HairyMonkey019

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After 4 months of not driving her, she is finally getting the swap.

Short story:
Broke oil pan
Ran car with no oil for a mile
Got oil pan and oil pump replaced(didn't circulate oil, you'll see why later on hopefully)
Decided to do a full swap

I broke my oil pan a few miles from home. From So Cal, I've been to Pismo, Sacramento/Davis, Stockton, San Diego(many times), Vegas, all over LA and have never busted my oil pan.
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Before anyone asks, they are 18" wheels.
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Videos were recorded in 4K w/ Samsung Galaxy S6

Swap should be done by Sunday and back to me Monday. That's if everything goes as planned.

SykVSyx

You are using the MDX engine?

What tranny are you going with?

gnuts

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get some headers and light weight pulley on the J35 before it goes in!
+1 for what tranny?

HairyMonkey019

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Lol already had underdrive lightweight crank pulley and both unorthodox Racing accessory pulleys on the j32a2, they will be going on the j35. Headers and xlr8 mounts are in the trunk waiting to be installed. Also thinking of the 09 tl shawd intake manifold, but later on down the road, or a custom one.

I will be using my rebuilt automatic transmission. I rebuilt it literally 2 weeks prior to busting my oil pan. That's why there is green paint on the bolts of the trans.

And does anyone know if I can just space the shit out of my hood to keep the mdx spacer on? I know I need to cut the skeleton of the hood a bit, but has anyone had "perfect" clearance?

Karanx7

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Swap the J32A2 cams into the J35.

Don't use the spacer, it will cost you top end power.

gnuts

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you can mill the spacer down, but you don't really need the bump in torque from it since you're putting in the 3.5.

Skirmich

Remember dude... Do the Timing belt job before installing the new engine in... Don't trust the posted mileage, play it safe.

HairyMonkey019

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Already told my mechanic to swap cams
I will pretty much test out the spacer and see if I like it on or off.

I know, but I just wanted to know how much "work" needs to be done to make it fit. I don't really want to send it out to be milled when I can sell it and buy the p2r spacer, which I should probably research the power difference between those two... unless you know?

I know, I'm swapping my timing belt(was done a little under 2 years ago), underdrive pulley, lightweight AC+PS pulleys, cams, and I think that's about it. Pretty much everything will be "new", I even did both axles a month before blowing my motor.


Update: Mechanic got really sick over the weekend, but should be done around the beginning of next week.

teh CL

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I ran the IM spacer on my old J35A3 swap. Just used spacers to prop the hood, no big deal.

Enjoy the TQ

SykVSyx

I never knew the TL tranny would bolt up to the MDX engine, that's new.

When I did the J35 swap in my Accord, I went with an Oddy tranny.

Plan to do the same thing when I do the J35 swap in my A Spec.

Looks like you have everything planned out though, should be a nice upgrade from the stock engine.

Maybe I haven't researched enough, but, can the CL Type S pistons be used on the J35, and if so, is there any benefit?

I plan to do some other performance upgrades once the swap is done. It was the plan for the Accord, but now, it looks like the TL is going get the full make over.

OP, I spaced the hood on the Accord, then ended up cutting the hood framing to close the hood properly.

Skirmich

IMHO you dont need that spacer Monkey... The MDX need it to shift the torque band at lower RPM to move its weight but in the TL the 3.5L is already overkill, Mill the spacer or remove it altogether.. The headers will make up in extreme for the spacer.

About the pistons AFAIK they are both the same pistons so there is no gain on swapping them. The heads in the J32A2 are better.. I would swap the entire J32A2 Head not just the Cam.

HairyMonkey019

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So after being sick, my mechanic is now currently stuck on the crankshaft pulley bolt. (Snapped multiple tools, lol) and his impact wrench w/150psi doesn't even come close to budging it.

Here are some pictures to entertain you guys. BTW the J35 has less than 30,000 miles on it, bought from C&T Japanese Engine

J35 is currently bolted up to the trans, not much to do at this point until the bolt is off. Just need to swap cams, belts, pulleys, water pump, and tensioner. I think that's about it.

Btw what's the real difference between the J35 cams and J32 cams, measurements and all?

J35




J32 bare at this point

HairyMonkey019

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This just in:


Everything swapped over. Drops in tomorrow night.

gnuts

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nice! I don't know the measurement differences, but the J32A2 cams have higher lift & duration for more top end power. In for results/review!

SykVSyx

Not sure, but I think I have read that it depends on what you want out of the engine, so, for top end power, swap in the J32 parts, but for low end, leave the engine as is.

I could be wrong, but I am sure someone can confirm.

gnuts

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the 3.5 gives you the torque, but those motors were never meant to rev high. That's why you drop in the J32A2 cams and it's more like a J35 type S. You won't lose low end by putting in the type S cams, the 3.5 alone adds gobs of torque.

Skirmich

Its gonna be a MONSTER! I swear that if my J32 ever drops the ball I'm going with this exact swap..

SykVSyx

Well then, looks like that is the route I will be going with my swap as well.

Just sucks that those parts are like finding a needle in a haystack here, in Ontario.

