains a smooth and stable ride on high-speed raved roads.

S2K shocks and dampers are valved to work in harmony with the matched B&G lowering springs. The result is a complete suspension solution with the ultimate in ride quality and performance.

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Matched spring rates and shock valving provide the ultimate in ride quality and performance.
Shocks and dampers offer separate multi-staged rebound and compression that reacts immediately to rough surface and maintains a smooth and stable ride at high speed.
Fully engineered suspension kit utilizing experience, technology, and the finest quality components.
Limited Lifetime Warranty

or

2)Tokico Spring/Shock Kit - HPK part #HPK275
(lowers about 1.4 inches)
TOKICO’s HP Series – the famous “Blue Shock” – continues to be the overwhelming choice of performance enthusiasts looking for the best in overall handling and ride quality. The HP Series damping typifies TOKICO’s valving flexibility and philosophy by minimizing low speed damping force and greatly increasing damping at medium and high piston speeds for improved compliance, tire adhesion and handling.

TOKICO HPK Kits offer Four HP Series Shocks and Four Lowering Springs for exceptional performance.

Thanks for all your advice!!
Also Do you guys think I will need a camber kit with any or these 2 setups?
Both are about the same price shipped so price is no object (both under $500 shipped)

THANKS!!
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both shocks are pretty much the same as factory shocks..Have you concidered full coilovers?
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Originally Posted by ProjectTLS
both shocks are pretty much the same as factory shocks..Have you concidered full coilovers?
Yes they are out of my budget I do not want to spend more then $500 shipped to my door so coilovers are a no no unless i can find a set for under $500 which is not possible.

I did alot or research and these 2 are pretty much my ONLY choices.
I want to keep the ride semi stock just a little lower and a little better.
I like the stock ride and don't want to get away from that too much!
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None of those. With your budget
H&R sports and KYB-GR2 you can get them for about 500-550 (shocks and springs)
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Eibach Pro-Kit and stock shocks FTW...
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Originally Posted by ZEUS'O3TL
Eibach Pro-Kit and stock shocks FTW...
I NEED new shocks, I want one of the two I listed no KYB or other co.
I guess no one has or knows of anyone that has these setups?
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You could get coilover sleeves (ground control, skunk 2, etc.)
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GR-2s are OK..I had them a long time ago but they couldnt handle the drop I was on. If youre getting lowering springs, any of those shocks would do.
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Originally Posted by . N B P .
You could get coilover sleeves (ground control, skunk 2, etc.)
With the price of those coilovers and shocks, might as well invest in full coilovers.
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Originally Posted by ProjectTLS
GR-2s are OK..I had them a long time ago but they couldnt handle the drop I was on. If youre getting lowering springs, any of those shocks would do.
They are sprink/Shock set. Its a set that come with 4 shocks and 4 springs.
They come together and I found the sets both for under $500 shipped!
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both me and soria got our new setup's for 500 plus/minus a buck or 2. tokico hp's with h&r sports!! FTW
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Ok, if you drop, you're pretty much gonna have to get a camber/alignment kit. I just dropped my 01 TL on tein stechs and tokico blue shocks, rides super smooth on a smooth road, little stiff on the bumps, but it cuts a turn like a hot knife through butter. Excelerate has that setup for 550 for 99-03 TL's, but I have to get a camber kit cuz my tires are wearing out like crazy. Camber/Alignment kit is $74 each axle.
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You dont really need an alignment if you get a small drop. It doesnt hurt, but youre only adjusting toe. The camber is whats eating up your tires. If you want the proper drop, I'd suggest getting the shocks/springs, then getting a camber kit all the way around. Your tires will last you as if you never dropped it. If you slam your car, a camber kit is useless.
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Originally Posted by FireNation23
Ok, if you drop, you're pretty much gonna have to get a camber/alignment kit. I just dropped my 01 TL on tein stechs and tokico blue shocks, rides super smooth on a smooth road, little stiff on the bumps, but it cuts a turn like a hot knife through butter. Excelerate has that setup for 550 for 99-03 TL's, but I have to get a camber kit cuz my tires are wearing out like crazy. Camber/Alignment kit is $74 each axle.
You should not have that much camber from that drop to wear out your tires like you state. Did you get an alignment? Toe is a side effect from lowering that will wear out your tires 10x faster than camber
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Toe is a killer for sure...inner tire wear (bad camber) is a common issue when dropping since all that added weight is on the inner edges of the tire. you can look at your tires in most cases to see if you got bad toe...tires have a feathered look to it...my ingalls camber kit i have on the rear has served me well for about two years now. The rear camber kit completely resolved my rear camber issues perfectly and as a bonus, the rears actually helped to allow my fronts to be dialed within "Green" acceptable range now..i may still get front camber kits to truly maximize tire life.
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Originally Posted by CJITTY
Toe is a killer for sure...inner tire wear (bad camber) is a common issue when dropping since all that added weight is on the inner edges of the tire. you can look at your tires in most cases to see if you got bad toe...tires have a feathered look to it...my ingalls camber kit i have on the rear has served me well for about two years now. The rear camber kit completely resolved my rear camber issues perfectly and as a bonus, the rears actually helped to allow my fronts to be dialed within "Green" acceptable range now..i may still get front camber kits to truly maximize tire life.
I'm on Tein SS coils and I bought the SPC camber kits for front and rear before putting my new tires on. I agree with you...If you want to save your tires, you need a FULL camber kit (front and rear) when you lower your car. You are just going to kick yourself if you dont.
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I picked up the B&G kit (shocks and springs for 460 shupped) from EXCELERATE from this site and it drives/handles great, and its comfhy not rough at all stock feel..
Im happy as HELL!
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Hey do you have any pics? Would like to see how it looks lowered.
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Originally Posted by SSTL
Hey do you have any pics? Would like to see how it looks lowered.
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I don't remember seeing anyone's 2G TL with your suspension setup.
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The B@G setup is AWSOME, car looks great rides great, for $ the price you can beat it!
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i put tein s-tech and kyb agx shocks with ingalls front and rear camber kit and my car rides perfect for what the set up is.
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Here is my car with a B&G setup.. inch and a half front and rear..

