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Old May 2, 2010 | 09:53 PM
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What do you recommend?

Hey all, i recently bought a 02 tl type-s and to begin with i wanted it to last a month or two and sell it to get something better, but i really loved this car so i decided to keep it.
I also decided to do some upgrading on it. I did some reading on here a little and did some things. Like i put a cold air intake in already, and i did a mid muffler delete. I'm also looking into getting some headers soon.
Question would be, what next? what would be an economic, yet noticeable gain hp wise? i know the car isn't a sport car but i'm used to cars with a little more punch to them this has a lot of power, but i want more. Trick is i know the tranny's on them are weak, so what can i do to the car without putting myself in a risk of buying a new tranny 5k miles along the road?
I mean, i don't care if i have to get inside the engine, or bolt it on. What's the most bang for your buck?
Thanks in advance.
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Old May 2, 2010 | 10:30 PM
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if you want performance out of your TL.. do a 6spd swap.. otherwize work on the cosmetic end of the car and just enjoy it.
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Old May 2, 2010 | 11:22 PM
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Headers and pulleys.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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how about a throttle body spacer? I think you will get about 4 hp gain.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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just dont get the underdrive pulley! the one on the car is heave but for a reason. If you get the underdrive pulley your car may vibrate and damage the crank.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Rockstar21
if you want performance out of your TL.. do a 6spd swap.. otherwize work on the cosmetic end of the car and just enjoy it.
Well the thing is, that will cost alot. And i like the automatic tranny, soon as if fails me i will switch to 6 speed. Until then i don't want to invest until i have to!
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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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just dont get the underdrive pulley! the one on the car is heave but for a reason. If you get the underdrive pulley your car may vibrate and damage the crank.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Misinformation.

This isnt a GM or Ford car with a Harmonic balancer. We dont have those so YES you can buy an underdrive pulley WITHOUT damaging the motor.

From UR's site

People are getting their crank pulleys confused with the harmonic dampers found on some domestic V6 & V8 engines. "Harmonic Balancer" is a term used loosely in the automotive industry. Technically, this type of device does not exist. The "balancer" part comes from engines that are externally balanced and have a counterweight cast into the damper. None of the applications we offer use a counterweight as part of the pulley, as these engines are all internally balanced.

The pulleys on most of the new import and smaller domestic engines have an elastomer (rubber ring) incorporated into the pulley making them look similar to a harmonic damper. The elastomer in the OEM pulley serves as an isolator, which is there to suppress noise from the engine accessories; the A/C compressor, P/S pump, and alternator. This is what the manufacturers call NVH (Noise Vibration & Harshness) when referring to noticeable noise and vibration in the passenger compartment. It is important to realize in these applications, the elastomer is inadequate in size and durability to act as an effective torsional damper. If you look at the pulleys on some imports there is no rubber to be found at all

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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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thanks for that info kris, i was wondering about that myself
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Old May 5, 2010 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Misinformation.

This isnt a GM or Ford car with a Harmonic balancer. We dont have those so YES you can buy an underdrive pulley WITHOUT damaging the motor.

From UR's site

People are getting their crank pulleys confused with the harmonic dampers found on some domestic V6 & V8 engines. "Harmonic Balancer" is a term used loosely in the automotive industry. Technically, this type of device does not exist. The "balancer" part comes from engines that are externally balanced and have a counterweight cast into the damper. None of the applications we offer use a counterweight as part of the pulley, as these engines are all internally balanced.

The pulleys on most of the new import and smaller domestic engines have an elastomer (rubber ring) incorporated into the pulley making them look similar to a harmonic damper. The elastomer in the OEM pulley serves as an isolator, which is there to suppress noise from the engine accessories; the A/C compressor, P/S pump, and alternator. This is what the manufacturers call NVH (Noise Vibration & Harshness) when referring to noticeable noise and vibration in the passenger compartment. It is important to realize in these applications, the elastomer is inadequate in size and durability to act as an effective torsional damper. If you look at the pulleys on some imports there is no rubber to be found at all
UR's site? link plz?
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Old May 5, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Xak3op
UR's site? link plz?
http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/
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