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Old 01-18-2005, 11:52 AM
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I have a question

IF i get springs do i need coilovers or what are they? do i also need shocks or all i would need are springs? Im a noob in the suspension kit world please help
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Here's a quick answer though you should try teh search function as I am sure this topic has been covered. Or at least check out some manufacturer websites to know exactly what the differnce betyween shocks springs and coilovers are.

Springs: Will lower you car, increase rise stiffness and you can use the stock shocks. You can just buy springs if you want. Check out comptech

Shocks or struts: Teh springs go over these, they are also called dampeners and they adjust hydrolically up and down druing the ride.

Coilovers: A setup of both shocks and springs which allow for greater customization of ride height and stiffness.
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For suspension you have a few different options:

1) Coilover (Spring and Sleeve Type Setup) = Crap
2) Coilover Setup (Incl. Shocks and Springs) = Best Option
3) Springs Only = Good

The idea of coilovers is that you can adjust your ride height, but if you try and adjust your ride height with the first option with stock shocks you are going to blow your shocks. Yes you can slam your car but your shocks will be in a short time. A true coilover setup, i.e. Tein's, Apex'i, Tanabe, give you shocks and springs mated for each with ride height adjustability. Or you can choose springs that lower your car a set rate and you can buy aftermarket shocks or keep the stock ones. Your stock ones probably will last for a decent period of time assuming they are in good condition and don't have a lot of wear. But if they do, you just cut their life short.

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Old 01-18-2005, 01:29 PM
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Question: If you go for a coilover setup like Tein's...and the shocks dampeners need replacing, do you have to buy a whole new coilover unit? Or can you just replace the dampener?
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
For suspension you have a few different options:

1) Coilover (Spring and Sleeve Type Setup) = Crap
2) Coilover Setup (Incl. Shocks and Springs) = Best Option
3) Springs Only = Good

The idea of coilovers is that you can adjust your ride height, but if you try and adjust your ride height with the first option with stock shocks you are going to blow your shocks. Yes you can slam your car but your shocks will be in a short time. A true coilover setup, i.e. Tein's, Apex'i, Tanabe, give you shocks and springs mated for each with ride height adjustability. Or you can choose springs that lower your car a set rate and you can buy aftermarket shocks or keep the stock ones. Your stock ones probably will last for a decent period of time assuming they are in good condition and don't have a lot of wear. But if they do, you just cut their life short.

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for the best option you listed :Coilover setup what the price range we are looking at with those brands you listed: Tein's, Apexi, Tanabe?
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i think the coilover setup is about 900. if you get springs and then get shocks seperatly your gonna be paying around the same amount if not more (H&R sports and koni yellows). i only got the springs, and now wish i got the coilovers.
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Originally Posted by MikeekiM
Question: If you go for a coilover setup like Tein's...and the shocks dampeners need replacing, do you have to buy a whole new coilover unit? Or can you just replace the dampener?
I am not certain about the Apexis/Tanabes, but the TEIN unit allows you to send the shocks back to TEIN for a refill for like $100-$200. So this way the setup isnt useless once the shocks blow.

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Originally Posted by TL260power
for the best option you listed :Coilover setup what the price range we are looking at with those brands you listed: Tein's, Apexi, Tanabe?
To be honest I think the only company that actually offers a coilover setup for our cars is TEIN. TEIN Basics run $750 MSRP and Super Streets run $1000 MSRP.

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i got my Apexi Coilovers brand new for 450 shipped

it's for accord but it fits our car and it's great too
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Originally Posted by samkws
i got my Apexi Coilovers brand new for 450 shipped

it's for accord but it fits our car and it's great too
u selling?
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700 shipped to your door
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Originally Posted by samkws
700 shipped to your door
didnt u get it for 450 shipped?
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Originally Posted by TL260power
didnt u get it for 450 shipped?
now you can't get such a gd deal

and i paid more to import it into canada...i roughtly paid 600 in total coz of the customs and duty

they lowest prcie you can find is about 750 shipped elsewhere, some places are 900

i am j/k anyways, i don't want to rip you off and i am not selling it~

if i see another GB i will let you know, but i can't give out the details here since it's not on this forum

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Originally Posted by MikeekiM
Question: If you go for a coilover setup like Tein's...and the shocks dampeners need replacing, do you have to buy a whole new coilover unit? Or can you just replace the dampener?
A set of coilovers has (springs & shocks) include.....
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Originally Posted by TL260power
IF i get springs do i need coilovers or what are they? do i also need shocks or all i would need are springs? Im a noob in the suspension kit world please help
you should go for Tein's.....Tein Basic or Tein SS.....or if u have money,you can go for with EDFC....

i m using Tein Basic Damper now.....and Tein's really give you a comfort ride man
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
A set of coilovers has (springs & shocks) include.....
Yes, I realize that... My question was what if you go ahead and buy the set of coilovers...then...years down the road, your dampeners need replacing...

