P-TownTL35

Hey guys so i drive an 03 tl-p, and was wondering if i could could replace my current intake manifold for a port and polished one? i know there is a difference from $300 dollars for a tl-p to $800 dollars for a tl-s manifold.. so i was wondering if a PPIM would fit? thanks guys, i just think it would help, i have H/I/E and TBS.

Stephen00TL

Get an 09 intake manifold for about 350$

P-TownTL35

would that fit?? do you mean 09 tl?? if so power increases? i work at a service center so i get parts at cost

fsttyms1

Yes, the 09+tl intake. You will need an adapter for the TB to bolt up to it, but they are available. Then just port match your lower runners to the upper manifold.

P-TownTL35

now are these parts that i can get from napa such as the adapter? im sure i can get the intake manifold... what are the hp gains from this? and my tbs will still fit?

fsttyms1

No, you cant get them from napa. Get the adapter from the link below.
More than a cold air intake (which you should run as well. Most saw the best gains from a 4") You could use your tl-p tb, but you would be better off running the type-s tb, or even better the BLOX 76mm tb.

fsttyms1

I also recommend using the search button on this. You will find and get answers much faster

MilwaukeeDave

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Supposedly the 09 intake is lighter, stays cooler, and is a little shorter from what I've read about it. I'm just curious to know if its shorter by enough that you can install MDX spacer and not cut the hood.

P-TownTL35

https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/port-polished-intake-manifold-878611/

this is what i was thinking...

Stephen00TL

no it wont fit even with the mdx spacer. also it is half the weight, made out of magnesium alloy so it doesnt get as hot, and it is the largest intake manifold you can put on besides the dual throttle body set up

Get the 09 tl intake manifold it will gain about 10 hp more than that manifold. it gained about 4 over a type s intake manifold that was ported and polished and had p2r plenums on it.

MilwaukeeDave

iTrader: (3)

I'll have to get all the parts and mock it up. I would rather mill the spacer down than cut my hood up.

Stephen00TL

Cool let me know how that works for you. I might have you do a second one for me

P-TownTL35

Get the 09 tl intake manifold it will gain about 10 hp more than that manifold. it gained about 4 over a type s intake manifold that was ported and polished and had p2r plenums on it.[/QUOTE]

well i work at a service station so i can get the intake manifold probably at a decent price, its the adapter stuff that im weary about, im an attendant not a mechanic so i will be having a mechanic do it for me. so i probably need to be specific so he is comfortable doing it. so i need a throttle body adapter? or what? i just want to make sure i have everything i need if im going to do this. now that i have my tranny paid off that i had to put in last winter i have money to spend. not a ton of money tho haha. thanks for the help

Stephen00TL

well i work at a service station so i can get the intake manifold probably at a decent price, its the adapter stuff that im weary about, im an attendant not a mechanic so i will be having a mechanic do it for me. so i probably need to be specific so he is comfortable doing it. so i need a throttle body adapter? or what? i just want to make sure i have everything i need if im going to do this. now that i have my tranny paid off that i had to put in last winter i have money to spend. not a ton of money tho haha. thanks for the help[/QUOTE]

Do you have headers? If not do that will gain you the most power for the money. P2R makes an adapter but I couldn't get it to work on my car and after trying for hours I finally gave up on it. Others were able to get it to work though

fsttyms1

Oops, forgot the link

http://www.powerrevracing.com/Default.asp

fsttyms1

Dont know what that guy is talking about, that isnt a 2g type-s manifold.

fsttyms1

You would probably be better off finding it used for even cheaper.

Also try this link and see if you can get it cheaper than this site.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...catdisplay.jsp

P-TownTL35

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org/...s=&view=normal

so what all would i need from this?? and yes i do have headers, injen sri,and a custom 2.5 inch exhaust fromt he cat back to the y pipe with magnaflows at the rear, and i already have a p2r tbs on my car right now.. so that will work?

fsttyms1

You will still need the tb adapter

Stephen00TL

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/09-tl-intake-manifold-ported-runners-parts-872147/

Post number 16. You also will need the intake manifold to lower intake manifold bolts and studs because te tl-p are shorter. You need 7, 95701-08065-08 and 2, 92900-080601B. Yes you need the throttle body adapter.

P-TownTL35

thanks man thats really helpful, wow the difference in runners on the tl to the tl-s.. i might have to do that as well... just curiosity how much does your car put down? my tl-p is even with a stock tl-s, even pulls on some..

Stephen00TL

I easily pull on any stock second gen. I have traction problems from a stop even with a 235/40/18 tire. I pull on my friends 3rd gen, all he has is an intake. I drove a 4g 3.7l 6spd and my car felt like it had more torque and pulled alot harder. Once I get my 09 intake manifold and custom 4" cai on I imagine it'll be insane. After 4,500 rpm the car pulls so hard.

Here is a recent video and I had a terrible start. I couldn't keep traction when I took off from 0. This is the best i recorded

KaotikPlaya

So, how many people with their manifolds port and polished did the butterfly delete? notice any gains or loss?

Stephen00TL

I just but my 09 manifold on last week and left the butterfly valve open I don't feel any loss of torque but I imagine if i had the butterfly functioning correctly it would give me more torque down low.

P-TownTL35

since i have the tl-p throttle body.. will the type s tb bolt up if i buy one? im really looking into this mod again.. since you need the type s tb to do this mod.

Stephen00TL

The tl-p and type s throttle bodies bolt up the same the only difference is the type s has a larger opening.

JDTL-S2002

I have my stock Type-S intake manifold set up now, thinking of doing the 09 mani swap. whats the deal with the butterfly valve? Can it be kept functional? Also is there any difference in the 09 base TL and the SH-AWD mani? Is it also bolt on if it is different?

This will probably be my next mod after I put my DC's on.
Also Stephen00TL do you have a write up on your 4" CAI?

Stephen00TL

You need to get the one off the shawd I beleive it is bigger at least where te throttle body connects. Some people said they had the butterfly working but others said there is no way to do it with the type s IMRC. I just left mine open. I don't have a write up for the 4" intake. I still need to finish it because I have some hoses not connected I've just been out of town alot lately. I clan show you a picture and all the materials I used if you want.

JDTL-S2002

Yeah man do that! I have a cheap little SRI right now that I've been running for about 2 years with a nice k&n filter but have been looking at piecing together my own...

Stephen00TL

Alright I will try to get it this weekend