Performance Chips
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Performance Chips
I've been looking at some of those performance enhancing chips online and I was wondering what is your guys' take on them? You know the little chips that mess with the ECU and claim to give your car up to 45 more hp and up to 8 more mpg and blah blah blah. Are there any out there that are actually good?
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But I went to O'Reilys once and asked if there was a chip for an '03 TL-S and the service rep said there was but it was like $250. Are those do anything at all like hp gain or mpg gain?
THERE ARE NO CHIPS for our cars.
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Chips do very little for NA cars; honda modes even more so. Most Honda engines are already very efficient at squeezing all of the power out.
Chips are useful and actually do generate great gains on the FI cars. On turbocharged AMG Mercs, Audis, and BMWs you can get enormous gains with proper tuning and remaps.
Chips are useful and actually do generate great gains on the FI cars. On turbocharged AMG Mercs, Audis, and BMWs you can get enormous gains with proper tuning and remaps.
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^you'll have to understand what "chips" are.
for our cars the only "chips" that they sell are boxes with resistors in them.
these resistors try and TRICK the ECU.
But our ECU's are to smart for these simple "tricks"
the other poster who talked about Forced Induction and other cars that gain from these so called chips are actually not chips at all.
THEY are TUNES.
computers that CHANGE the ENGINE parameters.
for example, Air/fuel ratios and TIMING.
if you can bump up timing, you'll get a more aggressive car.
So this is why "chips" never work with our car.
you will need a "tune" in order to change any kind of parameter.
for our cars the only "chips" that they sell are boxes with resistors in them.
these resistors try and TRICK the ECU.
But our ECU's are to smart for these simple "tricks"
the other poster who talked about Forced Induction and other cars that gain from these so called chips are actually not chips at all.
THEY are TUNES.
computers that CHANGE the ENGINE parameters.
for example, Air/fuel ratios and TIMING.
if you can bump up timing, you'll get a more aggressive car.
So this is why "chips" never work with our car.
you will need a "tune" in order to change any kind of parameter.
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^you'll have to understand what "chips" are.
for our cars the only "chips" that they sell are boxes with resistors in them.
these resistors try and TRICK the ECU.
But our ECU's are to smart for these simple "tricks"
the other poster who talked about Forced Induction and other cars that gain from these so called chips are actually not chips at all.
THEY are TUNES.
computers that CHANGE the ENGINE parameters.
for example, Air/fuel ratios and TIMING.
if you can bump up timing, you'll get a more aggressive car.
So this is why "chips" never work with our car.
you will need a "tune" in order to change any kind of parameter.
for our cars the only "chips" that they sell are boxes with resistors in them.
these resistors try and TRICK the ECU.
But our ECU's are to smart for these simple "tricks"
the other poster who talked about Forced Induction and other cars that gain from these so called chips are actually not chips at all.
THEY are TUNES.
computers that CHANGE the ENGINE parameters.
for example, Air/fuel ratios and TIMING.
if you can bump up timing, you'll get a more aggressive car.
So this is why "chips" never work with our car.
you will need a "tune" in order to change any kind of parameter.
there are half ass "tunes"
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
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They are doing it with a full standalone (by AEM). They are NOT tuning the stock ECU.
there are half ass "tunes"
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
agreee
there are half ass "tunes"
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
agreee
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there are half ass "tunes"
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
AEM FIC(fuel ignition controller)
half ass meaning; they can control certain things, but its not and end all solution.
and honestly, I dont know much about this. ALl I know is that they kinda work. But mostly F/I guys use this. This is probably what you are referring to slvrcrunch
on the 3rd gen TL side, we have came up with a solution.
the Mega Squirt 3.
We have a slightly different ECU setup.(i forgot if its the canbus or the other type)
but, anyway its a stand alone/piggy back computer. meaning; i hook it up to my stock ECU.
I have bought bought one. It is crazy expensive. $1225 and I still havent received it yet.
this product will allow me to change timing, while keeping my luxury items.
I will be using the ECU to control AFR and to set Vtec at 5k instead of the factory 47xx RPM.
its an expensive option for so little gains on an N/A setup.
a fully bolted on 3rd Gen TL, with this ECU gained 20hp/20tq
maybe in the future, I could get a re-ground cam.
but at this time, I'll just enjoy my fully bolted TL.
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I will be using the ECU to control AFR and to set Vtec at 5k instead of the factory 47xx RPM.
its an expensive option for so little gains on an N/A setup.
a fully bolted on 3rd Gen TL, with this ECU gained 20hp/20tq
maybe in the future, I could get a re-ground cam.
but at this time, I'll just enjoy my fully bolted TL.
I will be using the ECU to control AFR and to set Vtec at 5k instead of the factory 47xx RPM.
its an expensive option for so little gains on an N/A setup.
a fully bolted on 3rd Gen TL, with this ECU gained 20hp/20tq
maybe in the future, I could get a re-ground cam.
but at this time, I'll just enjoy my fully bolted TL.
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