I believe someone already answered my question in a previous post... Tein apparently allows you to refill the gas shock at a nominal cost...
Old 01-21-2005, 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
you should go for Tein's.....Tein Basic or Tein SS.....or if u have money,you can go for with EDFC....

i m using Tein Basic Damper now.....and Tein's really give you a comfort ride man

how much are the tein basic or ss? and where can i get it?
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Originally Posted by TL260power
how much are the tein basic or ss? and where can i get it?
i got it from a car shop.......and my Tein Basic is around $1000can.....plus installion
SS is more $400 from the Basic.....

if you only for daily n city driving.....Basic is much enough for you man

or u can buy from the net too.....its cheaper....but i don't think to buy in the net...
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
i got it from a car shop.......and my Tein Basic is around $1000can.....plus installion
SS is more $400 from the Basic.....

if you only for daily n city driving.....Basic is much enough for you man

or u can buy from the net too.....its cheaper....but i don't think to buy in the net...

basically im a daily and city driving and want a more smoother ride but still some firm in it for a nice take off.. Dont know if you understand..lol
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Originally Posted by TL260power
basically im a daily and city driving and want a more smoother ride but still some firm in it for a nice take off.. Dont know if you understand..lol
Tein SS is 850 shipped the lowest

don't think you would need that much since it's just for daily driving

try the Apexi or Tein Basic
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Originally Posted by samkws
Tein SS is 850 shipped the lowest

don't think you would need that much since it's just for daily driving

try the Apexi or Tein Basic
sounds good.. i rather spend a little more and just change all than just the springs...

so again just to make sure coilovers have springs and shocks inc.?
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Originally Posted by TL260power
sounds good.. i rather spend a little more and just change all than just the springs...

so again just to make sure coilovers have springs and shocks inc.?
exactly......4 springs n 4 shocks man.....get the Tein Basic man...
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
exactly......4 springs n 4 shocks man.....get the Tein Basic man...
wheres the best place to get it for a good price?
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Originally Posted by MikeekiM
Yes, I realize that... My question was what if you go ahead and buy the set of coilovers...then...years down the road, your dampeners need replacing...

I believe someone already answered my question in a previous post... Tein apparently allows you to refill the gas shock at a nominal cost...
so did you lower your TL?
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Originally Posted by TL260power
how much are the tein basic or ss? and where can i get it?
let see if you want to order it on the net or from your local car's shop.......if you order it on the net....its MORE cheaper....its up to you man
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Originally Posted by TL260power
wheres the best place to get it for a good price?
where do you live first?......n you can buy it on the net too...
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
so did you lower your TL?



Oh yea!

Got the H&R Sports drop on Wednesday...

Still getting used to the ride... The handling is definitely improved...and in fact, it makes you realize how poor the stock tires are... The lowered suspension allows you to push the limits a bit more, and the tires are always giving out...

Again, I am still getting used to the harsher ride... Many report that there is almost no change...just a little bit harsher... But my opinion is that it is quite a bit harsher... I used to have an Integra with a very harsh ride (harsher than the TL H&R drop), and the car handled like a dream... But since this is a TL, and has an expectation of "luxury", it may be a tad too harsh...

The jury is still out for me... I am no stranger to harsh rides... I just need a little more time to feel things out...

But I must say... The OEM kit and the H&R drop combination is definitely an eye pleaser!!!

Plus, I get to update my sig
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Originally Posted by MikeekiM
Oh yea!

Got the H&R Sports drop on Wednesday...

Still getting used to the ride... The handling is definitely improved...and in fact, it makes you realize how poor the stock tires are... The lowered suspension allows you to push the limits a bit more, and the tires are always giving out...

Again, I am still getting used to the harsher ride... Many report that there is almost no change...just a little bit harsher... But my opinion is that it is quite a bit harsher... I used to have an Integra with a very harsh ride (harsher than the TL H&R drop), and the car handled like a dream... But since this is a TL, and has an expectation of "luxury", it may be a tad too harsh...

The jury is still out for me... I am no stranger to harsh rides... I just need a little more time to feel things out...

But I must say... The OEM kit and the H&R drop combination is definitely an eye pleaser!!!

Plus, I get to update my sig
hey...yeah.....our stock tires r sucks......

oh....cool.....drop by H&R sports??....1'5 inches?.....or lower than that?

i drop by Tein S-Tech before....but now i set up a Tein Basic Coliovers in last week....haha...
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Originally Posted by Bread-A Spec
hey...yeah.....our stock tires r sucks......

oh....cool.....drop by H&R sports??....1'5 inches?.....or lower than that?

i drop by Tein S-Tech before....but now i set up a Tein Basic Coliovers in last week....haha...
Yup the oem michilins suck..i just got a nail in my tire...damn.....
I had to put on my spare tire cuz it started leaking real fast...

Now i gotta have it patched=(

I woner how much acura is gonna charge me for a patch job????????????/

I'm gonna be mad if they over charge me....I'm under warranty btw
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Yup the oem michilins suck..i just got a nail in my tire...damn.....
I had to put on my spare tire cuz it started leaking real fast...

Now i gotta have it patched=(

I woner how much acura is gonna charge me for a patch job????????????/

I'm gonna be mad if they over charge me....I'm under warranty btw
free if under warrenty
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Originally Posted by Excelerate
To be honest I think the only company that actually offers a coilover setup for our cars is TEIN. TEIN Basics run $750 MSRP and Super Streets run $1000 MSRP.

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Ha Ha...Are you kidding me?!? If the company makes springs or coilovers they make a variant for the tl. Don't forget that 98-02 Accord suspension is the same thing so theres a ton more options there too. Not to flame Tein's by any means just letting you know there's a ton of other options out there. Im riding on a Hayame full coilover setup and I love it. Obviously not a stock ride but extremely smooth for how low my car is.
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