I had Tein-h springs installed 2 days ago and the front looks alot higher than the back. Has anyone with these spring notice this at first or do I have a problem. I dont know how to post pics but I could squeeze 3 fingers in the front and 1 in the back and the drop was 1.5f - 1.0r. I also have Tokico blues on them. Any input would be helpful. Thanks

 

springs need to settle still if they arenew

 

I do understand that. Maybe I worded it wrong but should the back settle before the front? That much?

 

Jack it up and take off the wheels to inspect the struts. They might not be seated all the way into the fork.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, then take it back to the shop and ask them. I had this problem with the H&R Sports and didn't realize it until I took them out to install the Tein SS. The struts weren't seated all the way into the fork, so it was sitting about half an inch higher than it should have in the front.

And yes, like Phrosttz0 said, they need to settle. Give it a few days and see what happens. But if there's a big difference from front to back, then I think it could be the strut/fork issue, methinks.

 

Your right there not seated al the way to the lip on them. Good call thank you.

 

No problem.

 

Here's the deal he said that there is only one way they go in on the knouckle. He said he could drill new hole to compensate or notch them. What do you think.

 

Dont drill a hole. Yes there is only 1 way it can go in, BUT if its not all the way in it will not sit right. Take a pic and show us

 

Or you might just have the same dilemma like everyone else here with the H-Techs. The front will be higher than expected, at least with H-Techs installed on Type-S TLs. I've seen this on several S's, but on one non-S, the drop looked about right.

I'm curious, do you have a Type-S or no? If you don't, I'd like to see pics of the drop to verify my assumption that Tein really only intended for these springs to be installed on the non Type-S models (yet marketed it for all 99-03 TLs since they all "fit").

 

i have been noticing that too, but is the nose of the type s lighter or something? how is that possible is what i dont understand. tein with the uneven, H&R oe with the sag, and not enough people with tanabe on type s to see pictures of.
i am confused as to which less then 2" drop to get if i want it to be even with subs and ride smooth on a TL-S...

and without having to mess with camber to boot!

 

i'm in the same boat as you, trying to figure all this out

 

well i ruled one out, the OEs are not quite enough of a drop to pay for all the labor and struts. and the sag/uneveness can be seen over and over on this board(although it is not too too bad). i see good things with the tien but never really on a TLS. and im not sure if i have ever even seen the tanabes on a TLS, but otherwise look great. h.tech or the nf210 is where i stand. i just need that evidence. i really want to avoid camber kits at all costs. atleast i know ill get tokico blue, i had them on my last car and loved them.

 

i agree with the sag and have ruled them out, i was going to go with h-techs but keep seeing issues with those too as stated in this thread. So depending on the outcome or other tl-s with that set up can prove a nice even look, i'll end up going with illuminas and h-techs, or if the tiens still don't play nice, i might take a chance and go with the eibachs and bilsteins, since i really like the look of the drop the stechs/eibachs give. Since i drive careful as it is when it comes to holes bumps and what not now, it probably won't be that big of an issue. So hopefuly some more members with a h-tech and tl-s can step up with some good pics either way

 

The Type-S was advertised as having a sport-tuned suspension with stiffer shocks among other changes. I wasn't sure if the same springs were used throughout the generation, so I looked up the part numbers...
(text in red denotes updates or changes between the previous section)

'99-'01 3.2TL
51401-S0K-A02 SPRING, FR.
52441-S0K-A01 SPRING, RR.
51605-S0K-A04 S/ABS UNIT, R. FR. (STRUT)
51606-S0K-A03 S/ABS UNIT, L. FR. (STRUT)
51606-S0K-A01 SHOCK ABSORBER UNIT. ('99 3.2TL only) (optional FR STRUT?)
52611-S0K-A02 S/ABS UNIT, RR. (STRUT)

'02-'03 3.2TL Base
51401-S0K-A12 SPRING, FR. updated
52441-S0K-A02 SPRING, RR. updated
51605-S0K-A04 S/ABS UNIT, R. FR. (STRUT)
51606-S0K-A03 S/ABS UNIT, L. FR. (STRUT)
52611-S0K-A02 S/ABS UNIT, RR. (STRUT)