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whole setup cast me $465 for the parts shipped (4 B&G shocks and 4 B&G springs from Excelerates website) and 2 cases of beer for the install (I work at a car dlr)
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Your drop looks great! Looks about the same as my H&R Sport drop.
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Originally Posted by StonedCL
whole setup cast me $465 for the parts shipped (4 B&G shocks and 4 B&G springs from Excelerates website) and 2 cases of beer for the install (I work at a car dlr)

Are these the ones you bought?

http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-232410.aspx
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Originally Posted by SSTL
Yep that is what I bought and no complaits, just praise..
No camber kit needed and my alignment was not off at all.
Car rides like a brand new CL-s..
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The suspension on their website retails for $739 and I did look around a little and Excelerates prices where the best and his customer support was second to none!


http://b-gsuspension.com/

S2K Sport Suspension Kits
Make: Acura
Model: CL
Year: 2001
Part Number: 04.3.008
Front and Rear Drop: 1.5" | 1.5"
Chassis: YA4
MSRP: $739.00
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Cool I will most likely pick them up as well. Just wanted to make sure it included springs and shocks . I agree with you, EX always puts up with my many annoying questions.

Thanks!
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I know this has been touched before, I couldnt find it when i searched but what about lowering springs with new oem shocks? Has anyone ever had this set up?
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I know this has been touched before, I couldnt find it when i searched but what about lowering springs with new oem shocks? Has anyone ever had this set up?
You deff can but it would put more strain on your stock shocks.
If your shocks are stock from when the car was new chances are that they need to be replaced, i dropped my car cuz i needed new shocks and the stock shocks where like $350 shipped so i figured i'd spend an extro $110 get new springs with the shocks and be done with it.
Why take apart your shocks twice , and pay someone twice to do it, do itright the first time!@
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Originally Posted by kidduce
I know this has been touched before, I couldnt find it when i searched but what about lowering springs with new oem shocks? Has anyone ever had this set up?
I did this on my honda accord back in the day and i had eibach pro kit springs with stock struts..then, i bought new monroe sens-a-trac or whatever from sears and it was just fine, car rode like new and very comfortable.

I am currently debating back and forth on what route i need to go now with my TL..go with sport struts or just get some OEM type and call it a day...had no complaints with stock struts and my HR sports, but 70K miles on them now and I can tell the car seems to be more loose on bumps and dips, but not leaking yet...they dont have to leak in order to be bad..they wear out over time regardless.
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I hear ya, I know everyone has a different opinion on different set ups. I plan on some eibachs pro kit, and figured oem shocks would work fine, im not looking to race my tl just dnt want to lose the ride.
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Originally Posted by DaveS221
both me and soria got our new setup's for 500 plus/minus a buck or 2. tokico hp's with h&r sports!! FTW
Where did you purchase your setup from? Thanks in advance.
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