gangstaTL03

What do you guys think about the "Venom 400 Computer Module?" It says it increases horsepower 25% within the 1000 to 5000 RPM range.

"You don't have to be a master mechanic to get a major horsepower increase from your vehicle. All you need is a half an hour, a set of hand tools, and Python's Venom 400 performance control module. These Venom 400s increase horsepower by 25 percent in the 1,000 to 5,000 rpm range and reduce delay when you mash down your throttle. And because they only kick on during increased engine load, they don't affect fuel economy under normal driving conditions. They'll work with preinstalled performance chips, have an off switch to preserve smog certification when not racing, and require only four electrical connections during installation."

http://www.prostreetonline.com/a/acu...ter-module.asp

sbuswell

try it out. doubt it works that well. 25% increase is a ridiculous claim though.

JCharged

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it is
get an AFC neo or Unichip.

fsttyms1

if your going to spend your money on something like that get the E-Manage and a dynow tune. You will get far better gains for your money (ass opposed to most likely losses with that)

NSXNEXT

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If you don't have any other mods, do not waste your money. A tune on a stock car will gain you little to nothing.

fsttyms1

gangstaTL03

What do you mean by any other mods?
bolt-on mods? or engine mods-
My car ain't stock, but it ain't extremely high performance either

Either way, what are the expected gains from an emanage tuning?

3-5 HP? 8-10 HP?

Edward'TLS

With the wide engine timing with this module, our weak tranny will bite the dust in no time !

bibledriver

Timnig, tranny, i don't get it.

Edward'TLS

This Venom Module intercepts the original signals, from various sensors, going into the factory PCM, and replaces them with a set of fake signals so as to fool the PCM to use a different air/fuel ratio and ignition timing maps, in order to provide more engine power.

In order to reduce tranny failures, Acura always replaces the original PCM with a reprogrammed one during tranny replacements. This reprogrammed PCM will retard engine timings to reduce engine power in order to protect the tranny clutches from failing.

Once someone starts mucking around with the factory timings and cheats the engine to produce even more power, all tranny protections are lost and the tranny won't last very long soon after.

Ken240sx

I wouldn't purchase anything from that company. Venom has been making horrible products for years. You can buy a set of injectors from them and get them flow tested and they usually don't even come close to the same flow rate as each other. Venom control modules are just one notch better than a resistor mod for an IAT or ECT. Better off just getting something like a wideband controller...safc, lc-1, etc.

LeeDan00

i wouldn't waste my time and money on that crap. just more headaches down the road.

like the rest said, save your money for other mods; they're results you can see and feel.

achen0122

so does that mean if we had a tranny replaced by the dealer then we lost hp?

Edward'TLS

Not necessarily, because power is only backed off in between gear shifts by the factory reprogrammed PCM. The last thing we want to do our weak trannies is to apply maximum power during shifting gears.

ChrisQ1980

Correct, anything else is a waste. Piggyback systems aren't the way to go.

Ken240sx

As far as I'm aware, an E-manage is a piggyback also...I'd just stay away from cheap companies like venom. Sometimes even an SAFC can screw with timing, it just depends how much you're actually changing your injector duty cycle. If you have the safc maxed out leaning out or richening up the injectors, your ecu will still think it is giving a certain amount of fuel, which it's not and if it needs to lean/richen the mixture more than what the safc is holding it at, then it will start changing timing in order to do so. Just be careful. I haven't looked into tuning for the Tl much, as I'm more of a 240 guy, but if there's people that will chip/rom-tune your ecu/give you a daughter board with a tune on it, that's a good way to go...but also have an safc or the like to fine-tune things. Some people in the 240 world like to try and tune their cars with just an safc and adjusting base timing with the distributor...that only works if you're goign for mild power outputs. Something above the 250whp range that doesn't cut it usually. With a higher performing engine like the TL, I wouldn't risk a half ass tune.

JDM Inspired

I hear that bro!!!

Pinoy76

has anyone used e-manage and seen real gains for the price?

Cory Watts

I was viewing this chip on eBay that I will post at the end. I'm obviously new to everything and not a typical car guy but I was looking over fuel chips for my car to save some mula as the gas prices rise. This claim on the ebay page looks outrageous but he has 8,000 buyers with a 98% rating. Tell me what you think of this chip and if it's a scam or not. Thanks!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/X-PER...#ht_9512wt_809

Rejckt

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Supercharger cost
$4200 +/-
Supercharger gain
40hp +/-
Supercharger MPG increase
-x%

Superchip cost
$23.95
Superchip gain
130hp
Superchip MPG increase
+40

Acura tl MPG : 25+/-
superchip + 40mpg
Acura tl = 15(tank) x 65 total = 975mpg = PRIUS ON STEROIDS...

Acural tl HP: 260
Superchip + 130hp
Acura tl ====== 390HP... HELL YEAH!


Okay... jk. The chip is a scam. I can't even get a half tank of gas for $24

Cory Watts

Yeah I mean it seems completely outrageous that it claims those things but I do not understand how it advertises that and he has so much good feedback. Just doesn't make sense.

Rejckt

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Because any idiot can use ebay and no one knows anything about cars.

Karanx7

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With placebo + ignorance, you could rule the world.