SykVSyx

Forgot to ask, is there a difference between the TL Type S cams and the CL Type S cams?

Also, what else needs to be swapped in when the cams are swapped?

gnuts

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no difference in cams. They have the same engine.

The J35A3 engines are everywhere for cheap even in Ontario. Go on carpart.com. For cams, just find a J32A2 which are also plentiful.

Someone on the CL side is doing this swap and found that the J35A3 heads are different in the cams, exhaust port is 1mm smaller and the springs are the same part number as the J32A1 heads, so likely not at stiff. To do it right, it would be best to swap the whole J32A2 heads on.

SykVSyx

Fortunately, I have a TL Type S A Spec that will have the donor parts for the J35.

Found the J35 engine and the tranny I will use, already, just have to pull the trigger on it.

Appreciate the info, this will actually save me money, since I can use parts from the engine in the car now.

The engine actually runs very well, so, I imagine there will be no issue with the heads, other than changing the gaskets.

OP, don't meant to take over your thread at all, but as you post stuff up, it helps me to make sure I am doing everything the way I need to for my swap!

HairyMonkey019

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Honestly, the info is already here in the forums. I literally just searched swaps and found a grip of info, to a point where it explained all the options and what to swap over. This thread only shows what I did, not what you can do, and is pretty much for me to keep record of my car's life. Plus who else do you know that has as many rare parts as I?

From 240k on the motor to having 30k+new timing belt job, new tranny(less than 2 weeks old), new axles, now to get new coils

On to the fun:



























Haven't driven her yet, but I will soon. Mechanic has to replace shifter cable since he broke it when pulling the motor out lol. Other than that, the motor runs MEAN AF! Currently running on 4 month old 91 octane.

Skirmich

Holy shit hairy did I actually saw an OEM Headunit in your dashboard???

SykVSyx

This thread was helpful, https://acurazine.com/forums/photogr...thread-814638/.

I have to talk to him about his intake, my plan is to do a custom 90mm throttle body, and so, I was thinking 3" piping would be the way to go off of that.

Was also planning to upgrade the injectors as well, but I am impressed with how the 3.5 sounds in your car.

When I had mine in the Accord it sounded great, but I am thinking with the head swap, and some other changes, it should really help pull the potential out of the engine.

teh CL

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Where in Ontario are you?

I have a J35A3 in storage that I could get rid of. It's converted to a true 6 spd motor but that's easily converted back to auto with parts off your J32A2.

Oh, and I also have a set of micro polished J32A2 cams if your interested.. :wink:

jaaaydeeem

How much?????

jaaaydeeem

Maaaaan...So Jealous!!!! I need to stop slacking on my swap... my motor and trans have been sitting in my garage for a year now lol!! Too busy buying all these rare parts!

SykVSyx

Well now, I am just north of you, actually.

How many km's are on the motor?

The cams, not overly picky if they are polished, I was just going to use the ones on the J32a2 I have.

gnuts

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I've crunched numbers a few times on buying a 2nd gen TL-S, Av6 trans, 3.5, throw my s/c on it. I need the room, but I'd miss the 6speed too much.

HairyMonkey019

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lol, of all things to notice. Yes, it is. Never really found the need or want to swap it out, especially since I am not a bass head.

I never wanted to do a swap with my car, but since I blew the motor I just said FUCK IT. Rare parts>swap. You can swap whenever you want, but rare parts are hard to come by. I'll throw pictures of every rare part I have once my package comes in

SykVSyx

Are you in the West End still?

If so, we have to connect once I have this thing up and running.

Haven't seen you or the car since the 1st/2nd CanAm Cruise we did years back.

teh CL

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You definitely would but that's a great idea though, just need to throw in a 6 spd swap as well


Motor has 220ish km. Timing belt, waterpump, tensioner & oil.pump were done not even 15k before I pulled the swap. Also have the 6 spd trans to go along with it if you wanna get serious lol

PM me if your interested.

teh CL

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Cams?

SykVSyx

Thanks for the heads up, I actually found a motor with 130km on it, which I will probably go with, come spring.

You got rid of your UA5?

teh CL

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All good man, I'd let it go cheap but can't go wrong with 130k

Never had a UA5 either

SykVSyx

Been a long day, you have/had a CL.

gnuts

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I'm in Hamilton now to stay. I've thought about selling the CL many times. I cycle to work in the summer and rarely drive it. Plus I have a winter beater, but that's on its last legs. that said I have a bunch of parts to install - eibach rear sway, moog links, rear camber kit and just grabbed some NSX calipers!

SykVSyx

I didn't have a choice with the Accord, it got written off, and I didn't get to pull a bunch of parts off it that I could use on the TL, but, I think the 'separation' was for good reason. So, trying a little different approach with the TL this time around.

What is the difference with the NSX calipers, why not get the RL ones?

gnuts

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they're similar to legend calipers. I didn't want to get new rotors, pads and have clearance issues with my rims if I went with the RL calipers. I can use my current pads and rotors and but have dual pistons and some bling.

02tl-p

So are you going to prop the hood or go no hood due to the intake manifold?