DIY: Fix banging, clattering wipers. Acura TL

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Old May 16, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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DIY: Fix banging, clattering wipers. Acura TL

The G2 TL my brother gave me had horrendously loud wipers.
After checking everything out, I was able to piece together the fix.
Some of the information, however,was vague to the uninitiated, and many photo links were broke.

So, in the interest of the next novice who comes along, I've put together an easy-to-understand DIY.
In fact, one does not need to understand English to figure it out.
Please keep this in mind if my descriptions and photos seem simplistic.

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The Problem:
Wiper arms bang the hood, wipers bang the front cowling. General racket which one cannot seem to adjust away. The wiper system has control arms that convert the electric drive motor into back-and-forth motion. There are two control arms, an upper and a lower, each with plastic, grease-filled sockets at either end, that attach to ball fittings among the linkage. One socket in particular seems to break with wear and abuse, the upper arm driver's side.
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The required items: One control arm, two dust seals:
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Step 1: Find a 14mm wrench
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Step 2: Remove cowling
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Step 3: Replace the control rods
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The old ones will pop off; you might want to use a little leverage, but the arms are not attached by nuts, bolts, or screws. The new ones might pop on by hand, but I eased them on with ChannelLoks, after replacing the dust seals. I replaced both arms and all four dust seals, but if doing it again, I'd probably only order the shorter, upper arm with two dust seals. The only broken socket was on this arm, and other members have commented upon the same findings. On the following diagram, the upper arm, #11, is 76540-S0K-A01, and the two dust seals, #9, are 76524-SE0-013. Even if paying list price, they'll only set you back about $30.

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Old May 16, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Great DIY!

Thanks for contributing!
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 01:04 PM
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I replaced both arms and all four dust seals, but if doing it again, I'd probably only order the shorter, upper arm with two dust seals. The only broken socket was on this arm, and other members have commented upon the same findings. On the following diagram, the upper arm, #11, is 76540-S0K-A01, and the two dust seals, #9, are 76524-SE0-013. Even if paying list price, they'll only set you back about $30.


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Hi, thank you for the excellent walkthrough; this is very helpful!

Sorry for bumping an old thread, but I had one question. I'm probably going to go ahead and do both control arms... Really just to be 100% sure it's all fixed, make sure I only have to tear everything apart once, and won't have to pay double the shipping charge if I possibly need to order more parts later.

So if I'm doing both, what exact parts do I need? I can't tell which dust seals I need.... 4 total? I'm guessing I need to order:

- QTY 1 x upper control bar #11
- QTY 1 x lower control bar #12
- QTY 3 x dust cover #9
- QTY 1 x dust cover #8

But wasn't sure if it was actually 4 x the #9 dust covers. Thank you!
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:56 PM
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Yup, four seals. One of the four is not like the others, on my 2000 TL.

I'd also install new wiper arms [if existing are original], and blades.

#'s 14, 15, 16, 18.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 03:23 AM
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call one of our sponsoring vendor dealers, they can walk you thru the right parts
they do this for a living- translate your need into correct parts for the job
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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I placed my order thru acuraoemparts, online, and had the parts within a few days.
Checking my TL work diary, I've found reference of control arms, boots, and oem blades.
Didn't replace the wiper arms [that was another car, the retired '94 850T]

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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 02:23 PM
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Both my wipers have a lot of slop in them now; I can grab one and move it in a 3" arc and it moves the other along with it. One my wife's MDX, I can't really move the wipers at all by hand.

Does this fit the OP's original description or was only one wiper arm affected?
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 03:34 PM
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For what it's worth, I just did my daughters car; only the driver arm was loose and it only needed one of the rods.
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Old Oct 17, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Apparently, just one of the four plastic joint connectors typically fails.
The end of the control arm that attaches to the wiper motor takes all the stress.
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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i have the same problem...my wipers goes banging all over the place if i speed up...if i go 40 to 42mph it was normal...but if i speed up the wipers goes faster...it's like they wanna race me or something..lol! thanks for sharing this..ill do mine when i get a chance.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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I've looked through all these wiper threads, and I think I need to just replace #11, but I wanted to see if someone else with my problem fixed it with just that part.

