when u starting a group buy?
im sure you could get 20 people easily

 

Let's see some interest and we will make it happen.

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nope, the flange on the type-S is larger, my comptech b-pipe didn't fit into the TL-P cat and i had to buy a type-S cat to make it fit, the bolt pattern is smaller

 

but first get a test dyno done to prove the gains for a TL, any product should be specifically tested on the application before u market it and show once you showe me the exact gains that woud be enough convincin for me to buy for sure, until then its an undecided though

 

I forwarded your accusation to the manufacturer and he is asking for the distance between the bolt holes and diameter if it is different.

He said they built their cat on a 01 Type S

 

So ill not fit Tl-P without custom exaust ..

 

well before you get a group buy going you better make sure all the dimensions are correct for each application and dynos are going to help, a sound clip would be even better, if this were a civic forum im sure people would be all over these, but the thought of using a high flow cat brings thought of a loud whiny exhaust tone. So before you try starting a group buy i would get yourself a dyno for each specific application, get the measurements and get a sound clip of the tone. No one wants to make there 4 door automatic luxury sedan into a wanna be ricer.

If everything is right, then i would also be down for the group buy, but until you get those few things down, your not gonna have many people that are willing to purchase such an item.

 

then it only fits a type-S

TL-P WILL NOT FIT for sure

 

Did they make a TL Type S in 01?

 

No your right.. maybe a Cl-S but not a Tl-S ...

 

There was no 3.2TL-S in '01, there was a CL-S. This definitely something I would be in for if everything others have mentioned is taken care of. Anything less, I'm out

1. Dyno for a stock 02-03 TL-S or 01-03 CL-S (TSX dyno means nothing to us)
2. Correct measurements done on a type s and a tl-p, cl-p
3. Soundclip

 

I would be in for this with verified gains and verified fitment on my 02 TL-S

 

im not paying $200 + dyno fees just to find out it does nothing.

 

I bought a random cat took it to my muffler guy he told me not to put it on !reason it smaller than stock and outlet was 2inch on random & on stock outlet 2 1/2 inch . Im sending it back No sale!

 

that fuckin blows.... DAMN..

 

so yours is a type-S??

sounds like that's for teh TL-P only

 

Type-S or Premium? And are you sure he said 2.5 inch stock piping, not 2.25? Just curious.

 

May have been 2.25, But random cat is smaller
I have a TL-S

 

lets keep this one alive, I want to see the outcome

 

since i am on the type-S cat converter now, i cannot use the smaller flange and cannot test the output

wait til they make a type-S high flow cat, but then by the time they make it i will be driving sthelse...

 

This seems interesting...

 

So in summation...?

It seems the dyno results from "Clay" cannot be trusted because a stock CL-S almost runs 205 fwhp...and they said a CL-S with headers and intake ran 205 HP, then they dynoed it again with the high flow cat and it made some gaudy gaines...perhaps too high to be realistic. So basically, we need to get one sent to a forum member who will dyno it personally and then report back.

Also, it seems unclear on what model the thing will actually fit.

And to confirm some statements made earlier in the thread:

Type S piping is 2.25in.
TLP is 2in
Comptech B pipe is 2.5in

And 02 was the first year for Type S, not 01

 

'01 was the first year for a CL Type S.

'02 was the first year for a TL Type S.


I would be interested in a high flow cat if I knew it fit a TL Type S.

 

Thanks bro. My bad

 

Dezod,

Any new info?

 

just run no cat like me ...lol

 

You are not accounting for the different dynos used..The dyno used for the Cat testing was a Mustang dyno, which shows lower results because it accounts for wind resistance and road conditions. The results sound proper if the CL-S was tested on the same Mustang dyno, and theTL-S you speak of (with I/H) dynoed on a regular dyno.

 

Yes the dynos used do make a huge difference. I have had this discussion on the TSX side of the boards. The figures are going to be different if they used a mustand dyno vs a dynojet vs a dynomite vs a dynopak.....