'02-'03 3.2TL Type-S
51401-S3M-A02 SPRING, FR. changed
52441-S0K-A51 SPRING, RR. changed
51605-S0K-A51 S/ABS UNIT, R. FR. (STRUT) changed
51606-S0K-A51 S/ABS UNIT, L. FR. (STRUT) changed
52611-S0K-A51 S/ABS UNIT, RR. (STRUT) changed

The springs are different between the base and Type-S models. The springs are even updated from the '99-'01 TL (maybe the '02-'03 TL got heavier).

If the differences between the springs throughout the '99-'03 range are limited to just spring rates, then I can see why Tein would have no problem issuing H-Tech's to all 2nd gen TLs. But if the springs have different numbers of coils for more/less travel or the struts have varying spring seat heights, then the one-size-fits-all H-Tech would not be able to produce a satisfactory 1.5"F - 1.0"R drop for all 2nd gen TLs.

 

Hmmm....I have an '00 TL-P and I was thinking about getting the Teins, but now I'm not sure.

Derek

 

No worrie's my shocks in front were not seated in the knuckle all the way. There was a 1/2 inch to spare which would make it look right.

 

impressive...

 

any pics?

 

Guys, check this thread out. Sounds like ProvidenceLeaf is having the exact same problems (Pics included in link):

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134638

 

Do you guys even research before you buy anything? Tein H-Techs lower the car 1.2" front AND back. It's not 1.5 front and 1.0 rear. The car was dropped evenly, just as the springs were supposed to do.

 

FRONT
Approx. Height Adjust Range
mm inch Max/Min(mm/inch)
-38 -1.5 -

REAR
Approx. Height Adjust Range
mm inch Max/Min(mm/inch)
-26 -1.02


um i dunno about that

 

oh yeah here is your reference
http://www.tein.com/ti/h94-ua5.html

 

I sware they must have changed it. It used to be 1.2" front and rear. Now, Tein doesn't even list the H-Tech for the CL, which they used to have listed.

 

I don't know where you got your numbers from but it clearly states on the TEIN website and every parts website that I have visited -1.5 Front/ -1.0 Rear

So before you start ripping people YOU SHOULD DO YOUR RESEARCH!

 

you're right, but if you go measure, I bet it's around 1.2" front and back. Looks like Tein pulled a fast one on you guys. That sucks. I have the Tein H-Techs and they had them listed on the website for the CL and TL 1.2" front and rear.

 

funny thing was i was on that page on the tein site when you posted that phi. i was looking for the spring rate.

 

Unfortunately it's not. I did measure from the stock height and it's about -1.2 Front and -2.0 Rear. That is why this is so frustrating for me. Look at my thread pics and you will see.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134638

 

when you start that poll, have the people with type S have pics. thats all i wish i could any sucess storys with. damn this type s!

 

Phipark, you gotta love a hypocrite, especially when they are WRONG!

Sounds like courtroom drama..."Your honor, I sware it used to be different! Please, please, YOU GOTTA BELIEVE ME!!!"

...Looks like you pulled a fast one on yourself, as Tein can never claim what you state. How so you say? Anyone here heard of the WayBackMachine? Put simply, you can view web pages as they were back in the day. Well, let's see what Tein's H-Tech page looked like back then...

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://...com/htech.html

Go ahead, pick a page, any page...

2003
http://web.archive.org/web/200312040...com/htech.html

2004
http://web.archive.org/web/200402171...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200404111...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200406041...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200406302...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200410102...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200410300...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200411140...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200411160...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200411240...com/htech.html

2005
http://web.archive.org/web/200502150...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200503052...com/htech.html
http://web.archive.org/web/200503100...com/htech.html

From what I've seen, Tein never lists the CL and TL having the same drop. And as far as I'm concerned, you don't have any valuable input to this thread. Hey it's cool, we all needed the entertainment.