The only problem I'm having are the wipers not parking in the right place (about 8-10 inches up from the bottom).

There is a little play (about an inch) when the wipers are off, and the #11 moves a little when I checked everything out under the cowl cover, but it's not by very much and it doesn't look broken.

I also noticed the wiper arms, and where they connect, look about half striped...so I am considering replacing #10, #14 and #15 too. I just don't want to replace those parts if they aren't causing the problem...
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Correct. One of the plastic sockets on #11, the upper arm, cracks apart where it connects to the drive linkage.
As far as the splines on the wiper arms go, they may look chewed up, but if they tighten up, that'd be your call.
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Old Oct 31, 2011 | 08:24 PM
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sticky this thread please?
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jblessing
I've looked through all these wiper threads, and I think I need to just replace #11, but I wanted to see if someone else with my problem fixed it with just that part.

The only problem I'm having are the wipers not parking in the right place (about 8-10 inches up from the bottom).

There is a little play (about an inch) when the wipers are off, and the #11 moves a little when I checked everything out under the cowl cover, but it's not by very much and it doesn't look broken.

I also noticed the wiper arms, and where they connect, look about half striped...so I am considering replacing #10, #14 and #15 too. I just don't want to replace those parts if they aren't causing the problem...
Correct, all you need is #11. I fixed mine last week. The ball-socket that connects directly to the motor crank is the one that broke on me.
With that one broken, both wipers will not always wipe the full travel or park where they are supposed to. There will be a lot of play when you move an arm, and it will also cause the other arm to move likewise (in tandem).

** I second added this thread to the DIY sticky **
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Old Nov 1, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Severin

** I second added this thread to the DIY sticky **
Interesting point I noticed.
If you google banging wipers acura tl, this thread is the first hit.
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Old Nov 4, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by J32TLS
i have the same problem...my wipers goes banging all over the place if i speed up...if i go 40 to 42mph it was normal...but if i speed up the wipers goes faster...it's like they wanna race me or something..lol! thanks for sharing this..ill do mine when i get a chance.
They are supposed to speed up as you go faster. these are designed to accelerate with the car. This helps especially at freeway speeds. I like the feature myself.
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 07:57 PM
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Does anyone know what the White Cap on example 2 is called? Mine cracked as i was pulling out the whole wiper components. I really need to get it replaced. Thanks
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Old Apr 19, 2012 | 09:33 PM
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I've heard that there are universal plastic ball joints you can press into place on the control arm.

On our cars, the dealer only sells them attached to the control arm.
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Old Apr 29, 2012 | 11:19 PM
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How were you able to remove the wiper arms?
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AcuraTL99
How were you able to remove the wiper arms?
The arms themselves? 14mm wrench, and the arm pops off the splined bolt.
It might be tight from being on there 12 years. The connection is tapered; wiggling it helps.

The control arms, the rods themselves? My largest screwdriver between
the socket and the connection point, and a little twist. Pops right off.
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Old Apr 30, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sperry
The arms themselves? 14mm wrench, and the arm pops off the splined bolt.
It might be tight from being on there 12 years. The connection is tapered; wiggling it helps.

The control arms, the rods themselves? My largest screwdriver between
the socket and the connection point, and a little twist. Pops right off.
Cool thanks, and for the cowl, there are two clips on the side near the fender right?
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Guys:

Thanks for the detail. My Acura 1999 TL has the same problem. Banging on both sides, and it was quite frustrating driving it for 10 hours yesterday in the rain, that I finally decided to replace this.

Both wiper blades move around 3 inches..... My question is should I replace both Part 11 and Part 12 above or just 11. Is 12 generally not worn out that much.
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Old Jun 8, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by acura1999tl
Guys:

Thanks for the detail. My Acura 1999 TL has the same problem. Banging on both sides, and it was quite frustrating driving it for 10 hours yesterday in the rain, that I finally decided to replace this.

