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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Hi All,

I had the stupid code p0420. So I seafoamed, cleaned the EGR port both per the DYI's and changed the EGR and bank 1 O2 sensor in that order over the last 2 weeks. The 02 had some serious carbon on it so I changed it 3 days ago (about 45 miles). The check engine light came on again today with the same code. Should I change the second 02 sensor? Any suggestions?

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Old Nov 6, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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420 is usually the rear 02 or the cat. What 02 did you buy? one from the dealer or one from a parts store?
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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I bought a bosch from the autoparts store. Is there a way to test the cat?
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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Bosch. Many have had issues with those in the past. But like i said before, that code is usually the rear O2 or the cat. There isnt a way you can test the cat, but muffler shops usually can.
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Old Nov 7, 2008 | 04:46 PM
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Try running a can of bg44k in a quarter tank of gas. Do some wide open throttle accelerations and a highway cruise around 2000 rpm for 15 - 20 minutes. {use d4 if nec} You might have to repeat this process, but if two times don't do it, I don't think more will help.
As fasttyms said, convertors and o2 sensors are typical culprits. If you have to have it diagnosed, make it clear you expect a guarantee if the light comes back on. The reason I say this is that aftermarket catalytic convertors are not 100% on this. If you can get one that is certified for sale in california, you get a better guarantee, and a better probability of keeping the light out. Probably the cheapest "fix" that's close to 100% is to use a spark plug non-fouler on the rear o2 sensor.[pretty sure it's illegal, but you'd smog just fine if no visual inspection]
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 02:19 PM
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OK. So I had the check engine reset. I drove for about 100 miles and the car passed inspection. The only thing I did was run a full tank of shell v-power.

Thanks for all your help
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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just to let you know i used a bosch o2 sensor and it was crap so i choked the money and bought one from the dealer. it hurts a little but its alot better
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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Bosch O2 sensors

Bosch usually, at least use to, makes good stuff, but something about their O2 sensors. I use to have a Dodge Daytona and those cars also had problems with Bosch O2 sensors.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GRK
Hi All,

I had the stupid code p0420. So I seafoamed, cleaned the EGR port both per the DYI's and changed the EGR and bank 1 O2 sensor in that order over the last 2 weeks. The 02 had some serious carbon on it so I changed it 3 days ago (about 45 miles). The check engine light came on again today with the same code. Should I change the second 02 sensor? Any suggestions?

Thanks
Yes. Your code P0420 is specific to your catalytic converter efficiency dropping below threshold. Why would you look anywhere else? I fix these regularly by.....replacing the catalytic converter.
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