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Old 03-10-2010 | 11:11 PM
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need some help with lowering

im new to the whole world of lowering a car and ide like some help.

i have an 02 tl non type s pretty stock other then CAI.
i was wondering how low i can go on the stock rims without rubbing?

and ive been looking at th H&R springs that lower 1.75F 1.5R and was wondering about using them on stock shocks and struts, ive read its done i just want advice on the subject.

and if i go with the H&R's and can use my stock shocks and struts for now do i need anything other then the springs to lower it?


i dont have alot of money to play with but i want to lower my tl this spring so any ideas are a huge help.

thanks in advance and sorry for being a noob lol.
Old 03-10-2010 | 11:14 PM
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You wont rub with H&R and stock wheels. If your shocks are original i would look at replacing them the same time.
Old 03-10-2010 | 11:17 PM
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ide love to but i dont have the cash. do you think the H&R's are a good drop or should i go tiens and go 2" all around. i just want it to look the best without breaking the bank.

i plan on changing shocks and struts before next winter. do you think if i lowered it on stock shocks and struts it would make it threw the summer fine?
Old 03-10-2010 | 11:40 PM
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Yea man it should be fine, i mean the after market springs take away from the life of a stock strut but nothing significant.
Old 03-10-2010 | 11:45 PM
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ok so that knocks one question out lol.
do i need anything else besides the springs?
and what springs to go with i wanna go low but not to low to where im gonna smack driveways lol.
Old 03-11-2010 | 01:57 AM
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you would like to have a camber kit and get a alignment
Old 03-11-2010 | 09:55 AM
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link for a good priced camber kit pls?
what does a camber kit do?
Old 03-11-2010 | 11:49 AM
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I believe Ingallls is a good kit.
Camber is the angle of the wheel and hub, therefore when you lower with larger wheels, they wont always fit correctly....Therefore, with a camber kit the wheel sits angled it fits nice and snug...
Old 03-11-2010 | 02:48 PM
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depending on your mileage you will really want to change out your struts, 50-60k miles is general rule of thumb to change them out. since you have to take both the shock and the spring to lower the car, you might as well replace the strut. kyb gr-2 are good replacement struts and are cheap.
Old 03-11-2010 | 05:52 PM
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+2 I put springs on with existing oe shocks at 36,000 miles. Struts [at least one or two] were blown in 1,000 miles. I personally like h&r/kyb over eibach/tokico for ride comfort. You'll probably need a camber kit for the rear only.
Old 03-11-2010 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremychrist
ide love to but i dont have the cash. do you think the H&R's are a good drop or should i go tiens and go 2" all around. i just want it to look the best without breaking the bank.

i plan on changing shocks and struts before next winter. do you think if i lowered it on stock shocks and struts it would make it threw the summer fine?
Save up and do it right or you will spend more in the long run. If your shocks are original or have more than 50k you are playing with fire. You can get new kybs for 59 bucks each.
Old 03-11-2010 | 06:59 PM
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Replace shocks while changing the springs. Save money in the long run by doing it once. Got the KYB GR-2's for 126 for all four on Ebay. Best thing to do is search around.
Old 03-11-2010 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Unkn0VV17
Replace shocks while changing the springs. Save money in the long run by doing it once. Got the KYB GR-2's for 126 for all four on Ebay. Best thing to do is search around.
Damn good deal im going to look into those. thx
Old 03-12-2010 | 12:52 AM
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camber kit is so much money for front and back and i dont plan on huge rims im staying between 16-18". and i found gr-2's on ebay for 211. and springs are 198. are the cambers really needed cus 400 to lower my car 1.75F seems like alot of money for that almost 2"s lol.
Old 03-12-2010 | 01:14 AM
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forget it. thanks guys. cars not worth lowering if its gonna cost me over 500 dollars. ill just drive it a stock height till someone wants to sell me coilovers or something cus the price just isnt worth it. im 22 i dont make alot of money lol.
Old 03-12-2010 | 03:22 AM
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Start saving up, i had my lowering springs for over a year before i even lowered the car. I bought my Springs for 170 (Tein H-Tech) and my shocks (KYB GR-2) for 126 on Ebay. This was probably a couple years ago...not sure what the current prices they are selling these now. My car isn't as low as the H&R Sport, but I don't need a camber kit with the height i have. Best thing to do is be patient with car parts and search for good prices. The most I ever spent on my car is probably the rear lip and the TL-S wheels. Good luck with project TL.
Old 03-12-2010 | 10:38 AM
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^ Did you pay 126 for all four?
Old 03-12-2010 | 10:46 AM
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yeah man, save up. suspension isn't something you want to go cheap on. i know you didn't say anything about it, but someone might recommend you clip your springs. DO NOT DO IT! very unsafe. when you lower your car (at least with H&R sport) you will need a camber kit or you will not be aligned properly and will cause premature tire wear. you might want to look into getting new shocks if they are the OE shocks or if you've put over 50-60k miles on them. do a press test over each wheel. press down hard on the fender/quarter panel and release, if the car bounces up immediately and stops your struts are good, if it bounces up and keeps going up and down, your struts are busted.
Old 03-12-2010 | 06:11 PM
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dont rush it, just save up. The camber kit most likely isnt needed with the H&R sports. Just get an alignment after you drop it to help ensure your tires dont wear bad.
Old 03-12-2010 | 08:11 PM
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^ Did you pay 126 for all four?
Yes, all 4 shocks. Like i said before, i bought those couple years ago for that price. I'm not sure how much they are selling those on Ebay now a days. Search for the best deals.
Old 03-12-2010 | 08:23 PM
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KYBs are good replacements. what do you guys think about KYB-AGX?
Old 03-14-2010 | 04:14 AM
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so is a specif size kiyb struts and shocks i need to get if im droppin my car down 2 in and i have a 2000 acura tl i really need some help because i was just gonna drop it with the oem still .....
Old 03-14-2010 | 04:46 AM
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People instead of telling everyone, where u got your strusts and shocks from and how much u paid for them how bout u guys just put up the link so everyone can look up and buy .... thanks
Old 03-14-2010 | 05:17 AM
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Where's the fun in that?
Old 03-14-2010 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by silvernight
People instead of telling everyone, where u got your strusts and shocks from and how much u paid for them how bout u guys just put up the link so everyone can look up and buy .... thanks
Click Here
Old 03-14-2010 | 11:12 PM
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^omg hahahahaha that was the best ive ever seen. its google for noobs.
Old 03-15-2010 | 01:53 PM
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lmao, nice link assclown.
Old 03-15-2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by silvernight
People instead of telling everyone, where u got your strusts and shocks from and how much u paid for them how bout u guys just put up the link so everyone can look up and buy .... thanks
Go to our black market, then to the sponsored sales and buy from one of our vendors
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