Both wiper blades move around 3 inches..... My question is should I replace both Part 11 and Part 12 above or just 11. Is 12 generally not worn out that much.
On my '00 TL it was just #11 (drivers side) that was broken. However, I had bought #12 and installed it anyway, but it didn't need to be replaced.
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Hello,
I have a 1998 3.2 TL with same exact problem as original 2010 post. Parts diagram is a little different. Looks like I would need part #10 for left link rod (I assume this is upper arm driver side similar to #11 noted repeatedly above)? Also, cannot order separate dust cover without whole wiper assembly. Do you think I can repair the problem by only ordering left link rod #10 on 1998 part diagram?
Thank you for your help.
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Old Jan 5, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Welcome Secondempire !!!
IMO, if the basic problem that you are experiencing is similar in nature to the original post.....just compare the diagrams and part # required to fix your '98 TL. The individual components of the wiper motor should serve the same function as our newer models, so look at your old worn out part and locate the associated '98 part # to fix your wiper lingage.
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Thank god this was bumped. Can we have the moderators please link this onto the DIY page? I made a thread a while ago asking about this problem.
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Yikes
Thank god this was bumped. Can we have the moderators please link this onto the DIY page? I made a thread a while ago asking about this problem.
Sticky or not, the #1 google search result for banging clattering wipers tl brings up this thread.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 02:56 PM
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What is the white plastic thing in example 2 called? I've been trying to order one and cannot find it anywhere!! Where can I order it from?
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 05:46 PM
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The white teflon bushings are not available separately.
The control rod which connects to the wiper motor's mechanism have the bushing pressed on
and are not replaceable. The rod assembly isn't that expensive or hard to replace.
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Old Mar 9, 2014 | 08:25 PM
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ok thank you!
Also, is the #11 rod for the passenger side wiper, or the drivers side? I need to replace my drivers side rod and am just making sure Im getting the right one.
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Originally Posted by Sperry
I'd probably only order the shorter, upper arm with two dust seals. The only broken socket was on this arm, and other members have commented upon the same findings. On the following diagram, the upper arm, #11, is 76540-S0K-A01, and the two dust seals, #9, are 76524-SE0-013. Even if paying list price, they'll only set you back about $30.
Still, it's been so long since I did this job, picking the brain of the service manager isn't a bad idea.
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Old Oct 18, 2014 | 04:00 PM
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Great post Sperry! Just made the exact repair on my 99 TL with 235K. Your photos and part numbers were spot on. Based upon reading the thread, I only replaced the upper arm unit and the two rubber dust boots. The wiper mechanism works great now without any slapping – thanks again.
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Old Oct 21, 2014 | 03:02 PM
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Thanks for the write-up! My wipers were going nuts--slamming against the cowl AND going off the side past the windshield. I had a matching parts car and took it from there, so I just kept whichever dust seals looked the best. Took the control arm off the car that had working wipers, and now they work perfectly! The plastic sockets were in worse shape than your photos before I replaced them.
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 01:06 PM
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Thanks for this, I've been dealing with them banging on the hood for the last few months and finally got to looking into it. I ordered the driver side arm and 2 seals today.
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Old Apr 6, 2017 | 09:11 AM
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Thanks for this. I ordered the upper arm and the 2 seals. Fixed it in about 15 minutes and worked like a charm. Another situation where a forum saves me headache and labor costs!
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Old Apr 10, 2017 | 08:05 PM
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Just order #11 and 4 dust shields. Thanks for write up.
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Just order #11 and 4 dust shields. Thanks for write up.
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Old Jul 1, 2017 | 12:18 PM
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I'm not sure how to edit the original post, but since Photobucket went funky, I hosted them on AmericanToolbox.

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Old Mar 7, 2018 | 11:37 AM
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Someone please add this to the DIY section. I completed this one last week and only replaced the top bar and the rubber seals. Anyone looking to complete the DIY might also pick up the 3 plastic clips that hold the cowling down as more then likely the plastic will already be cracked as mine were.
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Someone please add this to the DIY section. I completed this one last week and only replaced the top bar and the rubber seals. Anyone looking to complete the DIY might also pick up the 3 plastic clips that hold the cowling down as more then likely the plastic will already be cracked as mine were.
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