 

So we whant to see before/after dyno on a dynojet with/without sae correction and after if it shows a gain a lot of people will buy those .. (like me) but before that they will not buy this thing..

 

so what's the general consensus about this MOD?

Are we going to be organizing/ participating in a group buy?

Do members get a slight discount on pricing even if there is not enough people to organize an offocial group buy?

I'd like to make this one of my eairly spring MODs, along with.... a suprise...can't say yet.

 

the seller doesn't even know the cat would fit either a TL-P or TL-S, how can he convince us to pay 200 plus dollars to buy from him?

and somebody with a TL-S bought it and found the flange is too small on the TL-S, which it only fits a TL-P, however the seller says it only fits the type-S....

if he really wants to make this happen he better shows us sth or else nobody would trust him

for me i would pass this because the seller will ignore the problem if there's fitment issue and will not back up anything, unless he offers sth that would give us some confidence in him and the product

 

do you want them to deliver the dynos to you by hand?

Come on, I understand covering your ass when purchasing something new, but seriously. There are very few companies that provide before and after dynos for all of their products for EACH of their applications. With that said, asking a vendor of the product to supply the dynos is even less likely to happen.

If we have a couple of our members get special pricing for the cats (being guinea pigsfor our forum), and they choose to dyno, or just give personal opinions. Providing the results are positive, I would be ready to grab one. Asking this vendor to give away a cat so someone here can test it is a little ballzy, and honestly, insulting.

If we really wanted to sticke up a deal with this vendor , I would suggest something along the lines of ...

You recieve the cat at the vendor's cost, providing you supply a recent dyno slip (or haven't changed ANYTHING since last dyno), and you get the car dynoed (who pays depends on the vendor's cost price) at the SAME dyno location, a week or two after the install. Reason for the week or two later is to allow the car to fully adjust the ECU to optimum performance specs.

I don't know this vendor nor do I know if he would consider this deal, I just thought it would be a good compromise to this melodramatic back and forth conversation.

 

Hehe, yeah your right maybe im asking to much lol .. anyway see the result from a member here will be great .. (and check your pm for tails)

 

I'm not so sure the main concern is gains, right now. A lot of people want to know if it will fit first. You can't dyno something that you can't fit.

 

I want to know if the thing will fit a Type-S or not and worry about the gains after I put it on my car, it would be nice just to have and all stainless steel exhaust from the engine block to the exhust tips , maybe there'll be enough interest to get them made if they don't fit (the Type-S)

 

agree
the seller is just ask us to buy and try but didn't even bother to verify the fitment issue after 3 pages long, so i guess it's not that trustworthy

i am a salesman as well and if u want to sell a product, this is not the way to sell it and you are not putting effort into this thing


btw...jeff i saw u last thursday near finch/weston rd. area on the opposite lane...haha, i can spot u easily with your HID fog lights

 

oh well, it was nice for a fleeting moment thinking there is a stainless cat for my car, I guess those of us that want one will have to keep looking



[/QUOTE]btw...jeff i saw u last thursday near finch/weston rd. area on the opposite lane...haha, i can spot u easily with your HID fog lights[/QUOTE]

i thought that was you sam when i saw the Aggresive Anthricite coming at me, my office is about two minutes from there

 

If someone would like to possibly be another test gineau pig, please contact Clay at Random Tech and state your reasons why. Give him pics, measurements and such and he will work with you. We are not the manufacturer of the cat, they are. They are a super easy company to work with and will make stuff happen. PM me if you would like me to set something up. Serious people only.

 

maybe Dezod should do a poll on how many tl type-s owners on this forum would be serious enough to buy one to see if there is enough interest to bother, also I think that Random Tech should do thier own leg-work ie; measuring and templates and such since they are the mfg. i'm sure that they didn't manufactuer all the other cat's based on customer measurements

 

It was done on an 01 CL-S. According to them, the TL share the same cat for the 3.2L motor.