Originally Posted by friesm2000

don't get me wrong snow tires will get you through allot more then all seasons, and studded ones through ice, but i think it is kinda hard for people to justify a second set of tires (let alone storing them, but i know where our tires are done, they offer tire storage for a price though [i don't know the amount though]), it's hard enough to just sell them new tires in the first place (allot of times it has to be completely bald, not just the wear bars missing)
also people already have enough complainants about the tire noise on all seasons, so try winter tires then

also studs are horrible for the roads themselves, and we already got shitty enough roads here (and thin when compared to say Utah's, you can actually hear a difference from the tire drown/noise when you cross state borders [ours roads are much higher pitched for noise wise)
and you should see the state highway that i drive on to work everyday, some massive tires ruts, hard to tell, but i would say a good 1" or so deep, and this is not some highway in the boonies either, it's 4 lanes total, with it being the main highway into town from denver (basically if you are coming anywhere from near denver you travel on that highway)

Originally Posted by fsttyms1

More miss conception. My snow tires are quieter than any all season i have had.

You may have the mentality that "insurance" will fix or replace the car but its people with this mentality i worry about hitting and killing my family when situations could be avoided with snow tires. I dont want to hear "oh then you have to store them" Storing 4 tires for most is very easy. (buy them thru many car dealers and they store them for you)

I find it very interesting that in todays society where every one demands top safety with every thing from coffee makers, baby cribs to cars that they are so missinformed and dont want to take the time to have safe tires and have the mentality that "oh my all seasons get me through snow just fine"

Originally Posted by friesm2000

you also have to compare the same quality of tire and not some cheapo's all seasons compared to some really nice snow one's, just to be fair for them (with the same amount of wear also, cause that effect's noise also)

and i proably should have put that insurance thing in red

and car dealers storing tires, they also charge a preminuim for those tires in the first place, so they need to do something extra, and i meant if you want to store them yourself (like a apartment, but a storage unit is easy enough, but still an added expense for most, that they don't want to pay), but yeah easy enough to pay someone to store them for you though

and don't get me wrong with how coffee places have to have caution:hot on cups of coffee, people shold know that already, but this is america afterall , we should not be so sue happy especially for stupid shit at that

Originally Posted by friesm2000

never knew what tire you had before ,


but as said wear on the tire also affects the noise levels too, so if they were worn out, be moiser then when new

Originally Posted by thinhthan

well from what i think and been i think traction controls helps somewhat. it might not help muich but it does

Originally Posted by fsttyms1

I practice what i preach (i was a little late on ordering them this year but the new ones have been ordered) and i have been having fun the past few days with them (as seen by the center that is more worn) and this tire is still quite and doesnt make much road noise, is smooth and doesnt slap the expansion joints. These in this state still out brake typical all season tires.

Originally Posted by friesm2000

yeah not the best system, but better then nothing, and it's not like on some cars were you can't even disable it easily, hell there is a switch right there


tires look to be over inflated by the looks of it

Originally Posted by fsttyms1

Nope, not over inflated, but the motor has no problem spinning them in 2nd and quite often 3rd causing the center to wear out faster.

Originally Posted by friesm2000

Originally Posted by Rajca

the power of 6spd, gotta love it

Originally Posted by Rajca

u cannot use ur old harness. type s has imrc, vsa instead of the tl-p's traction control.
u can use ur trans, unless its the 4spd one.
i have an engine bay harness from an 03 cl type s, its the engine and trans harness.

Originally Posted by Rajca

now add a turbo and direct port nitrous and hold on tight

Originally Posted by friesm2000

and you can always build the auto to handle that power too

Originally Posted by Rajca

not worth it. spend teh 1000-1500 for a trans and ecu/harness and call it a day, plus the other small sensors.

Originally Posted by Rajca

the trans will bolt up. but what ecu will u be using?

Originally Posted by shiem89

You can always use the current ecu, you'd still feel all of that extra power either way.

Originally Posted by Rajca

now add a turbo and direct port nitrous and hold on tight

Originally Posted by Rajca

u will be in limp mode.i know a member that used his j32a1 with a 6spd and used the ecu that came with the car (j32a1) and only could rev to 5k. same thing will happen.

Originally Posted by shiem89

It won't go into limp mode if the car remains an auto

Originally Posted by phee

where are you getting this information?

Originally Posted by reese8789

Can anyone tell me what the exact differences are between the 02-03 tl-p trans and the type-s trans ? Someone told me they were alot different and that when I did the type s swap with tl-p trans that the trans wont last also the torque converter is different.